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BUGS and EXPLOITS its a JOKE how its dealt with

  • Gythral
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    if <loss of revenue> <= <cost of fix>
    do nothing
    else <push to marketing>


    :wink:


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    Shakes not its top for any blast that blows!”
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  • JonnytheKing
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    Gythral wrote: »
    if <loss of revenue> <= <cost of fix>
    do nothing
    else <push to marketing>


    :wink:


    i feel like zos is stufing up they math tho , pvp is such a small % of the player base , becouse the games broke , its sad tho they are makeing millons of dollars a mouth and still cant fix simple bugs. any way your probly right
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  • Bucky_13
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    Bucky_13 wrote: »
    Bucky_13 wrote: »
    zvavi wrote: »
    So iv seen a lot of posts about the rez bug , This has been in the game for 6 mouths plus ,
    Poeple are blaming players , when i think zos needs to take more responsabilitty and fix simple bugs faster
    insted they say film it and report it so we can ban them .
    Does this mean poeple exploiting desinks are in the wrong as well.
    Poeple have lost faith in zos, how are poeple meant to care when in my opinon ZOS has shown over and over pvp is
    last thing they care about , Brokon promise after brokon promise.
    Stop blaming the player

    if you use a bug 1-3 then it can be a mistake but if you use reg then its the players fault

    So the poeple that desink me over and over , are at fult ? so poeple shouldnt use bow at all is wat your saying or skills with cast times or any ranged skills

    if you use a bug over and over and know its a bug its the players fault

    So you are saying that you are not allowed to use cast time skills in PvP at all?

    what!!! please dont try and put words in my mouth, if you know a skill can be expolited then dont use it, or use it that is ur risk, but to state i use it because the game is broken is no excuse, use skills that dont or cant be expolited, i dont use on my pvp character vanikfar whitestrike in non cp ep, i changed skills to stop make sure i did not expolit a bug, but if you want to use and possible recieve a ban go ahead, but to use a bug is giving peeps and unfair advantage on others who are not using it

    Since we both play on the same campaign and same side, I know we have similar experiences with performance. There are some exploits that are more obvious, like "ress with scroll at gates". Then there's builds designed around using desynch to your advantage. Sniper builds really don't need desynch and lag to be effective, it just one of the builds that works in both cases.

    The problem here is that the skill is so useful and essential to the build (mainly for the range+dmg), especially in keep battles that not using it nerfs the whole build completely. Think most of us with this build uses it with non laggy combat in mind, I do at least.

    I can understand you avoiding certain skills, this is why I generally don't use "Undo", but I don't want to avoid a skill completely that works as intended for me 96 shots out a hundred at the very least.

    indeed i agree but to just blame zos for the bug is wrong thats what some here are doing, yes they should fix it, but to say well they have not fixed it means i can use it is wrong, as you know i am norm in the middle of ad and dc so maybe i can swap to skills that dont desync easier

    Yesterday I also realized that one of the most reliable instacast skills in those situations can also get desynched which I didn't want it to do. A couple of us use that skill because it tends to be one of the few skills that works as intended in most of those situations, i e I can weave with it instead of it not firing at all. Unlike ults which I usually don't even attempt to cast as it rarely works when you need it to.

    I tend to mix my fighting up there, so I can get some small scale with less performance issues. The difference between those and large battles (some issues but rare I desynch there) or fighting ball groups (desynch most of the time) is huge.

    yep indeed most issue for desynch comes from fighting a certain 2 ball groups i have found, even other members of mos found they get a slow bug from fighting them

    Same experience for me and the players I run with. It's annoying, especially as it makes synchronizing ults impossible even if you're in VC. On top of this, I can sometimes stun a player, then hit my abilities which show up on my screen as if there's no desynch. But the opposing player stays stunned for 5+ seconds and they're not AFKing, which makes me believe they are either desynched or can't break free since that's a bug as well.

