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I do think it kind of sucks that they suspended the account first, before investigating. In the real world, they investigate first. And people at banks are trained to never reveal to a customer if they have concerns, exactly what tipped off those concerns, or whether the bank and/or authorities are investigating.
The more I think about this, the more it sounds like a post from a few days ago about the guy’s dad whose account got suspended because of a chargeback.
If one of the sellers of the crowns did a chargeback related to those crowns, or if they were using a stolen credit card and the charge was reversed for fraud, zos would suspend the affected accounts. Since they can’t recoup the spent crowns, they suspend the accounts that benefitted from them. Do you stay in contact with the players you bought crowns from? Did any of their accounts recently get suspended?
Kalik_Gold wrote: »
- 18 x 4,600g x 7 = 579,600 gold per week
- Imperial race x 18 x 4,646g x 7 = 585,396 gold per week.
- Imperial race w. ESO plus x 18 x 5,111g x 7 = 643,986 gold per week.
2,000,000 - 643,986 = 1,356,014 gold from gold tempers, rosin, master writs etc???
You get that much sellable items? lucky RNG
PandaPalace wrote: »Kalik_Gold wrote: »
- 18 x 4,600g x 7 = 579,600 gold per week
- Imperial race x 18 x 4,646g x 7 = 585,396 gold per week.
- Imperial race w. ESO plus x 18 x 5,111g x 7 = 643,986 gold per week.
2,000,000 - 643,986 = 1,356,014 gold from gold tempers, rosin, master writs etc???
You get that much sellable items? lucky RNG
Is that 4600g with lvl 1 craft skills or does it have to be max lvl crafting?
It's about 35k a week per toon for daily writs ...... where does the 2 million come in? Sorry for derail, genuinely curious.
Selling the gold/purple upgrade mats, master writs, intricates/recipes and other things you get doing the writs, I make a bit over a million in sales in addition to the gold I get from doing the writs themselves, then again I don't sell absolutely everything. Could probably get close to the 2 million mark if I bothered to do my surveys each week and sell the raw mats.
Dusk_Coven wrote: »Have you checked your Junk mail folder for an email from ZOS? Everyone who complains about a ban actually had or eventually found an email with at least a vague explanation.
Salvas_Aren wrote: »VaranisArano wrote: »They aren't likely to explain the limits on gifting that let them flag accounts for the same reason ZOS doesn't explain their discipline policies: if you tell people exactly where the line is drawn, some people are going to skate right up to the line. Its much easier to okay a few legitimate new accounts after the fact than open up the floodgates for bots.
There are always people like that, whether its a sibling waving their hand right in front of your face going "I'm not touching you!" or a student going "Three strikes and I'm out? Well, Then I'm gonna make strikes 1 and 2 really good ones!"
Well, that there is even such a thing as crown gift limits is disturbing, no?
I mean, getting gifts by themselves is not a bad or forbidden thing, imagine, you have an old account full of ESO+ crowns and gift to your own alt account and get banned, even that seems possible now.
Salvas_Aren wrote: »Well, that there is even such a thing as crown gift limits is disturbing, no?
I mean, getting gifts by themselves is not a bad or forbidden thing, imagine, you have an old account full of ESO+ crowns and gift to your own alt account and get banned, even that seems possible now.
I don't think it is the gifting. I think it is the gold moving around that attracted attention.
I paid 8,000,000 gold to get in vBRP for my first run and earn a perfected BRP lightning staff (wild impulse). I then used the staff (in conjunction with Malacath's Band, Valkyn's monster set, and Vicious Death) to earn "The Merciless" achievement. The spontaneous combustion was a sight to behold.
So, I don't think that it's the gold. I've tossed around millions at a time. I've never heard of that many crowns gifted in a 24 hour period though. Maybe I stumbled upon a way to break the game.
Any guesses on what the crown limit is before you get banned?
From ZOS's point of view, a new account with no real play time is suddenly moving millions in gold and crown gifts. You should just as well park an icecream truck outside a middle school. Sure you might being selling icecream, but any cop in the area should also knock on your door. Give time for the ticket and investigation to do its thing.
BenevolentBowd wrote: »Kalik_Gold wrote: »
- 18 x 4,600g x 7 = 579,600 gold per week
- Imperial race x 18 x 4,646g x 7 = 585,396 gold per week.
- Imperial race w. ESO plus x 18 x 5,111g x 7 = 643,986 gold per week.
2,000,000 - 643,986 = 1,356,014 gold from gold tempers, rosin, master writs etc???
You get that much sellable items? lucky RNG
If you include selling all the intricate and ornate items, you usually earn over 5k per CP character. If you obtain various crafting achievements and complete motif chapters, you can increase your drop rate for sealed writs. You can sell the intricates for much more on the traders if you have the slots available.
Also, jewelry crafting writ rewards have a scaling upgrade mat drop rate so higher tiers provide higher quantities of gold and purple upgrade mats.
If you collect your surveys, you can refine for lots of improvement items. You can then sell the refine mats or use them to do sealed writs and use the vouchers to sell items like attunable crafting stations for lots of gold.
If you use lazywritcrafter, you can use the /outputwritstats command to see what your drop rates are based on the writs you have done. Unless, you do so many writs like me that you break the report.
Well, I figured it out.
I just created a "new account" and bought some crowns to avoid the hassle. Who knows when this will be resolved.
Anyway, when starting my first toon with the "new account", I noticed that I received 3 messages and clicked the chat-bubble icon to see what they were. One of the messages said ...... "crown gifting is not enabled for the first 30 days". So, it appears that I found a way to break the game by having the crowns gifted to my level 3 toon directly (the people gifting to me said that they got "account not found" when trying to gift directly to my account instead of the toon).
Are all accounts banned from crown gifting for the first 30 days? Does it only apply if the accounts appear to come from the same address, computer, etc.?
My "new account" is stocked with enough crowns to get what I want. I only did the gifting-thing to avoid feeling like I was "paying to win". I felt that using gold that I earned through my main account, to start a new account, to make more gold is a "fair" way to play the game. A bit more of a challenge than just throwing around $.
Hopefully, those of you wishing to play additional accounts can learn from experience. No gifting for 30 days.
Taleof2Cities wrote: »We don't have all the details from your ticket, @Stanko ... certainly not the details that ZOS had when they did their review.
This is why account suspensions aren't discussed in the forums.
Moloch1514 wrote: »Wow that is a sad conclusion to this story. @ZOS_BillE @ZOS_GinaBruno this is bogus and looks poor upon the CS at ZOS. Penalizing someone actually wanting to play this game is a weird way to treat customers!
Moloch1514 wrote: »Wow that is a sad conclusion to this story. @ZOS_BillE @ZOS_GinaBruno this is bogus and looks poor upon the CS at ZOS. Penalizing someone actually wanting to play this game is a weird way to treat customers!
I mean no disrespect to the OP, and I appreciate the plight of an innocent unjustly caught in the mindless machine of justice, but how do we really know that the OP is innocent?
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