CapuchinSeven wrote: »Stealth is to protect us when we're in combat. Stealth is to increase our damage when we're in combat.
Stealth is not for either of these things, considering it cannot be used once combat has been initiated.
Please read the title of a thread before posting. Every person in this thread that uses the word stealth is referring to invisibility from Shadow Disguise, everyone else managed to work that out.Ah I give up, feel free to kill all those mobs, ill sneak past them and get 2 more quests completed while you do that.
One more time. It's broken. It's breaking from our own dots, it's breaking in PVP at random, it's breaking in PVP if a group member is in combat and you're not. It's broken. These are confirmed by ZOS.
Moving past 20 mobs to "get 2 more quests completed" and skipping content does not mean that it's not broken. It does not change anything stated above. Your single "massive benefit" does not make the ability not broken.
There is a reason everyone in the thread is auguring with you, you're pushing a single point that really ultimately doesn't have anything to do with what's being said.
Your single point does not override every other circumstance that stops it from working.
Please engage everything you have and try to understand that. No body cares that you're avoiding content by walking past VR mobs because everything else about it is broken. Good luck "walking past mobs" in PVP or group dungeons. I'm sure everyone will be just thrilled by you taking up a raid spot.
It does not start out being about PVP at all.
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Also someone that can't see the utility of stealth to avoid combat, is not so one I would want in my raid groups ever, they clearly lack any imagination or ability to think on their feet.
Point 1 I agree with, it should actually function properlyPrince_Edward wrote: »I'm sure all NB's will agree that this is one of our signature skills. In more cases than not, this is how we play. Especially in PVE. You go in hidden or you Ambush, execute the target, then vanish. But there are a few things wrong with this skill, that I'm sure you all have noticed as well.Your invisibility cloak has a hole
Sometimes, you'll notice how targets ignore your shadowform invisibility and will still attack you. Or they stand around not attacking, but will follow your movements as if they can see you, and will hit you the moment you become visible again.Oh, there you are...
You're visible again as soon as you materialize. Regardless of your orientation to the targets line of sight.They only take it from behind...
Your damage from the front, while stealthed, doesn't seem to be as much as hitting the target with the same attack while stealthed from their rear.
I would suggest just a few things, and I have submitted a ticket for this already.
1. Invisible means invisible. I shouldn't get hit by anything other than a dot or aoe, and it shouldn't make me break stealth. I only get it for 2.5 seconds anyway...
2. I shouldn't be getting hit the moment the materialization animations starts. When I get knocked to the ground before the shadows around me dissipate, I think that's a little much...
3. Activating the ability should make you auto-crouch, and be able to maintain a hidden status as long as you're not in the targets line of sight and within their detection range.
4. Damage to target shouldn't matter based on orientation while stealthed. You're invisible...
Your thoughts or suggestions?
leovuoeb17_ESO wrote: »
Dark Cloak does remove DoTs. What DoTs are you referring to? I've yet to see a DoT my cloak did not remove.ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »
General: Currently, a Nightblade’s own residual outgoing damage-over-time ticks break his or her invisibility. This is not intended, and will be fixed in a future patch.
Dark Cloak (Shadow Cloak morph): Dark Cloak is not currently removing damage-over-time (DoT) debuffs as it should be. We’re currently investigating this issue to determine which DoTs are not being removed by Dark Cloak.
From here: http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/100627/nightblade-update/p1leovuoeb17_ESO wrote: »And yes, of course you will be taken out of stealth if you get AoE. It's by design, like it or not.
Are we talking about stealth or invisibility here? I would really like to know what you mean by "by design".