    So there's a lot of issues with Cyro combat, and not really that much improvement from ZOS side. So I get why some players exploit it and why some blame ZOS. I prefer to kill or gank my players without using any bugs to my advantage, I've even apologized to a few after desynch killing them unintentionally.
  • Curious_Death
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    So iv seen a lot of posts about the rez bug , This has been in the game for 6 mouths plus ,
    Poeple are blaming players , when i think zos needs to take more responsabilitty and fix simple bugs faster
    insted they say film it and report it so we can ban them .
    Does this mean poeple exploiting desinks are in the wrong as well.
    Poeple have lost faith in zos, how are poeple meant to care when in my opinon ZOS has shown over and over pvp is
    last thing they care about , Brokon promise after brokon promise.
    Stop blaming the player

    if you use a bug 1-3 then it can be a mistake but if you use reg then its the players fault

    and bug/exploit is just made by PLAYERS? we patched server with untested software? ahhh *** players... as always
  • mairwen85
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    So iv seen a lot of posts about the rez bug , This has been in the game for 6 mouths plus ,
    Poeple are blaming players , when i think zos needs to take more responsabilitty and fix simple bugs faster
    insted they say film it and report it so we can ban them .
    Does this mean poeple exploiting desinks are in the wrong as well.
    Poeple have lost faith in zos, how are poeple meant to care when in my opinon ZOS has shown over and over pvp is
    last thing they care about , Brokon promise after brokon promise.
    Stop blaming the player

    if you use a bug 1-3 then it can be a mistake but if you use reg then its the players fault

    and bug/exploit is just made by PLAYERS? we patched server with untested software? ahhh *** players... as always

    As I said, if it's reported, onus is on ZOS to fix. If they choose not to, or there is a protracted delivery time on the fix, is it justified for players to continue to make use of it? That's the player's choice--but if we choose to, we can't complain if we're punished for it at a later point.
  • redgreensunset
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    mairwen85 wrote: »
    mairwen85 wrote: »
    mairwen85 wrote: »
    So iv seen a lot of posts about the rez bug , This has been in the game for 6 mouths plus ,
    Poeple are blaming players , when i think zos needs to take more responsabilitty and fix simple bugs faster
    insted they say film it and report it so we can ban them .
    Does this mean poeple exploiting desinks are in the wrong as well.
    Poeple have lost faith in zos, how are poeple meant to care when in my opinon ZOS has shown over and over pvp is
    last thing they care about , Brokon promise after brokon promise.
    Stop blaming the player

    if you use a bug 1-3 then it can be a mistake but if you use reg then its the players fault

    So the poeple that desink me over and over , are at fult ? so poeple shouldnt use bow at all is wat your saying or skills with cast times or any ranged skills

    If you know it's a bug and you make use of it to your advantage, that's the definition of exploiting.

    As a player you have the responsibility to report bugs to be fixed, not exploit them for gain and/or teach others to exploit them.

    Onus is on ZOS to fix, but it's on us to ensure it is reported in the first place.

    i agree but 6 mouths to fix a simple bug , dont let poeple group que when dead , i promise u that if this was happing in pve it would be fixed all ready

    There's many PvE bugs that have gone unfixed too. Come on now, don't be that guy. PvE exploits exist too, and people are punished for using them.

    i know that , but im talkg about massive game breaking bugs ,

    And you think those don't exist in PvE? :lol:

    name some that have been in the game for 6 plus mouths

    Vet Frostvault bugs. Which startrd sometime early last year and still haven't been fixed. Last I checked 12 months is far more than 6.
    Edited by redgreensunset on June 19, 2020 10:31AM
  • JonnytheKing
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    mairwen85 wrote: »
    mairwen85 wrote: »
    mairwen85 wrote: »
    So iv seen a lot of posts about the rez bug , This has been in the game for 6 mouths plus ,
    Poeple are blaming players , when i think zos needs to take more responsabilitty and fix simple bugs faster
    insted they say film it and report it so we can ban them .
    Does this mean poeple exploiting desinks are in the wrong as well.
    Poeple have lost faith in zos, how are poeple meant to care when in my opinon ZOS has shown over and over pvp is
    last thing they care about , Brokon promise after brokon promise.
    Stop blaming the player

    if you use a bug 1-3 then it can be a mistake but if you use reg then its the players fault

    So the poeple that desink me over and over , are at fult ? so poeple shouldnt use bow at all is wat your saying or skills with cast times or any ranged skills

    If you know it's a bug and you make use of it to your advantage, that's the definition of exploiting.

    As a player you have the responsibility to report bugs to be fixed, not exploit them for gain and/or teach others to exploit them.

