BUGS and EXPLOITS its a JOKE how its dealt with

JonnytheKing

So iv seen a lot of posts about the rez bug , This has been in the game for 6 mouths plus ,
Poeple are blaming players , when i think zos needs to take more responsabilitty and fix simple bugs faster
insted they say film it and report it so we can ban them .
Does this mean poeple exploiting desinks are in the wrong as well.
Poeple have lost faith in zos, how are poeple meant to care when in my opinon ZOS has shown over and over pvp is
last thing they care about , Brokon promise after brokon promise.
Stop blaming the player

DCZergNoob

This

alainjbrennanb16_ESO

JonnytheKing wrote: »

So iv seen a lot of posts about the rez bug , This has been in the game for 6 mouths plus ,
Poeple are blaming players , when i think zos needs to take more responsabilitty and fix simple bugs faster
insted they say film it and report it so we can ban them .
Does this mean poeple exploiting desinks are in the wrong as well.
Poeple have lost faith in zos, how are poeple meant to care when in my opinon ZOS has shown over and over pvp is
last thing they care about , Brokon promise after brokon promise.
Stop blaming the player

if you use a bug 1-3 then it can be a mistake but if you use reg then its the players fault

JonnytheKing

alainjbrennanb16_ESO wrote: »

JonnytheKing wrote: »

So iv seen a lot of posts about the rez bug , This has been in the game for 6 mouths plus ,
Poeple are blaming players , when i think zos needs to take more responsabilitty and fix simple bugs faster
insted they say film it and report it so we can ban them .
Does this mean poeple exploiting desinks are in the wrong as well.
Poeple have lost faith in zos, how are poeple meant to care when in my opinon ZOS has shown over and over pvp is
last thing they care about , Brokon promise after brokon promise.
Stop blaming the player

if you use a bug 1-3 then it can be a mistake but if you use reg then its the players fault

So the poeple that desink me over and over , are at fult ? so poeple shouldnt use bow at all is wat your saying or skills with cast times or any ranged skills

mairwen85

JonnytheKing wrote: »

alainjbrennanb16_ESO wrote: »

JonnytheKing wrote: »

So iv seen a lot of posts about the rez bug , This has been in the game for 6 mouths plus ,
Poeple are blaming players , when i think zos needs to take more responsabilitty and fix simple bugs faster
insted they say film it and report it so we can ban them .
Does this mean poeple exploiting desinks are in the wrong as well.
Poeple have lost faith in zos, how are poeple meant to care when in my opinon ZOS has shown over and over pvp is
last thing they care about , Brokon promise after brokon promise.
Stop blaming the player

if you use a bug 1-3 then it can be a mistake but if you use reg then its the players fault

So the poeple that desink me over and over , are at fult ? so poeple shouldnt use bow at all is wat your saying or skills with cast times or any ranged skills

If you know it's a bug and you make use of it to your advantage, that's the definition of exploiting.

As a player you have the responsibility to report bugs to be fixed, not exploit them for gain and/or teach others to exploit them.

Onus is on ZOS to fix, but it's on us to ensure it is reported in the first place.

alainjbrennanb16_ESO

JonnytheKing wrote: »

alainjbrennanb16_ESO wrote: »

JonnytheKing wrote: »

So iv seen a lot of posts about the rez bug , This has been in the game for 6 mouths plus ,
Poeple are blaming players , when i think zos needs to take more responsabilitty and fix simple bugs faster
insted they say film it and report it so we can ban them .
Does this mean poeple exploiting desinks are in the wrong as well.
Poeple have lost faith in zos, how are poeple meant to care when in my opinon ZOS has shown over and over pvp is
last thing they care about , Brokon promise after brokon promise.
Stop blaming the player

if you use a bug 1-3 then it can be a mistake but if you use reg then its the players fault

So the poeple that desink me over and over , are at fult ? so poeple shouldnt use bow at all is wat your saying or skills with cast times or any ranged skills

if you use a bug over and over and know its a bug its the players fault

JonnytheKing

mairwen85 wrote: »

JonnytheKing wrote: »

alainjbrennanb16_ESO wrote: »

JonnytheKing wrote: »

So iv seen a lot of posts about the rez bug , This has been in the game for 6 mouths plus ,
Poeple are blaming players , when i think zos needs to take more responsabilitty and fix simple bugs faster
insted they say film it and report it so we can ban them .
Does this mean poeple exploiting desinks are in the wrong as well.
Poeple have lost faith in zos, how are poeple meant to care when in my opinon ZOS has shown over and over pvp is
last thing they care about , Brokon promise after brokon promise.
Stop blaming the player

if you use a bug 1-3 then it can be a mistake but if you use reg then its the players fault

So the poeple that desink me over and over , are at fult ? so poeple shouldnt use bow at all is wat your saying or skills with cast times or any ranged skills

If you know it's a bug and you make use of it to your advantage, that's the definition of exploiting.

