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I AM SO TIRED OF BEING PUT ON A TEAM SHORT A PLAYER IN BATTLEGROUNDS!!!!! FUMING!!!
pauld1_ESO
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Seriously ZOS, why on Earth is this so hard to fix? You tout "MILLIONS" of players in this game and queues for battlegrounds are as close to instant as you can get. Why on Earth is it so hard for you to populate the teams with 4 players each EVERY match??? I would say 99% of the time one team is short a player, and holy crap half the time I AM ON THAT TEAM.
FIX THIS FOR ONCE.
FIX THIS FOR ONCE.
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relentless_turnip✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭This doesn't bother anywhere near as the desyncs and delays we have had since u25.
I have enjoyed more 1 v 8 with buttons that make it possible to survive. Than being beaten by someone pressing light attack because cc break and vigor aren't doing anything. Sometimes I roll dodge away and I can't count to 10 before my skills stop being greyed out.
There is a lot to fix for sure, but start with basic controls functioning IMO.6 -
SidraWillowsky✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭relentless_turnip wrote: »This doesn't bother anywhere near as the desyncs and delays we have had since u25.
I have enjoyed more 1 v 8 with buttons that make it possible to survive. Than being beaten by someone pressing light attack because cc break and vigor aren't doing anything. Sometimes I roll dodge away and I can't count to 10 before my skills stop being greyed out.
There is a lot to fix for sure, but start with basic controls functioning IMO.
Allowing BG matches to start with fewer than four people on a team = more people get fed up and quit playing BGs = fewer PvPers = PvP issues even further down on ZOS's list of priorities since the percentage of players who PvP is getting smaller.
I will not touch BGs after being put into matches with teams of three or even two and having to suffer through 15 minutes of a match where we don't have a shot at coming in anything but third.1 -
mairwen85✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭pauld1_ESO wrote: »Seriously ZOS, why on Earth is this so hard to fix? You tout "MILLIONS" of players in this game and queues for battlegrounds are as close to instant as you can get. Why on Earth is it so hard for you to populate the teams with 4 players each EVERY match??? I would say 99% of the time one team is short a player, and holy crap half the time I AM ON THAT TEAM.
FIX THIS FOR ONCE.
Well that pretty much adds up. If 99% of the time 1 team is a man down, there are 3 teams, you have ~66% chance of a full team. But I think its worse than that. I've seen matches where one team has 3, another has 2, and the third is full. I've even seen 1 man starts with a player backfilled just before the end. It's borked beyond belief.
Every damn match yesterday, either 2 or 3 players.
Surely it shouldn't even be possible? Especially considering that solo queues are supposedly so popular now. It's always been a problem, even when we could group queue, but it is much more prevalent since the change.
Edited by mairwen85 on July 4, 2020 3:43PM0 -
redgreensunset✭✭✭✭✭
✭Don't think I've played a single match since MYM started where at least one team was one player short. It's the standard these days. Hey maybe they should just make the teams 3v3v3 since that seems to be what they're going for.3 -
heaven13✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭It really is incredibly frustrating. Have even had some start with 4v4v2.
On top of the matches starting short, you get the sore losers who, if they aren't top score in the first 15 seconds of the match, they dip out screwing over the rest of their team. When you're already short a man to begin with, this can have a horrible cascading effect where you MIGHT get a fill (often times don't) and IF you get a fill, they leave as soon as they get in and see the horribly off-balanced match. I wish people would have a little integrity and at least try. Particularly during MYM when losing is worth more AP than first place in non-event games. Once I hit accept, I'm in the game, win or lose, even if I get put in a match that's 5 minutes in and my team has 0 points.PC/NAMountain God | Leave No Bone Unbroken | Apex Predator | Pure Lunacy | Depths Defier | No Rest for the Wicked | In Defiance of DeathMeet my characters :
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BlueRaven✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭It's funny. So I have not been in a BG since Morrowind. Why? Well because I am bad at PvP AND I don't particularly like it very much.
I went in to get the holiday achievement solely because I wanted access to the furnishing items that the achievement opened up for me.
I just needed one team win, it took me over 20 attempts, and hated each one.
Now they put antiquity leads that only drop from the BG daily quest and I was considering going in again. With me on your team you might as well be down a person to start with, and if we got on a person short team you might as well be down by 2.
But that is the way BGs are I guess.4 -
Dracane✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭If you implement matchmaking, then make it fair or just stop.
Although Zenimax is not to blame for people that decide to quit immediately or that crash right away.Auri-El is my lord,
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bearbelly✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭So, I should change my mind and NOT get involved with BGs?
Well, alrighty, then.
