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A Server Just For Cheaters

  • Alamakot
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    Don't want cheaters? Play on console.
    LOL
    If you're so "wise", let us know, how to transfer full 18 alt account with all stuff and leveled skills from pc to console

  • Trueblue
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    other question, not about cheater... why i cannot edit my post here??
  • Joinovikova
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    I am fed up of dealing with cheaters in Cyrodil - you know the ones, they are OBVIOUSLY using macros in combat & exploiting bugs ruthlessly

    Because Zos cares so little about the law abiding players experience in game & only care about the money - I have a suggestion: Once someone is caught cheating just throw them onto a server with other cheaters. If they want to cheat then let them play with others who have as little regard for playing fair. They can cheat to their hearts content but then they can't cry foul when another cheater out cheats them!

    Just a thought.

    Zos need to implment solid game combat logs (not only from addons also include all pvp action happend aroudn u simillair to wow even now clietn must recive this information) this will provide chance to player who want to play fair to sent suspicious logs to ESO support for additional review.. I use recount addon for this purposes and see 100% machine precise in row of more then 15 cancel its really interesting... I do not say its cheat sicne there are also server ping delay and little chance (1:1000000000000 it was performed by human..
  • Attackopsn
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    [snip]

    If you think using macros in this game is even remotely useful, especially in pvp, oh man

    [snip]

    [edited for baiting/bashing]
    Edited by ZOS_Lunar on June 24, 2020 5:58PM
    ign: ATTACKO
    PS4 NA
    First NA Completion of VMoL Hard Mode


  • relentless_turnip
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    Please explain cheating? I have seen many people accuse people more skilled than themselves accuse them of "cheating". I myself have been accused of using macros and cheating, when what actually happened was a perfect combo 😜👍

    Learning how to line up a combo for maximum effect is not cheating. I have never fought someone who is "cheating" and so can't see how other see so many. I can quite understand a person not accepting the skill gap that exists between the person that killed them and themselves. In that case join a guild and get better👍

    Read your death recap and it will make sense, but no macro can enable you to cast more than one skill a second. So it is equally achievable without them and writing someone off as a cheater will not help you get better. An honest look at your own performance will. I use combat metrics to review what killed me sometimes.

    Edited by relentless_turnip on June 24, 2020 2:45PM
  • Zabagad
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    Some are more obvious than others, Last night I saw a Sorc just vanish while being attack by ME and one other, I saw it twice so it wasn't a random encounter and it wasn't an invis pot, its like he Streaked away without the animation
    Lol ESO world is small :) - I was the other one, because I experienced the same sorc (with a flappy) - I have that on video and now I saw your name on that vid :)
    But, how do you know it was no invis pot? At that moment he was behind a rock, so I missed the "animation".
    But my first guess was invis pot and I put this video in my "toxic" folder, to check again if I see that player again.
    And btw - there were more "strange" on that player then the invis - But I would never say that that was cheating!
    For that reason I have my toxic folder and I collect these strange player/situations until I'm really convinced.


    Edited by Zabagad on June 24, 2020 2:49PM
    As a non-pet sorc since 2016 the U46 Patch Notes sound like: "Those who do not wish to interact with the pet gameplay can now replace this skill line eso as a whole."
  • MincVinyl
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    I am fed up of dealing with cheaters in Cyrodil - you know the ones, they are OBVIOUSLY using macros in combat & exploiting bugs ruthlessly

    Because Zos cares so little about the law abiding players experience in game & only care about the money - I have a suggestion: Once someone is caught cheating just throw them onto a server with other cheaters. If they want to cheat then let them play with others who have as little regard for playing fair. They can cheat to their hearts content but then they can't cry foul when another cheater out cheats them!

    Just a thought.

    I would love to get a better description about these "cheaters".

    There is almost nothing you can cheat at in this game. There is the random bug of the month that some players risk their account to abuse, but beyond that there is nothing to really macro that gives an advantage. Look into how to set up a macro, it is all time dependent, which means because of *** server performance no macro will really work. The only possible thing a macro can be used for is something that presses "x" multiple times when you press x. These are used all the time by people abusing the harmony meta.