    Onus is on ZOS to fix, but it's on us to ensure it is reported in the first place.

    i agree but 6 mouths to fix a simple bug , dont let poeple group que when dead , i promise u that if this was happing in pve it would be fixed all ready

    There's many PvE bugs that have gone unfixed too. Come on now, don't be that guy. PvE exploits exist too, and people are punished for using them.

    i know that , but im talkg about massive game breaking bugs ,

    And you think those don't exist in PvE? :lol:

    name some that have been in the game for 6 plus mouths

    Vet Frostvault bugs. Which startrd sometime early last year and still haven't been fixed. Last I checked 12 months is far more than 6.

    at the end of the day this is not about pve vs pvp bugs its about the lack of care zos has
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  • technohic
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    So long as the players are using abilities as they are meant to be used, it's not an exploit, just a bug and it's on ZOS. If players are doing unnatural things, unintended to do what they are doing to cause the issue, it's an exploit.

    As an example; snipe ganking is within the mechanics of the game. Sneaking and sniping from stealth and just activating abilities, no matter what order, is intended to be an option for you. If those desync the way THEY still do, it's entirely on ZOS. Being dead, and knowing you are not supposed to be self rezing should be enough, but if not; clearly using group finder or some subsystem in the game menu is not intended to be used while dead for that purpose.

    I think ZOS even has it in their own definition of exploits as "outside their intended use." It gets muddied as I saw the other day, someone I though get stuck in stairs at a resource tower. But then we come back later and the same person is on the flag and when they see someone approaching they'd just run right back through the stairs. They could say " I was just trying to run into the tower" but multiple use and showing that in a video shows intent, which clears things up and I'm sure that's why they ask for it.
    Edited by technohic on June 19, 2020 10:59AM
  • JonnytheKing
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    mairwen85 wrote: »
    So iv seen a lot of posts about the rez bug , This has been in the game for 6 mouths plus ,
    Poeple are blaming players , when i think zos needs to take more responsabilitty and fix simple bugs faster
    insted they say film it and report it so we can ban them .
    Does this mean poeple exploiting desinks are in the wrong as well.
    Poeple have lost faith in zos, how are poeple meant to care when in my opinon ZOS has shown over and over pvp is
    last thing they care about , Brokon promise after brokon promise.
    Stop blaming the player

    if you use a bug 1-3 then it can be a mistake but if you use reg then its the players fault

    and bug/exploit is just made by PLAYERS? we patched server with untested software? ahhh *** players... as always

    As I said, if it's reported, onus is on ZOS to fix. If they choose not to, or there is a protracted delivery time on the fix, is it justified for players to continue to make use of it? That's the player's choice--but if we choose to, we can't complain if we're punished for it at a later point.

    yes and this happens becouse of how crap the pts cicye is handled , zos needs to intise poeple to play the pts withch they dont , low numbers on pts =lots of bugs not getting picked up on ,
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  • JonnytheKing
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    technohic wrote: »
    So long as the players are using abilities as they are meant to be used, it's not an exploit, just a bug and it's on ZOS. If players are doing unnatural things, unintended to do what they are doing to cause the issue, it's an exploit.

    As an example; snipe ganking is within the mechanics of the game. Sneaking and sniping from stealth and just activating abilities, no matter what order, is intended to be an option for you. If those desync the way THEY still do, it's entirely on ZOS. Being dead, and knowing you are not supposed to be self rezing should be enough, but if not; clearly using group finder or some subsystem in the game menu is not intended to be used while dead for that purpose.

    I think ZOS even has it in their own definition of exploits as "outside their intended use."

    but there is poeple exploiting desink sooooo ?
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  • technohic
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    technohic wrote: »
    So long as the players are using abilities as they are meant to be used, it's not an exploit, just a bug and it's on ZOS. If players are doing unnatural things, unintended to do what they are doing to cause the issue, it's an exploit.

    As an example; snipe ganking is within the mechanics of the game. Sneaking and sniping from stealth and just activating abilities, no matter what order, is intended to be an option for you. If those desync the way THEY still do, it's entirely on ZOS. Being dead, and knowing you are not supposed to be self rezing should be enough, but if not; clearly using group finder or some subsystem in the game menu is not intended to be used while dead for that purpose.

    I think ZOS even has it in their own definition of exploits as "outside their intended use."

    but there is poeple exploiting desink sooooo ?