I guess I don't really NEED that sweet Pit Daemon's Skull furnishing...0 -
Anotherone773✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭pauld1_ESO wrote: »Seriously ZOS, why on Earth is this so hard to fix? You tout "MILLIONS" of players in this game and queues for battlegrounds are as close to instant as you can get. Why on Earth is it so hard for you to populate the teams with 4 players each EVERY match??? I would say 99% of the time one team is short a player, and holy crap half the time I AM ON THAT TEAM.
FIX THIS FOR ONCE.
If they cant fill all 3 teams with 4 players i would be ok with 3v3v3. Either last night or the night before i was basically playing AUS TZ BG2 and got in a BG that had 4v2v2....WHAT? The match was half over time wise before we got full teams. luckily the team of 4 wasnt great so they didnt clean house right away though they did still win in a deathmatch. Had it been 4v4v4 from the start they would have likely came in last.1 -
Anotherone773✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭It's funny. So I have not been in a BG since Morrowind. Why? Well because I am bad at PvP AND I don't particularly like it very much.
I went in to get the holiday achievement solely because I wanted access to the furnishing items that the achievement opened up for me.
I just needed one team win, it took me over 20 attempts, and hated each one.
Now they put antiquity leads that only drop from the BG daily quest and I was considering going in again. With me on your team you might as well be down a person to start with, and if we got on a person short team you might as well be down by 2.
But that is the way BGs are I guess.
You can do healing in BGs as well. thats always appreciated by other team members especially if they excel at killing. Also just do a spammable over and over. That is what every seems to be doing at the moment. BGs are actually easier outside of MYM than in it. I think i get killed more by spammables and monster set procs than i do players that know what they are doing.
For the quests, get the medals one. If you dont get the medals drop it and try again until you do. You can also do the 5 matches one. I dont recommend the 3 wins.
Medals quest can be done in 1-2 BGs. Remember its about the objective not killing people. Less than 30 minutes for this one
Match quest is 5 battlegrounds so your looking at an hour roughly.
Wins can be anything from 30 minutes ( 3 wins in a row) to hours and hours if you get unlucky.
These quest were not well thought out at all. They all pay the same but have drastically different time requirements.6 -
Everest_Lionheart✭✭✭✭✭
✭Anotherone773 wrote: »It's funny. So I have not been in a BG since Morrowind. Why? Well because I am bad at PvP AND I don't particularly like it very much.
I went in to get the holiday achievement solely because I wanted access to the furnishing items that the achievement opened up for me.
I just needed one team win, it took me over 20 attempts, and hated each one.
Now they put antiquity leads that only drop from the BG daily quest and I was considering going in again. With me on your team you might as well be down a person to start with, and if we got on a person short team you might as well be down by 2.
But that is the way BGs are I guess.
You can do healing in BGs as well. thats always appreciated by other team members especially if they excel at killing. Also just do a spammable over and over. That is what every seems to be doing at the moment. BGs are actually easier outside of MYM than in it. I think i get killed more by spammables and monster set procs than i do players that know what they are doing.
For the quests, get the medals one. If you dont get the medals drop it and try again until you do. You can also do the 5 matches one. I dont recommend the 3 wins.
Medals quest can be done in 1-2 BGs. Remember its about the objective not killing people. Less than 30 minutes for this one
Match quest is 5 battlegrounds so your looking at an hour roughly.
Wins can be anything from 30 minutes ( 3 wins in a row) to hours and hours if you get unlucky.
These quest were not well thought out at all. They all pay the same but have drastically different time requirements.
That’s the trick. I only take the medals quest myself and for the same reason. I usually finish in one shot because some of the games are crazy easy to get enough points with minimum actual fighting. It’s never taken more than 2bgs matches to finish that daily and I’m talking sometimes with 3/8 K/D ratio. I’m not particularly good and always seem to be on a team that freelances or doesn’t understand the games anyway like going for straight kills in crazy king or not defending the ball in chaosball. Those are two simple enough games where your teammates can do whatever and you can nab some easy points while the other two teams wreck one another.0 -
MurderMostFoul✭✭✭✭✭
✭Starting 1 down is annoying, but not insurmountable. Unfortunately, I've learned to live with the 4v4v3 start.
Its the 4v4v2s I can't abide by.“There is nothing either good or bad, but thinking makes it so.”2 -
AcadianPaladin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Hey! What do you have against teams of short players? Got something against Bosmer?
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Hotdog_23✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭No real knowledge but I figure the reason games start without a full 12 is some people decline the offer to accept the match for whatever reason. The game goes ahead and puts everyone in the match anyway which is why sometimes I see waiting for players (5 minutes) instead of match starting in 45 seconds.
Also in my world of thinking the reason some games never get filled is no one is in queue that would allow the MMR to be fairly equal either they are to high or to low so the game just does not fill it since it does not match their presets standards for play.