    Even if the servers worked with 40ms delay like most modern games, macro'd combos wont benefit you at all since most pvp rotations are made up on the fly depending on the situation. The game also works on a GCD (global cooldown) system, which means there will always be a set amount of time between light attacks and abilities. The game also buffers inputs for you so the timing isnt intense by any means, generally you can only have 3 inputs in a GCD that are buffered. Compared to alot of fighting games this is really really slow combat. Some games have players achieve perfect frame inputs 1/60 of a second inputs. Eso really only reaches 20/60 of a second, which is really close to the average human reaction time to appeal to the more casual playerbase.
    I am going to assume that there will be comments saying l2p, in this case they are most likely true.
  • Xologamer
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    MincVinyl wrote: »
    I am fed up of dealing with cheaters in Cyrodil - you know the ones, they are OBVIOUSLY using macros in combat & exploiting bugs ruthlessly

    Because Zos cares so little about the law abiding players experience in game & only care about the money - I have a suggestion: Once someone is caught cheating just throw them onto a server with other cheaters. If they want to cheat then let them play with others who have as little regard for playing fair. They can cheat to their hearts content but then they can't cry foul when another cheater out cheats them!

    Just a thought.

    I would love to get a better description about these "cheaters".

    There is almost nothing you can cheat at in this game. There is the random bug of the month that some players risk their account to abuse, but beyond that there is nothing to really macro that gives an advantage. Look into how to set up a macro, it is all time dependent, which means because of *** server performance no macro will really work. The only possible thing a macro can be used for is something that presses "x" multiple times when you press x. These are used all the time by people abusing the harmony meta.

    Even if the servers worked with 40ms delay like most modern games, macro'd combos wont benefit you at all since most pvp rotations are made up on the fly depending on the situation. The game also works on a GCD (global cooldown) system, which means there will always be a set amount of time between light attacks and abilities. The game also buffers inputs for you so the timing isnt intense by any means, generally you can only have 3 inputs in a GCD that are buffered. Compared to alot of fighting games this is really really slow combat. Some games have players achieve perfect frame inputs 1/60 of a second inputs. Eso really only reaches 20/60 of a second, which is really close to the average human reaction time to appeal to the more casual playerbase.
    I am going to assume that there will be comments saying l2p, in this case they are most likely true.

    cause u asked... for sure u can cheat ... but the most player writing here never saw a ,,real" cheater
    but here for you
    ah and before usay these video is 1year old ... all already fixed... no there updatet versions of it
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NH6qdsvALLk
    Edited by Xologamer on June 24, 2020 2:56PM
  • Bucky_13
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    I personally accept it when a player is better than me. But in SOME of the fights, I literally got 1-shot, as if I was standing uncovered in vFH, when Domihaus shouts "grovel". And I really don't understand how is it possible for some people to fire 4 different skills with LA between them in 1 sec while I can barely weapon swap because of the lag or have to hit Momentum like 5 times to activate it.

    It possible for anyone high latency situation to do that. A few days ago, after spending 10 seconds trying to get rally and leeching strikes up, I tried a snipe+silver shards combo. Nothing happened. I pressed the buttons again. Nothing happened. Then the player i targeted died by getting hit by everything simultaneously. A few minutes later I died in the same manner.

    I've also had a duel against a DC where we basically spammed stuff and half of it went off until they suddenly instadied from me hitting multiple abilities before they could do the same to me. I even whispered them afterwards and we found common ground in that the performance in Cyro is crap and that the spontaneous duel was luck with zero skill because of it.

    I don't try to do that, it just happens when I try to fight normally. Sometimes nothing happens for 20+ seconds and I just give up trying to use any skills. Or I spend another 20 seconds trying to sneak away, or swap weapon bar which might work, or I get the slo mo bug and just try to get killed to get rid of it. I usually play solo or in small groups, and ball groups are by far the most common reason for my skills getting weird. And Cropsford for whatever reasons, even if it's PvE against guards.
  • MincVinyl
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    Xologamer wrote: »
    MincVinyl wrote: »
    I am fed up of dealing with cheaters in Cyrodil - you know the ones, they are OBVIOUSLY using macros in combat & exploiting bugs ruthlessly

    Because Zos cares so little about the law abiding players experience in game & only care about the money - I have a suggestion: Once someone is caught cheating just throw them onto a server with other cheaters. If they want to cheat then let them play with others who have as little regard for playing fair. They can cheat to their hearts content but then they can't cry foul when another cheater out cheats them!

    Just a thought.

    I would love to get a better description about these "cheaters".

    There is almost nothing you can cheat at in this game. There is the random bug of the month that some players risk their account to abuse, but beyond that there is nothing to really macro that gives an advantage. Look into how to set up a macro, it is all time dependent, which means because of *** server performance no macro will really work. The only possible thing a macro can be used for is something that presses "x" multiple times when you press x. These are used all the time by people abusing the harmony meta.