    Are they doing it naturally? I'm not aware how this is done; but see my edit on why they want videos.
  • alainjbrennanb16_ESO
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    So iv seen a lot of posts about the rez bug , This has been in the game for 6 mouths plus ,
    Poeple are blaming players , when i think zos needs to take more responsabilitty and fix simple bugs faster
    insted they say film it and report it so we can ban them .
    Does this mean poeple exploiting desinks are in the wrong as well.
    Poeple have lost faith in zos, how are poeple meant to care when in my opinon ZOS has shown over and over pvp is
    last thing they care about , Brokon promise after brokon promise.
    Stop blaming the player

    if you use a bug 1-3 then it can be a mistake but if you use reg then its the players fault

    and bug/exploit is just made by PLAYERS? we patched server with untested software? ahhh *** players... as always

    please read what i wrote, i never said made by players, but using a bug to give you an unfair advantage is not right, yes they should fix it, but because its broken, it does not give anyone a reason to use it to get an unfair advantage, that why is called a bug exploit, just because its there it does not mean you have to use
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  • pod88kk
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    I think that they would have fixed it by now if they knew how to fix it
  • TineaCruris
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    I'm trying to recall a major bug they have fixed with success and has stayed fixed over time. Can someone help jog my memory?

  • yodased
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    Why this game will never appropriately handle 'cheating' players.

    Player side:

    blame the developers because they don't catch all the exploiters not the exploiters for doing the exploit.

    Developer side:

    Exploits in pvp don't really affect our bottom line and the players still play so let's ride this out and hope we get enough videos to squash it.

    Random observer side:

    This game is buggy a.f. did that dude just insta rez? In out.

    Whale side:
    Would you like some of my money for this shiney?


    Guess which one matters
    Tl;dr really weigh the fun you have in game vs the business practices you are supporting.
  • Ackwalan
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    Ackwalan wrote: »
    Stop making excuses for cheating. If you didn't cheat you have no worry about any ban.

    This happens every time people get caught exploiting. They start making excuses and pointing fingers. As for comparing this exploit to desynch. That's just an attempt to shift blame.

    lol no its not , im sick of zos not careing and shifting blame to the player , yes the player is at fult but poeple will be poeple , at the end of the day zos needs to take the right actions and they just are not, and thats why poeple dont care and abuse the game

    Keep on abusing it, sooner or later the choice will be removed for you.

  • BlueRaven
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    mairwen85 wrote: »
    So iv seen a lot of posts about the rez bug , This has been in the game for 6 mouths plus ,
    Poeple are blaming players , when i think zos needs to take more responsabilitty and fix simple bugs faster
    insted they say film it and report it so we can ban them .
    Does this mean poeple exploiting desinks are in the wrong as well.
    Poeple have lost faith in zos, how are poeple meant to care when in my opinon ZOS has shown over and over pvp is
    last thing they care about , Brokon promise after brokon promise.
    Stop blaming the player

    if you use a bug 1-3 then it can be a mistake but if you use reg then its the players fault

    So the poeple that desink me over and over , are at fult ? so poeple shouldnt use bow at all is wat your saying or skills with cast times or any ranged skills

    If you know it's a bug and you make use of it to your advantage, that's the definition of exploiting.

    As a player you have the responsibility to report bugs to be fixed, not exploit them for gain and/or teach others to exploit them.

    Onus is on ZOS to fix, but it's on us to ensure it is reported in the first place.

    i agree but 6 mouths to fix a simple bug , dont let poeple group que when dead , i promise u that if this was happing in pve it would be fixed all ready

    Here is a bug that was first reported in October of last year.

    https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/497668/spontaneous-logging-out-of-computer-user-in-macos-catalina/p1

    Using a wayshrine going to northern or southern elsweyr or western Skyrim has a excellent chance of restarting the os. Not the game client, the entire base system.

    Still not fixed.

    In fact the whole “Mac Technical Support” forum is fairly useless unless you are looking to contact other players to see if they can help.
  • Sanctum74
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    The suggestion that people just don’t use skills that cause desync is crazy. All skills in the game can cause desyncs, including light attacks and even seige. That doesn’t leave many options open except heals and buffs.

    People need to stop making excuses for Zos. Like the old saying goes don’t hate the player, hate the game.
  • JamieAubrey
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    Sanctum74 wrote: »
    The suggestion that people just don’t use skills that cause desync is crazy. All skills in the game can cause desyncs, including light attacks and even seige. That doesn’t leave many options open except heals and buffs.