Be safe and have fun
AcadianPaladin wrote: »Hey! What do you have against teams of short players? Got something against Bosmer?
Randy Newman Short People
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=nkMD8UzNAmI&feature=emb_logo0 -
redgreensunset✭✭✭✭✭
✭No real knowledge but I figure the reason games start without a full 12 is some people decline the offer to accept the match for whatever reason. The game goes ahead and puts everyone in the match anyway which is why sometimes I see waiting for players (5 minutes) instead of match starting in 45 seconds.
Also in my world of thinking the reason some games never get filled is no one is in queue that would allow the MMR to be fairly equal either they are to high or to low so the game just does not fill it since it does not match their presets standards for play.
Be safe and have funAcadianPaladin wrote: »Hey! What do you have against teams of short players? Got something against Bosmer?
Randy Newman Short People
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=nkMD8UzNAmI&feature=emb_logo
Then it cpuld work like the dungeon finder where if one person declienes the queue resets but with the people whp had the sprung queue at thw front.
Also just had a lovely 4v2v1. That was a ton of fun /s1 -
WastedJoker✭✭✭The fact it happens even when BG is as busy as it's ever been is pretty damning, to be honest.
It's even more frustrating when you're queueing for BG for a long time and then you get added to a shorthanded group.
Let me guess, someone stole your sweetroll!2 -
Coatmagic✭✭✭✭✭
✭Only been doing land grabs and having no probs with unbalanced teams and been in every day all day getting alts skills to 6...
Guildy having these unbalanced team number issues every single day but only doing deathmatches...
Weird, huh?
Wondering if people are not bothering to que for specific thing, then just bailing when they get one they don't want and that is causing the issue...?
Edited by Coatmagic on July 5, 2020 11:55AM0 -
Grandchamp1989✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I've learned my lesson.
If they put me in a handicap match 3v4v4 I leave. Chances of you winning it is... yeah.1 -
WastedJoker✭✭✭I couldn't find the edit button because I'm as dumb as this problem
Edited by WastedJoker on July 5, 2020 6:11PM
Let me guess, someone stole your sweetroll!0 -
heaven13✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Only been doing land grabs and having no probs with unbalanced teams and been in every day all day getting alts skills to 6...
Guildy having these unbalanced team number issues every single day but only doing deathmatches...
Weird, huh?
Wondering if people are not bothering to que for specific thing, then just bailing when they get one they don't want and that is causing the issue...?
I queue for random. Every time. The 4v4v2 I played was Chaos Ball.Grandchamp1989 wrote: »I've learned my lesson.
If they put me in a handicap match 3v4v4 I leave. Chances of you winning it is... yeah.
Can you maybe not screw over the other people on your team? You leave because your team is down 1 which leaves them down 2. Again, a reminder: losing a BG is still 14-15k AP during MYM. Which is more than winning a BG when MYM is not occurring. And it's guaranteed AP gain for at most a 15 minute time commitment, unlike Cyro where you can lose your tick if you fail to capture/defend.
Edited by heaven13 on July 5, 2020 6:04PMPC/NAMountain God | Leave No Bone Unbroken | Apex Predator | Pure Lunacy | Depths Defier | No Rest for the Wicked | In Defiance of DeathMeet my characters :
Defanged the Devourer | Nature's Wrath | Relentless Raider | True Genius | Bane of Thorns | Subterranean Smasher | Ardent Bibliophile
vAA HM | vHRC HM | vSO HM | vDSA | vMoL HM | vHoF HM | vAS+2 | vCR+2 | vBRP | vSS HM | vKA | vRGIT DOESN'T MATTER BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL THE SAME NOW, THANKS ZOS1 -
Ri_Khan✭✭✭✭✭
✭It's hilarious this is still an issue. I gave up trying to play BG's at least a year ago due to the same bs.1 -
Sargesgaming✭✭✭Probably would be better if people could get in there as a group I would say, but you know lets complain about it being a group game then complain when we dont have a group to play in SMH2
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TineaCruris✭✭✭✭✭I've decided to fill out a help ticket every time my team gets shorted players. Maybe they don't know how bad the problem is, so we have to let them know.3
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Malthorne✭✭✭✭✭
✭TineaCruris wrote: »I've decided to fill out a help ticket every time my team gets shorted players. Maybe they don't know how bad the problem is, so we have to let them know.
They know. It’s been an issue since 2017. They either don’t care enough to fix it or don’t know how.3 -
Vanagrand✭✭✭Sargesgaming wrote: »Probably would be better if people could get in there as a group I would say, but you know lets complain about it being a group game then complain when we dont have a group to play in SMH
Premades ruined the bgs. Separate queue for groups, *** yeah! Same as solo queuers, damm no.1