    Even if the servers worked with 40ms delay like most modern games, macro'd combos wont benefit you at all since most pvp rotations are made up on the fly depending on the situation. The game also works on a GCD (global cooldown) system, which means there will always be a set amount of time between light attacks and abilities. The game also buffers inputs for you so the timing isnt intense by any means, generally you can only have 3 inputs in a GCD that are buffered. Compared to alot of fighting games this is really really slow combat. Some games have players achieve perfect frame inputs 1/60 of a second inputs. Eso really only reaches 20/60 of a second, which is really close to the average human reaction time to appeal to the more casual playerbase.
    I am going to assume that there will be comments saying l2p, in this case they are most likely true.

    cause u asked... for sure u can cheat ... but the most player writing here never saw a ,,real" cheater
    but here for you
    ah and before usay these video is 1year old ... all already fixed... no there updatet versions of it
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NH6qdsvALLk

    Yeah we have all seen that vid, pretty sure this was just a client side issue that zos had to put server side to stop. To be honest at this point I would be perfectly fine having people like this cheating in the game instead of non functioning servers that are overloaded by all the mechanics being moved server side. Be easier to cut off some of the shitters that need to pay for scripts to compete.
  • Mortiis13
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    L_Nici wrote: »
    To use mAcros would need pretty precise adjustions. Macros on a keyboard don't work just like that. They are to fast, no matter what you do even a programmed Macro will only perform the very first skill.

    Just get a *** 30 bucks mmo mouse. Insert time delay in your macros between each action and voila. A whole rotation in 1 button press.

    But you have to have a stable ping to use macros like that. So zos ping "ping pong" is intended, it's their anty macro feature ;-P
  • MincVinyl
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    Mortiis13 wrote: »
    L_Nici wrote: »
    To use mAcros would need pretty precise adjustions. Macros on a keyboard don't work just like that. They are to fast, no matter what you do even a programmed Macro will only perform the very first skill.

    Just get a *** 30 bucks mmo mouse. Insert time delay in your macros between each action and voila. A whole rotation in 1 button press.

    But you have to have a stable ping to use macros like that. So zos ping "ping pong" is intended, it's their anty macro feature ;-P

    Even with perfect ping/server lag it still doesn't change the fact that the macro does not give any benefit over a normal player. If anything there are more disadvantages.
  • MurderMostFoul
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    Alamakot wrote: »
    Don't want cheaters? Play on console.
    LOL
    If you're so "wise", let us know, how to transfer full 18 alt account with all stuff and leveled skills from pc to console

    Wisdom:

    You can't.
    “There is nothing either good or bad, but thinking makes it so.”
  • Neoauspex
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    Console master race
  • Xologamer
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    Neoauspex wrote: »
    Console master race

    get addons
  • Juhasow
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    Xologamer wrote: »
    MincVinyl wrote: »
    I am fed up of dealing with cheaters in Cyrodil - you know the ones, they are OBVIOUSLY using macros in combat & exploiting bugs ruthlessly

    Because Zos cares so little about the law abiding players experience in game & only care about the money - I have a suggestion: Once someone is caught cheating just throw them onto a server with other cheaters. If they want to cheat then let them play with others who have as little regard for playing fair. They can cheat to their hearts content but then they can't cry foul when another cheater out cheats them!

    Just a thought.

    I would love to get a better description about these "cheaters".

    There is almost nothing you can cheat at in this game. There is the random bug of the month that some players risk their account to abuse, but beyond that there is nothing to really macro that gives an advantage. Look into how to set up a macro, it is all time dependent, which means because of *** server performance no macro will really work. The only possible thing a macro can be used for is something that presses "x" multiple times when you press x. These are used all the time by people abusing the harmony meta.

    Even if the servers worked with 40ms delay like most modern games, macro'd combos wont benefit you at all since most pvp rotations are made up on the fly depending on the situation. The game also works on a GCD (global cooldown) system, which means there will always be a set amount of time between light attacks and abilities. The game also buffers inputs for you so the timing isnt intense by any means, generally you can only have 3 inputs in a GCD that are buffered. Compared to alot of fighting games this is really really slow combat. Some games have players achieve perfect frame inputs 1/60 of a second inputs. Eso really only reaches 20/60 of a second, which is really close to the average human reaction time to appeal to the more casual playerbase.
    I am going to assume that there will be comments saying l2p, in this case they are most likely true.

    cause u asked... for sure u can cheat ... but the most player writing here never saw a ,,real" cheater
    but here for you
    ah and before usay these video is 1year old ... all already fixed... no there updatet versions of it
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NH6qdsvALLk

    It's funny that all people rioting about cheating in game always link that one particular video. That truly shows how "big" of a problem cheating in ESO is. One person per maybe 1 thousand is using cheats and then suddenly ESO is game full of cheaters. Get real. Everyone is aware cheating exist but 99% of a time people accuse others of cheating and macros they were outplayed in regular fashion or some other non cheating connected things like lag happened but since they don't understand what happened is must be cheating and macros of course.
  • Juhasow
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    Don't want cheaters? Play on console.
    Neoauspex wrote: »
    Console master race

