A Server Just For Cheaters

Aurrynthea_Drake · June 2020

I am fed up of dealing with cheaters in Cyrodil - you know the ones, they are OBVIOUSLY using macros in combat & exploiting bugs ruthlessly

Because Zos cares so little about the law abiding players experience in game & only care about the money - I have a suggestion: Once someone is caught cheating just throw them onto a server with other cheaters. If they want to cheat then let them play with others who have as little regard for playing fair. They can cheat to their hearts content but then they can't cry foul when another cheater out cheats them!

Just a thought.

JamieAubrey · June 2020

Then it would just be DC capping the map with nothing to do

Aurrynthea_Drake · June 2020

JamieAubrey wrote: »

Then it would just be DC capping the map with nothing to do

But then wouldn't it be fun to read them crying on the forums about how bad the cheating has gotten for a change instead of them trolling us with "get gud"?

Tammany · June 2020

I've seen a lot of blues self ressurecting during Ravenwatch campaign

Aurrynthea_Drake · June 2020

Tammany wrote: »

I've seen a lot of blues self ressurecting during Ravenwatch campaign

Ravenwatch is a dumpster fire of cheating, our guild plays fair but damn some days it is hard to get anything done when the cheats blow up the game.

gatekeeper13 · June 2020

I personally accept it when a player is better than me. But in SOME of the fights, I literally got 1-shot, as if I was standing uncovered in vFH, when Domihaus shouts "grovel". And I really don't understand how is it possible for some people to fire 4 different skills with LA between them in 1 sec while I can barely weapon swap because of the lag or have to hit Momentum like 5 times to activate it.

Lamiai · June 2020

Tammany wrote: »

I've seen a lot of blues self ressurecting during Ravenwatch campaign

And ive seen AD and EP do the exact same, its the same type of player on all factions.

FlopsyPrince · June 2020

Aurrynthea_Drake wrote: »

JamieAubrey wrote: »

Then it would just be DC capping the map with nothing to do

But then wouldn't it be fun to read them crying on the forums about how bad the cheating has gotten for a change instead of them trolling us with "get gud"?

They would still do the latter, unfortunately.

L_Nici · June 2020

To use mAcros would need pretty precise adjustions. Macros on a keyboard don't work just like that. They are to fast, no matter what you do even a programmed Macro will only perform the very first skill.

FakeZavos · June 2020

I like how people are still comparing massive lagg desyncs and the sheer skillgap between different players as "cheating". In other MMO's people would be impressed and would ask what the other person was using as sets, or if he/she has any tips to improve themself. But in this MMO, everyone thats better then a certain person or does something that looked weird is instantly a cheater.'

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[edited for baiting]

Lamiai · June 2020

FakeZavos wrote: »

I like how people are still comparing massive lagg desyncs and the sheer skillgap between different players as "cheating". In other MMO's people would be impressed and would ask what the other person was using as sets, or if he/she has any tips to improve themself. But in this MMO, everyone thats better then a certain person or does something that looked weird is instantly a cheater.'

Yep it's pitiful really, wish I had those mental gymnastics to believe everyone was cheating.

Tommy_The_Gun · June 2020

Some games do that. I know Dark Souls games had something like that. Once you cheat, your account goes to a "black list", and players from black list can only play with other players from black list, whenever you summon player to help you fight with a boss or to PvP with them.

But a game needs to have a good or at least decent cheat detection to begin with... ESO only has a button to report player... oh well...

Bobby_V_Rockit · June 2020

I’m telling you, lasers are what the people really want!

Mayrael · June 2020

Im not sure are those cheaters or just server lags. Yesterday I was at 40-50% of my hp, opponent used flurry and bam Im dead. Improved death recap stopped at 6,9k hp (with 34k resistances) and there was no other record what caused my death, it was like I would explode on my own. But still Im far from accusing someone of cheating, I've seen many strange things in this game and most was caused by bugs or exploits. Well technically exploiting is cheating to but at least it wasnt 3rd party soft.

