I mean, we are comparing mains right? I also assume we are comparing best setup, while I don't get close to 90k, I do comfortably sit above 80k, even using pfg and not siroria. But I usually parse to compare setups and skills... Or on the search of that one parse without lag.

BeamsForDemacia wrote: »

i guess u mean parses on the iron/raid dummy without thrassian but that should be made clear

No Therassian for me tyvm nor b4b either. I don't even own Greymoor.

Also I also want to add that trial dummy is there to compare to trials not dungeons, you get much more support in trials (especially compared to the average pug, even in vet dlc you sometimes don't even have major breach with 2 mag dds in group).

Then again, when boss is stationary, it is not rare to see over 200k dps in premade group.

This patch on my mDK on a trial dummy, I am right around 90k on average, with parses that flirt with 95k when I don't have any issues (either my fingers or performance) and decent crit RNG. My Stamplar was right around 95k last patch, but havent parsed with him at all this patch. My guild required a 90k parse to be top tier this patch, which I got on launch day pretty fast after making a few minor adjustments. I didnt realize for like an hour that Vamp increased your ulti cost, so I kept messing up and trying to cast an ult too soon. Haha

80k is really not hard to achieve on a lot of classes, assuming you have BIS gear, and a decent LA/Second ratio (.8-.85). If you want to break 90k, you need a LA ratio north of .9 on most classes in the current meta from my experience, and your rotation needs to be pretty much error free. The difference between 80-90k is much bigger than the difference between 70-80k.

Havent tried parsing with stranglers. I almost made a batch of 20 3 mil dummies for my house, you know, for science, but then I read the PTS patch notes...

This is of course, all on a trial dummy, which is the most objective thing to discuss. Real world fights are going to be all over the map. There are real world boss fights that 40-50k is probably all you can expect, and their are fights like the mage HM where you can do total fight DPS of like 150k. In a good group on your stack and burn bosses, you shouldnt be more than 5-10k off your trial dummy parse.

W0lf_z13 wrote: »

Oreyn_Bearclaw wrote: »

This patch on my mDK on a trial dummy, I am right around 90k on average, with parses that flirt with 95k when I don't have any issues (either my fingers or performance) and decent crit RNG. My Stamplar was right around 95k last patch, but havent parsed with him at all this patch. My guild required a 90k parse to be top tier this patch, which I got on launch day pretty fast after making a few minor adjustments. I didnt realize for like an hour that Vamp increased your ulti cost, so I kept messing up and trying to cast an ult too soon. Haha

80k is really not hard to achieve on a lot of classes, assuming you have BIS gear, and a decent LA/Second ratio (.8-.85). If you want to break 90k, you need a LA ratio north of .9 on most classes in the current meta from my experience, and your rotation needs to be pretty much error free. The difference between 80-90k is much bigger than the difference between 70-80k.

Havent tried parsing with stranglers. I almost made a batch of 20 3 mil dummies for my house, you know, for science, but then I read the PTS patch notes...

been trying to hit 90k+ on my mdk but i just cant seem to break from the 86k mark ( other than the 1 time i hit 88k )

@W0lf_z13

First question would be, what is your LA/Sec Ratio. The difference between 86-90k could be as simple as the pace of your rotation. This patch, it was nothing groundbreaking. Only real changes from last patch were to drop VAS staff for 5 piece siroria front bar (paired with elf bane), using the vamp spammable, and I did go to Maw for the parse, but I also think Zaan and ilambris will be with in a few hundred DPS. Really like ilambris in actual content this patch on mDK (if running elf bane). I also stopped bash canceling, because its more trouble than its worth now (truthfully, I think it's always been more trouble than its worth).

Another thing that is helpful, not quite sure how you handle ultimates, but the best I have found is to go Standard, Meteor, Meteor, and Standard (which you hold until execute). 3 bloodthirsty is also important if trying to min/max a parse. That is more DPS than 3 standards, which is what you can also do, but the difference is a couple K. Having a standard for execute really helps when paired with bloodthirsty.

My rotation is pretty straight forward. Talons is the centerpiece. Talons, 8 skills, talons , 8 skills. I always cast Elemental blockade, trap, embers and engulfing in order (back bar). I opt for blockade over unstable wall. The later is more damage, but makes the rotation more complicated. I also manage eruption dynamical on the back bar. On the front bar, I manage FOO and Scalding Rune, dynamically (never recast FOO early). I opt for inner light over orbs, because it gave me sustain issues on a dummy. I do usually run orbs in actual content. Talons is always every ninth skill, otherwise, i am using the vamp spam. No real changes in execute, other than to perhaps get a little spammy right at the end. No reason to cast a DOT that wont run its full course. I am able to sustain this with just max magic food (no regen), but the purple bi-stat food (health magic)is what I use in actual content. Truthfully, very little difference between the two. You shouldnt need regen food.

I honestly don't know how people get 50 plus. I can't get above 15k on a good day