    In 2020 people still belive You can't cheat on consoles. News flash You can.
  • Xologamer
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    Juhasow wrote: »
    Xologamer wrote: »
    MincVinyl wrote: »
    I am fed up of dealing with cheaters in Cyrodil - you know the ones, they are OBVIOUSLY using macros in combat & exploiting bugs ruthlessly

    Because Zos cares so little about the law abiding players experience in game & only care about the money - I have a suggestion: Once someone is caught cheating just throw them onto a server with other cheaters. If they want to cheat then let them play with others who have as little regard for playing fair. They can cheat to their hearts content but then they can't cry foul when another cheater out cheats them!

    Just a thought.

    I would love to get a better description about these "cheaters".

    There is almost nothing you can cheat at in this game. There is the random bug of the month that some players risk their account to abuse, but beyond that there is nothing to really macro that gives an advantage. Look into how to set up a macro, it is all time dependent, which means because of *** server performance no macro will really work. The only possible thing a macro can be used for is something that presses "x" multiple times when you press x. These are used all the time by people abusing the harmony meta.

    Even if the servers worked with 40ms delay like most modern games, macro'd combos wont benefit you at all since most pvp rotations are made up on the fly depending on the situation. The game also works on a GCD (global cooldown) system, which means there will always be a set amount of time between light attacks and abilities. The game also buffers inputs for you so the timing isnt intense by any means, generally you can only have 3 inputs in a GCD that are buffered. Compared to alot of fighting games this is really really slow combat. Some games have players achieve perfect frame inputs 1/60 of a second inputs. Eso really only reaches 20/60 of a second, which is really close to the average human reaction time to appeal to the more casual playerbase.
    I am going to assume that there will be comments saying l2p, in this case they are most likely true.

    cause u asked... for sure u can cheat ... but the most player writing here never saw a ,,real" cheater
    but here for you
    ah and before usay these video is 1year old ... all already fixed... no there updatet versions of it
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NH6qdsvALLk

    It's funny that all people rioting about cheating in game always link that one particular video. That truly shows how "big" of a problem cheating in ESO is. One person per maybe 1 thousand is using cheats and then suddenly ESO is game full of cheaters. Get real. Everyone is aware cheating exist but 99% of a time people accuse others of cheating and macros they were outplayed in regular fashion or some other non cheating connected things like lag happened but since they don't understand what happened is must be cheating and macros of course.

    i m more of the side saying that we4 dont have a problem but anyone asked for a proof that cheater exist

    ah and i copied it right out of a other thread thats why its the same
    Edited by Xologamer on June 24, 2020 4:24PM
  • alainjbrennanb16_ESO
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    mairwen85 wrote: »
    I am fed up of dealing with cheaters in Cyrodil - you know the ones, they are OBVIOUSLY using macros in combat & exploiting bugs ruthlessly

    Because Zos cares so little about the law abiding players experience in game & only care about the money - I have a suggestion: Once someone is caught cheating just throw them onto a server with other cheaters. If they want to cheat then let them play with others who have as little regard for playing fair. They can cheat to their hearts content but then they can't cry foul when another cheater out cheats them!

    Just a thought.

    Have you reported with supporting video and/or screen capture evidence?

    they run with me on the server and well i see it all the time, main character pvp vanikfar whitestrike
    Main character dk - Vanikifar whitestrike
  • alainjbrennanb16_ESO
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    Xologamer wrote: »
    I am fed up of dealing with cheaters in Cyrodil - you know the ones, they are OBVIOUSLY using macros in combat & exploiting bugs ruthlessly

    Because Zos cares so little about the law abiding players experience in game & only care about the money - I have a suggestion: Once someone is caught cheating just throw them onto a server with other cheaters. If they want to cheat then let them play with others who have as little regard for playing fair. They can cheat to their hearts content but then they can't cry foul when another cheater out cheats them!

    Just a thought.

    1. proof that anyone uses makros
    (u cant even do that good)
    2. how do u want to know that anyone uses makros
    3. just because u died doesnt mean that the other HAS to use makros

    i know how to set a macro for eso and dont and it is possible would explain here but would get banned, its not that hard
    Main character dk - Vanikifar whitestrike
  • alainjbrennanb16_ESO
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    NoodleESO wrote: »
    I am fed up of dealing with cheaters in Cyrodil - you know the ones, they are OBVIOUSLY using macros in combat & exploiting bugs ruthlessly

    Because Zos cares so little about the law abiding players experience in game & only care about the money - I have a suggestion: Once someone is caught cheating just throw them onto a server with other cheaters. If they want to cheat then let them play with others who have as little regard for playing fair. They can cheat to their hearts content but then they can't cry foul when another cheater out cheats them!