Raudgrani · June 2020

It should be where cheaters are sent upon being found out cheating. Wasn't there even some FPS game that did exactly this?

JamieAubrey · June 2020

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Some are more obvious than others, Last night I saw a Sorc just vanish while being attack by ME and one other, I saw it twice so it wasn't a random encounter and it wasn't an invis pot, its like he Streaked away without the animation

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Heresyall · June 2020

People don't res alone , it's by using Necro ressurect ult , if u had atleast a little bit of game knowledge you would have known that.I didn't met anyone cheating for almost one year (since that ep nb moving iin the ground)

Bobby_V_Rockit · June 2020

Heresyall wrote: »

People don't res alone , it's by using Necro ressurect ult , if u had atleast a little bit of game knowledge you would have known that.I didn't met anyone cheating for almost one year (since that ep nb moving iin the ground)

That is an amazing point. An invisible necro (crouching, potion, vamp sprinting, etc.) just waiting to use the skill. That’s a good tactic, I might employ it myself

thank you!

Aurrynthea_Drake · June 2020

There are videos showing great players being beaten by cheaters on youtube for anyone to watch. I'm not a great player, I know that, but I do know a lot of awesome players who say the same thing about cheaters (and for the record it is VERY possible to create a macro that completes several complex keystrokes if you get the timings on the macro correct!)

The fact is there ARE cheaters in the game & I just think they should play against other cheaters instead of players who are consciously playing fair. If you are that good, well done you, here's your gold star, but I am trying to get better but it gets really demoralising when I see good players beaten by cheats.

If you are of the mind that I should just deal with it then you are just as much of the problem, cheaters flourish when allowed to by other apathetic players.

And if you are so good then you should be upset too, you got good by playing well, not by cheating unless...

Raisin · June 2020

I'm generally dubious of people's judgement regarding who is or isn't cheating. Everybody I knows who PVPs well is CONSTANTLY getting hate whispers about being a cheater, hacker, using macros, etc. So from my perspective, I just see that these accusations get thrown at non-cheaters all the time. Why would I believe that anyone is truly able to identify a cheater? Evidence for me says they can't.
I'm also fairly sure that macros wouldn't be very useful in PVP, as you need to play reactively. At best a macro could contain a short sequence of someone's burst, but even then the timing could easily be off.

Skysenzz · June 2020

Stop flagging others as cheaters when most of the time it's only just you that doesn't know how to play the game.
The amount of people that are absolute garbage in PVP in this game is insane. As a PVE player i go really occasionally in PvP; but when I do, I have a decent build, and try my best to play by myself. It usually doesn't really take long before someone message me and tell me i'm cheating. Truth is i'm just using my most basic PvE knowledge into PvP (EG bash weaving/animation canceling).
If it's just what it takes for me as a PvE main player to get flagged as a cheater, reading such thread about "cheaters, macro users or those famous """lag exploiter""" (when servers are just garbage lol)"[snip]

HF

edit: ain't saying there are no cheaters/macro exploiters, but because with what we see there, it feels like there are tons of them. been active in this game at high level for a couple of years now,[snip]

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mairwen85 · June 2020

Aurrynthea_Drake wrote: »

I am fed up of dealing with cheaters in Cyrodil - you know the ones, they are OBVIOUSLY using macros in combat & exploiting bugs ruthlessly

Because Zos cares so little about the law abiding players experience in game & only care about the money - I have a suggestion: Once someone is caught cheating just throw them onto a server with other cheaters. If they want to cheat then let them play with others who have as little regard for playing fair. They can cheat to their hearts content but then they can't cry foul when another cheater out cheats them!

Just a thought.

Have you reported with supporting video and/or screen capture evidence?

Artorias24 · June 2020

FakeZavos wrote: »

I like how people are still comparing massive lagg desyncs and the sheer skillgap between different players as "cheating". In other MMO's people would be impressed and would ask what the other person was using as sets, or if he/she has any tips to improve themself. But in this MMO, everyone thats better then a certain person or does something that looked weird is instantly a cheater.'