    People need to stop making excuses for Zos. Like the old saying goes don’t hate the player, hate the game.

    YES, Everyone should be in each others face throwing punches
  • gatekeeper13
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    name some that have been in the game for 6 plus mouths

    Getting stuck in walls (Crypt of Hearts). Doors not opening. (Wayrest Sewers). Crashes at last boss (Maw of Lorkhaj, Frostvault). Weapons stuck under your feet after weapon swap. Bugged group finder.

    And many more.
    Edited by gatekeeper13 on June 19, 2020 2:09PM
  • soniku4ikblis
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    For the love of Odin, ZOS, please, fix this 0 stamina recovery bug that only happens while in Cyro.

    Please.....
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  • JonnytheKing
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    Sanctum74 wrote: »
    The suggestion that people just don’t use skills that cause desync is crazy. All skills in the game can cause desyncs, including light attacks and even seige. That doesn’t leave many options open except heals and buffs.

    People need to stop making excuses for Zos. Like the old saying goes don’t hate the player, hate the game.

    thats my point
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  • JonnytheKing
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    Ackwalan wrote: »
    Ackwalan wrote: »
    Stop making excuses for cheating. If you didn't cheat you have no worry about any ban.

    This happens every time people get caught exploiting. They start making excuses and pointing fingers. As for comparing this exploit to desynch. That's just an attempt to shift blame.

    lol no its not , im sick of zos not careing and shifting blame to the player , yes the player is at fult but poeple will be poeple , at the end of the day zos needs to take the right actions and they just are not, and thats why poeple dont care and abuse the game

    Keep on abusing it, sooner or later the choice will be removed for you.

    once agian missing the point
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  • JonnytheKing
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    pod88kk wrote: »
    I think that they would have fixed it by now if they knew how to fix it

    lol u really think that ,
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  • Ashtaris
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    mairwen85 wrote: »
    So iv seen a lot of posts about the rez bug , This has been in the game for 6 mouths plus ,
    Poeple are blaming players , when i think zos needs to take more responsabilitty and fix simple bugs faster
    insted they say film it and report it so we can ban them .
    Does this mean poeple exploiting desinks are in the wrong as well.
    Poeple have lost faith in zos, how are poeple meant to care when in my opinon ZOS has shown over and over pvp is
    last thing they care about , Brokon promise after brokon promise.
    Stop blaming the player

    if you use a bug 1-3 then it can be a mistake but if you use reg then its the players fault

    So the poeple that desink me over and over , are at fult ? so poeple shouldnt use bow at all is wat your saying or skills with cast times or any ranged skills

    If you know it's a bug and you make use of it to your advantage, that's the definition of exploiting.

    As a player you have the responsibility to report bugs to be fixed, not exploit them for gain and/or teach others to exploit them.

    Onus is on ZOS to fix, but it's on us to ensure it is reported in the first place.

    i agree but 6 mouths to fix a simple bug , dont let poeple group que when dead , i promise u that if this was happing in pve it would be fixed all ready

    Hahaha, you really believe that? I can guarantee you that we have had bugs in PVE that hasn’t been fixed since the game was released. Now if you would have said “Crown Store”, then I would probably agree with you.

  • mairwen85
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    mairwen85 wrote: »
    mairwen85 wrote: »
    mairwen85 wrote: »
    So iv seen a lot of posts about the rez bug , This has been in the game for 6 mouths plus ,
    Poeple are blaming players , when i think zos needs to take more responsabilitty and fix simple bugs faster
    insted they say film it and report it so we can ban them .
    Does this mean poeple exploiting desinks are in the wrong as well.
    Poeple have lost faith in zos, how are poeple meant to care when in my opinon ZOS has shown over and over pvp is
    last thing they care about , Brokon promise after brokon promise.
    Stop blaming the player

    if you use a bug 1-3 then it can be a mistake but if you use reg then its the players fault

    So the poeple that desink me over and over , are at fult ? so poeple shouldnt use bow at all is wat your saying or skills with cast times or any ranged skills

    If you know it's a bug and you make use of it to your advantage, that's the definition of exploiting.

    As a player you have the responsibility to report bugs to be fixed, not exploit them for gain and/or teach others to exploit them.