    Just a thought.

    OP pls tell us, what exact "macro" are you dying to in pvp? Im not asking you to type out an exploit but instead tell us, what combination of skills are you considering as a "macro".

    the global skill cool down is like .4 of a second or something, so its impossible to go past that without other factors such as latency from the server.

    Synergies are off the global skill cool down so in about one second I can use an ability, use a synergy, and follow with a LA. But everything requires human input especially in pvp, macros are more than likely to be a lead weight than a crutch.

    the gobal cooldown is a 0.333333 of a sec skills and la are on diff cool downs
    Main character dk - Vanikifar whitestrike
  • Greystag
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    Lamiai wrote: »
    Tammany wrote: »
    I've seen a lot of blues self ressurecting during Ravenwatch campaign

    And ive seen AD and EP do the exact same, its the same type of player on all factions.

    They're not ready for that conversation, don't press them. :D
    | PC / EU |
    | Aspen Greystag, Khajiit Warden |
    | Healer, Tank |
    | CP: 2500 |
    | Guilds: Officer at Meridia's Light |
  • alainjbrennanb16_ESO
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    Juhasow wrote: »
    Xologamer wrote: »
    MincVinyl wrote: »
    I am fed up of dealing with cheaters in Cyrodil - you know the ones, they are OBVIOUSLY using macros in combat & exploiting bugs ruthlessly

    Because Zos cares so little about the law abiding players experience in game & only care about the money - I have a suggestion: Once someone is caught cheating just throw them onto a server with other cheaters. If they want to cheat then let them play with others who have as little regard for playing fair. They can cheat to their hearts content but then they can't cry foul when another cheater out cheats them!

    Just a thought.

    I would love to get a better description about these "cheaters".

    There is almost nothing you can cheat at in this game. There is the random bug of the month that some players risk their account to abuse, but beyond that there is nothing to really macro that gives an advantage. Look into how to set up a macro, it is all time dependent, which means because of *** server performance no macro will really work. The only possible thing a macro can be used for is something that presses "x" multiple times when you press x. These are used all the time by people abusing the harmony meta.

    Even if the servers worked with 40ms delay like most modern games, macro'd combos wont benefit you at all since most pvp rotations are made up on the fly depending on the situation. The game also works on a GCD (global cooldown) system, which means there will always be a set amount of time between light attacks and abilities. The game also buffers inputs for you so the timing isnt intense by any means, generally you can only have 3 inputs in a GCD that are buffered. Compared to alot of fighting games this is really really slow combat. Some games have players achieve perfect frame inputs 1/60 of a second inputs. Eso really only reaches 20/60 of a second, which is really close to the average human reaction time to appeal to the more casual playerbase.
    I am going to assume that there will be comments saying l2p, in this case they are most likely true.

    cause u asked... for sure u can cheat ... but the most player writing here never saw a ,,real" cheater
    but here for you
    ah and before usay these video is 1year old ... all already fixed... no there updatet versions of it
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NH6qdsvALLk

    It's funny that all people rioting about cheating in game always link that one particular video. That truly shows how "big" of a problem cheating in ESO is. One person per maybe 1 thousand is using cheats and then suddenly ESO is game full of cheaters. Get real. Everyone is aware cheating exist but 99% of a time people accuse others of cheating and macros they were outplayed in regular fashion or some other non cheating connected things like lag happened but since they don't understand what happened is must be cheating and macros of course.

    you do release using a skill that is bugged out is an expolit, so a form of cheating
    Main character dk - Vanikifar whitestrike
  • laksikus
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    Juhasow wrote: »
    Xologamer wrote: »
    MincVinyl wrote: »
    I am fed up of dealing with cheaters in Cyrodil - you know the ones, they are OBVIOUSLY using macros in combat & exploiting bugs ruthlessly

    Because Zos cares so little about the law abiding players experience in game & only care about the money - I have a suggestion: Once someone is caught cheating just throw them onto a server with other cheaters. If they want to cheat then let them play with others who have as little regard for playing fair. They can cheat to their hearts content but then they can't cry foul when another cheater out cheats them!

    Just a thought.

    I would love to get a better description about these "cheaters".