[snip]

[edited for baiting]

Its always like that and it will never Change.

I once played with an healbot on my side. Against Like 3 players and a sniper in the Back. We killed them and the sniper ran away only to wisper me that i am a cheater cause He couldnt kill me. He put me in ignore so i couldnt explain to him that 3k snipes wont kill me when i have an healbot on my side....

Odovacar · June 2020

Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »

Some games do that. I know Dark Souls games had something like that. Once you cheat, your account goes to a "black list", and players from black list can only play with other players from black list, whenever you summon player to help you fight with a boss or to PvP with them.

But a game needs to have a good or at least decent cheat detection to begin with... ESO only has a button to report player... oh well...

Dark Souls was bad there for a while with cheaters. I still encounter them here and there when I play. As far as ESO goes I've never really ran into cheaters that I know of. Consoles is a little different I'm assuming.

p4l4mu7 · June 2020

I'm standing still full hp one sec later I instantly die and there are 5 snipes in my death cap. I'd say it's desync but for weeks it has always been the same guy doing that. Either nobody else is desyncing or this guy is exploiting/cheating It is hard to tell what is going on in Cyro these days with all the cheats, lags and bugs. But I'm sure ZOS doesn't care at all. We were complaining about all the issues for 5 years now instead of fixing they just add new issues constant loading screens, bar swap bugs, skills are not firing etc.

Deathlord92 · June 2020

Sometimes the player is just very good and lag can play a big part in what just happened to my health haha 😂

MurderMostFoul · June 2020

Don't want cheaters? Play on console.

Juhasow · June 2020

Most of the time when there is some macro accusation being thrown there was no macro.

finehair · June 2020

Heresyall wrote: »

People don't res alone , it's by using Necro ressurect ult , if u had atleast a little bit of game knowledge you would have known that.I didn't met anyone cheating for almost one year (since that ep nb moving iin the ground)

you are right, if you had at least a little bit of game knowledge you would have known that there is literally rampant self res exploit going on in all of the campaigns now
and a lot of players from different factions are doing this, not just X faction so everyone stay calm about pointing fingers to our friendly enemies on other factions. We are in cyro to beat each other to a pulp after all, that's what we've signed up for.

NoodleESO · June 2020

Aurrynthea_Drake wrote: »

I am fed up of dealing with cheaters in Cyrodil - you know the ones, they are OBVIOUSLY using macros in combat & exploiting bugs ruthlessly

Because Zos cares so little about the law abiding players experience in game & only care about the money - I have a suggestion: Once someone is caught cheating just throw them onto a server with other cheaters. If they want to cheat then let them play with others who have as little regard for playing fair. They can cheat to their hearts content but then they can't cry foul when another cheater out cheats them!

Just a thought.

OP pls tell us, what exact "macro" are you dying to in pvp? Im not asking you to type out an exploit but instead tell us, what combination of skills are you considering as a "macro".

the global skill cool down is like .4 of a second or something, so its impossible to go past that without other factors such as latency from the server.

Synergies are off the global skill cool down so in about one second I can use an ability, use a synergy, and follow with a LA. But everything requires human input especially in pvp, macros are more than likely to be a lead weight than a crutch.

Xologamer · June 2020

Aurrynthea_Drake wrote: »

I am fed up of dealing with cheaters in Cyrodil - you know the ones, they are OBVIOUSLY using macros in combat & exploiting bugs ruthlessly

Because Zos cares so little about the law abiding players experience in game & only care about the money - I have a suggestion: Once someone is caught cheating just throw them onto a server with other cheaters. If they want to cheat then let them play with others who have as little regard for playing fair. They can cheat to their hearts content but then they can't cry foul when another cheater out cheats them!

Just a thought.

1. proof that anyone uses makros
(u cant even do that good)
2. how do u want to know that anyone uses makros
3. just because u died doesnt mean that the other HAS to use makros