    Onus is on ZOS to fix, but it's on us to ensure it is reported in the first place.

    i agree but 6 mouths to fix a simple bug , dont let poeple group que when dead , i promise u that if this was happing in pve it would be fixed all ready

    There's many PvE bugs that have gone unfixed too. Come on now, don't be that guy. PvE exploits exist too, and people are punished for using them.

    i know that , but im talkg about massive game breaking bugs ,

    And you think those don't exist in PvE? :lol:

    name some that have been in the game for 6 plus mouths

    Vet Frostvault bugs. Which startrd sometime early last year and still haven't been fixed. Last I checked 12 months is far more than 6.

    at the end of the day this is not about pve vs pvp bugs its about the lack of care zos has

    But you brought the argument that pve bugs are always fixed. You guaranteed that if a bug or exploit such as those experienced in pvp existed in pve, it would be fixed immediately. Now, I agree that in the entire scope, ZOS appear to have quite a lacks response to bugs (I don't know, and won't pretend to know what their process is) and I'm happy to see you concede that point rather than make this yet another petulant pve vs pvp thread.

    They do need to step it up, and take action wrt exploits and close them ASAP wherever reported.
    Edited by mairwen85 on June 20, 2020 2:17PM
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    Ackwalan wrote: »
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    Stop making excuses for cheating. If you didn't cheat you have no worry about any ban.

    This happens every time people get caught exploiting. They start making excuses and pointing fingers. As for comparing this exploit to desynch. That's just an attempt to shift blame.

    lol no its not , im sick of zos not careing and shifting blame to the player , yes the player is at fult but poeple will be poeple , at the end of the day zos needs to take the right actions and they just are not, and thats why poeple dont care and abuse the game

    Keep on abusing it, sooner or later the choice will be removed for you.

    once agian missing the point

    Yes you are missing the point. An exploit does not become not cheating just because it is still in game after a certain date.
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    I have little faith in their ability to fix anything any more.

    Endless load screens, lag, hell even guild stores are timing out.

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    Guys, I would like your opinion on sth I noticed yesterday.

    Does an exploit/bug exist that helps you climb keep walls or get through them?

    Why I am asking? Cause I noticed sth very strange yesterday. There was a siege and 2 NB's, after the MG was opened, managed to pass through and get on the walls. I went to fight them, managed to kill the one and magnum shot the other from the walls. I saw him falling down. Since the other guy was alone and dead, I guessed there was no one else around that could rez him. So I left. But seconds later, as I looked behind, I saw the other NB I threw from the walls rez him and they both run and got inside the closest tower. There is absolutely not 1/1.000.000 that the second NB had the time to run around the keep and enter through the MG again.

    Is sth like that possible? Or was I mistaken and there was a 3rd NB around that looked like the other one?
    Edited by gatekeeper13 on June 21, 2020 8:53AM
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    Guys, I would like your opinion on sth I noticed yesterday.

    Does an exploit/bug exist that helps you climb keep walls or get through them?

    Why I am asking? Cause I noticed sth very strange yesterday. There was a siege and 2 NB's, after the MG was opened, managed to pass through and get on the walls. I went to fight them, managed to kill the one and magnum shot the other from the walls. I saw him falling down. Since the other guy was alone and dead, I guessed there was no one else around that could rez him. So I left. But seconds later, as I looked behind, I saw the other NB I threw from the walls rez him and they both run and got inside the closest tower. There is absolutely not 1/1.000.000 that the second NB had the time to run around the keep and enter through the MG again.

    Is sth like that possible? Or was I mistaken and there was a 3rd NB around that looked like the other one?

    The NB could have had their Shade put up there, by activating it again he/she gets back to where it was. Same can be done with Undo (when it works) but with smaller time frame. But works even from mid air while dropping down from wall, when not laggy atleast - you get back to where you were (up in the wall in this case).

    So always before thinking of exploit.. think about the legit ways of it being possible. As a one who plays NB a lot, i know of these things, one can use Shade/Undo and be trollish when others jump down after you, but you get back up and have a laugh. :p

    Also.. about Magnum Shot. You know how many times it does push people inside buildings and structures so they get stuck there, and can occasionally find a way then to get out inside the wall or floor by some point in the structure that allows you to jump or dodge roll out.

    I have been personally Magnum Shot to inside floor or wall way too many times. :|
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