    There is almost nothing you can cheat at in this game. There is the random bug of the month that some players risk their account to abuse, but beyond that there is nothing to really macro that gives an advantage. Look into how to set up a macro, it is all time dependent, which means because of *** server performance no macro will really work. The only possible thing a macro can be used for is something that presses "x" multiple times when you press x. These are used all the time by people abusing the harmony meta.

    Even if the servers worked with 40ms delay like most modern games, macro'd combos wont benefit you at all since most pvp rotations are made up on the fly depending on the situation. The game also works on a GCD (global cooldown) system, which means there will always be a set amount of time between light attacks and abilities. The game also buffers inputs for you so the timing isnt intense by any means, generally you can only have 3 inputs in a GCD that are buffered. Compared to alot of fighting games this is really really slow combat. Some games have players achieve perfect frame inputs 1/60 of a second inputs. Eso really only reaches 20/60 of a second, which is really close to the average human reaction time to appeal to the more casual playerbase.
    I am going to assume that there will be comments saying l2p, in this case they are most likely true.

    cause u asked... for sure u can cheat ... but the most player writing here never saw a ,,real" cheater
    but here for you
    ah and before usay these video is 1year old ... all already fixed... no there updatet versions of it
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NH6qdsvALLk

    It's funny that all people rioting about cheating in game always link that one particular video. That truly shows how "big" of a problem cheating in ESO is. One person per maybe 1 thousand is using cheats and then suddenly ESO is game full of cheaters. Get real. Everyone is aware cheating exist but 99% of a time people accuse others of cheating and macros they were outplayed in regular fashion or some other non cheating connected things like lag happened but since they don't understand what happened is must be cheating and macros of course.

    you do release using a skill that is bugged out is an expolit, so a form of cheating

    exploit =/= cheat

    you can exploit alot of things that arent cheats.
    and using bugged skills isnt always an exploit either
  • alainjbrennanb16_ESO
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    laksikus wrote: »
    Juhasow wrote: »
    Xologamer wrote: »
    MincVinyl wrote: »
    I am fed up of dealing with cheaters in Cyrodil - you know the ones, they are OBVIOUSLY using macros in combat & exploiting bugs ruthlessly

    Because Zos cares so little about the law abiding players experience in game & only care about the money - I have a suggestion: Once someone is caught cheating just throw them onto a server with other cheaters. If they want to cheat then let them play with others who have as little regard for playing fair. They can cheat to their hearts content but then they can't cry foul when another cheater out cheats them!

    Just a thought.

    I would love to get a better description about these "cheaters".

    There is almost nothing you can cheat at in this game. There is the random bug of the month that some players risk their account to abuse, but beyond that there is nothing to really macro that gives an advantage. Look into how to set up a macro, it is all time dependent, which means because of *** server performance no macro will really work. The only possible thing a macro can be used for is something that presses "x" multiple times when you press x. These are used all the time by people abusing the harmony meta.

    Even if the servers worked with 40ms delay like most modern games, macro'd combos wont benefit you at all since most pvp rotations are made up on the fly depending on the situation. The game also works on a GCD (global cooldown) system, which means there will always be a set amount of time between light attacks and abilities. The game also buffers inputs for you so the timing isnt intense by any means, generally you can only have 3 inputs in a GCD that are buffered. Compared to alot of fighting games this is really really slow combat. Some games have players achieve perfect frame inputs 1/60 of a second inputs. Eso really only reaches 20/60 of a second, which is really close to the average human reaction time to appeal to the more casual playerbase.
    I am going to assume that there will be comments saying l2p, in this case they are most likely true.

    cause u asked... for sure u can cheat ... but the most player writing here never saw a ,,real" cheater
    but here for you
    ah and before usay these video is 1year old ... all already fixed... no there updatet versions of it
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NH6qdsvALLk

    It's funny that all people rioting about cheating in game always link that one particular video. That truly shows how "big" of a problem cheating in ESO is. One person per maybe 1 thousand is using cheats and then suddenly ESO is game full of cheaters. Get real. Everyone is aware cheating exist but 99% of a time people accuse others of cheating and macros they were outplayed in regular fashion or some other non cheating connected things like lag happened but since they don't understand what happened is must be cheating and macros of course.

    you do release using a skill that is bugged out is an expolit, so a form of cheating

    exploit =/= cheat

    you can exploit alot of things that arent cheats.
    and using bugged skills isnt always an exploit either

    i can use skills on my nb while cloaked and dont come out of cloak dont use cloak on her for now
    Main character dk - Vanikifar whitestrike
  • laksikus
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    laksikus wrote: »
    Juhasow wrote: »
    Xologamer wrote: »
    MincVinyl wrote: »
    I am fed up of dealing with cheaters in Cyrodil - you know the ones, they are OBVIOUSLY using macros in combat & exploiting bugs ruthlessly

    Because Zos cares so little about the law abiding players experience in game & only care about the money - I have a suggestion: Once someone is caught cheating just throw them onto a server with other cheaters. If they want to cheat then let them play with others who have as little regard for playing fair. They can cheat to their hearts content but then they can't cry foul when another cheater out cheats them!

    Just a thought.

    I would love to get a better description about these "cheaters".

    There is almost nothing you can cheat at in this game. There is the random bug of the month that some players risk their account to abuse, but beyond that there is nothing to really macro that gives an advantage. Look into how to set up a macro, it is all time dependent, which means because of *** server performance no macro will really work. The only possible thing a macro can be used for is something that presses "x" multiple times when you press x. These are used all the time by people abusing the harmony meta.

    Even if the servers worked with 40ms delay like most modern games, macro'd combos wont benefit you at all since most pvp rotations are made up on the fly depending on the situation. The game also works on a GCD (global cooldown) system, which means there will always be a set amount of time between light attacks and abilities. The game also buffers inputs for you so the timing isnt intense by any means, generally you can only have 3 inputs in a GCD that are buffered. Compared to alot of fighting games this is really really slow combat. Some games have players achieve perfect frame inputs 1/60 of a second inputs. Eso really only reaches 20/60 of a second, which is really close to the average human reaction time to appeal to the more casual playerbase.
    I am going to assume that there will be comments saying l2p, in this case they are most likely true.

    cause u asked... for sure u can cheat ... but the most player writing here never saw a ,,real" cheater
    but here for you
    ah and before usay these video is 1year old ... all already fixed... no there updatet versions of it
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NH6qdsvALLk

    It's funny that all people rioting about cheating in game always link that one particular video. That truly shows how "big" of a problem cheating in ESO is. One person per maybe 1 thousand is using cheats and then suddenly ESO is game full of cheaters. Get real. Everyone is aware cheating exist but 99% of a time people accuse others of cheating and macros they were outplayed in regular fashion or some other non cheating connected things like lag happened but since they don't understand what happened is must be cheating and macros of course.

    you do release using a skill that is bugged out is an expolit, so a form of cheating

    exploit =/= cheat

    you can exploit alot of things that arent cheats.
    and using bugged skills isnt always an exploit either

    i can use skills on my nb while cloaked and dont come out of cloak dont use cloak on her for now

    thats not a bug, thats lag.
  • Oreyn_Bearclaw
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    Anyone actually caught cheating is typically banned. This sounds more like a L2P pity party than anything actually constructive in terms of a solution.

    Blatant cheating is not nearly as common as the forums would have you believe.
  • Jayman1000
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    I am fed up of dealing with cheaters in Cyrodil - you know the ones, they are OBVIOUSLY using macros in combat & exploiting bugs ruthlessly

    Because Zos cares so little about the law abiding players experience in game & only care about the money - I have a suggestion: Once someone is caught cheating just throw them onto a server with other cheaters. If they want to cheat then let them play with others who have as little regard for playing fair. They can cheat to their hearts content but then they can't cry foul when another cheater out cheats them!

    Just a thought.

    Currently those players when caught are most likely getting banned. How is your idea going to change anything for legitimate players in cyrodiil?
  • alainjbrennanb16_ESO
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    laksikus wrote: »
    laksikus wrote: »
    Juhasow wrote: »
    Xologamer wrote: »
    MincVinyl wrote: »
    I am fed up of dealing with cheaters in Cyrodil - you know the ones, they are OBVIOUSLY using macros in combat & exploiting bugs ruthlessly

    Because Zos cares so little about the law abiding players experience in game & only care about the money - I have a suggestion: Once someone is caught cheating just throw them onto a server with other cheaters. If they want to cheat then let them play with others who have as little regard for playing fair. They can cheat to their hearts content but then they can't cry foul when another cheater out cheats them!

    Just a thought.

    I would love to get a better description about these "cheaters".

    There is almost nothing you can cheat at in this game. There is the random bug of the month that some players risk their account to abuse, but beyond that there is nothing to really macro that gives an advantage. Look into how to set up a macro, it is all time dependent, which means because of *** server performance no macro will really work. The only possible thing a macro can be used for is something that presses "x" multiple times when you press x. These are used all the time by people abusing the harmony meta.

    Even if the servers worked with 40ms delay like most modern games, macro'd combos wont benefit you at all since most pvp rotations are made up on the fly depending on the situation. The game also works on a GCD (global cooldown) system, which means there will always be a set amount of time between light attacks and abilities. The game also buffers inputs for you so the timing isnt intense by any means, generally you can only have 3 inputs in a GCD that are buffered. Compared to alot of fighting games this is really really slow combat. Some games have players achieve perfect frame inputs 1/60 of a second inputs. Eso really only reaches 20/60 of a second, which is really close to the average human reaction time to appeal to the more casual playerbase.
    I am going to assume that there will be comments saying l2p, in this case they are most likely true.

    cause u asked... for sure u can cheat ... but the most player writing here never saw a ,,real" cheater
    but here for you
    ah and before usay these video is 1year old ... all already fixed... no there updatet versions of it
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NH6qdsvALLk

    It's funny that all people rioting about cheating in game always link that one particular video. That truly shows how "big" of a problem cheating in ESO is. One person per maybe 1 thousand is using cheats and then suddenly ESO is game full of cheaters. Get real. Everyone is aware cheating exist but 99% of a time people accuse others of cheating and macros they were outplayed in regular fashion or some other non cheating connected things like lag happened but since they don't understand what happened is must be cheating and macros of course.

    you do release using a skill that is bugged out is an expolit, so a form of cheating

    exploit =/= cheat

    you can exploit alot of things that arent cheats.
    and using bugged skills isnt always an exploit either

    i can use skills on my nb while cloaked and dont come out of cloak dont use cloak on her for now

    thats not a bug, thats lag.

    and no its not lag i tried it against a trial dummy never came out of cloak t check if it was lag, you need to read the t&c's fully its not what we think but using a bug or expolit zos see's it as cheating, it makes no diff to us what we think, ie: flag flipping had a bug and lots got banned, which became public
    Main character dk - Vanikifar whitestrike
  • laksikus
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    laksikus wrote: »
    laksikus wrote: »
    Juhasow wrote: »
    Xologamer wrote: »
    MincVinyl wrote: »
    I am fed up of dealing with cheaters in Cyrodil - you know the ones, they are OBVIOUSLY using macros in combat & exploiting bugs ruthlessly

    Because Zos cares so little about the law abiding players experience in game & only care about the money - I have a suggestion: Once someone is caught cheating just throw them onto a server with other cheaters. If they want to cheat then let them play with others who have as little regard for playing fair. They can cheat to their hearts content but then they can't cry foul when another cheater out cheats them!

    Just a thought.

    I would love to get a better description about these "cheaters".

    There is almost nothing you can cheat at in this game. There is the random bug of the month that some players risk their account to abuse, but beyond that there is nothing to really macro that gives an advantage. Look into how to set up a macro, it is all time dependent, which means because of *** server performance no macro will really work. The only possible thing a macro can be used for is something that presses "x" multiple times when you press x. These are used all the time by people abusing the harmony meta.

    Even if the servers worked with 40ms delay like most modern games, macro'd combos wont benefit you at all since most pvp rotations are made up on the fly depending on the situation. The game also works on a GCD (global cooldown) system, which means there will always be a set amount of time between light attacks and abilities. The game also buffers inputs for you so the timing isnt intense by any means, generally you can only have 3 inputs in a GCD that are buffered. Compared to alot of fighting games this is really really slow combat. Some games have players achieve perfect frame inputs 1/60 of a second inputs. Eso really only reaches 20/60 of a second, which is really close to the average human reaction time to appeal to the more casual playerbase.
    I am going to assume that there will be comments saying l2p, in this case they are most likely true.

    cause u asked... for sure u can cheat ... but the most player writing here never saw a ,,real" cheater
    but here for you
    ah and before usay these video is 1year old ... all already fixed... no there updatet versions of it
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NH6qdsvALLk

    It's funny that all people rioting about cheating in game always link that one particular video. That truly shows how "big" of a problem cheating in ESO is. One person per maybe 1 thousand is using cheats and then suddenly ESO is game full of cheaters. Get real. Everyone is aware cheating exist but 99% of a time people accuse others of cheating and macros they were outplayed in regular fashion or some other non cheating connected things like lag happened but since they don't understand what happened is must be cheating and macros of course.

    you do release using a skill that is bugged out is an expolit, so a form of cheating

    exploit =/= cheat

    you can exploit alot of things that arent cheats.
    and using bugged skills isnt always an exploit either

    i can use skills on my nb while cloaked and dont come out of cloak dont use cloak on her for now

    thats not a bug, thats lag.

    and no its not lag i tried it against a trial dummy never came out of cloak t check if it was lag, you need to read the t&c's fully its not what we think but using a bug or expolit zos see's it as cheating, it makes no diff to us what we think, ie: flag flipping had a bug and lots got banned, which became public

    what was the bug at flag flipping.
    all i remember is ap flipping during midyear, and alot of people were never banned.
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