As a player you have the responsibility to report bugs to be fixed, not exploit them for gain and/or teach others to exploit them.

Onus is on ZOS to fix, but it's on us to ensure it is reported in the first place.

i agree but 6 mouths to fix a simple bug , dont let poeple group que when dead , i promise u that if this was happing in pve it would be fixed all ready

mairwen85

JonnytheKing wrote: »

mairwen85 wrote: »

JonnytheKing wrote: »

alainjbrennanb16_ESO wrote: »

JonnytheKing wrote: »

So iv seen a lot of posts about the rez bug , This has been in the game for 6 mouths plus ,
Poeple are blaming players , when i think zos needs to take more responsabilitty and fix simple bugs faster
insted they say film it and report it so we can ban them .
Does this mean poeple exploiting desinks are in the wrong as well.
Poeple have lost faith in zos, how are poeple meant to care when in my opinon ZOS has shown over and over pvp is
last thing they care about , Brokon promise after brokon promise.
Stop blaming the player

if you use a bug 1-3 then it can be a mistake but if you use reg then its the players fault

So the poeple that desink me over and over , are at fult ? so poeple shouldnt use bow at all is wat your saying or skills with cast times or any ranged skills

If you know it's a bug and you make use of it to your advantage, that's the definition of exploiting.

As a player you have the responsibility to report bugs to be fixed, not exploit them for gain and/or teach others to exploit them.

Onus is on ZOS to fix, but it's on us to ensure it is reported in the first place.

i agree but 6 mouths to fix a simple bug , dont let poeple group que when dead , i promise u that if this was happing in pve it would be fixed all ready

There's many PvE bugs that have gone unfixed too. Come on now, don't be that guy. PvE exploits exist too, and people are punished for using them.

JonnytheKing

mairwen85 wrote: »

JonnytheKing wrote: »

mairwen85 wrote: »

JonnytheKing wrote: »

alainjbrennanb16_ESO wrote: »

JonnytheKing wrote: »

So iv seen a lot of posts about the rez bug , This has been in the game for 6 mouths plus ,
Poeple are blaming players , when i think zos needs to take more responsabilitty and fix simple bugs faster
insted they say film it and report it so we can ban them .
Does this mean poeple exploiting desinks are in the wrong as well.
Poeple have lost faith in zos, how are poeple meant to care when in my opinon ZOS has shown over and over pvp is
last thing they care about , Brokon promise after brokon promise.
Stop blaming the player

if you use a bug 1-3 then it can be a mistake but if you use reg then its the players fault

So the poeple that desink me over and over , are at fult ? so poeple shouldnt use bow at all is wat your saying or skills with cast times or any ranged skills

If you know it's a bug and you make use of it to your advantage, that's the definition of exploiting.

As a player you have the responsibility to report bugs to be fixed, not exploit them for gain and/or teach others to exploit them.

Onus is on ZOS to fix, but it's on us to ensure it is reported in the first place.

i agree but 6 mouths to fix a simple bug , dont let poeple group que when dead , i promise u that if this was happing in pve it would be fixed all ready

There's many PvE bugs that have gone unfixed too. Come on now, don't be that guy. PvE exploits exist too, and people are punished for using them.

i know that , but im talkg about massive game breaking bugs ,

mairwen85

JonnytheKing wrote: »

mairwen85 wrote: »

JonnytheKing wrote: »

mairwen85 wrote: »

JonnytheKing wrote: »

alainjbrennanb16_ESO wrote: »

JonnytheKing wrote: »

So iv seen a lot of posts about the rez bug , This has been in the game for 6 mouths plus ,
Poeple are blaming players , when i think zos needs to take more responsabilitty and fix simple bugs faster
insted they say film it and report it so we can ban them .
Does this mean poeple exploiting desinks are in the wrong as well.
Poeple have lost faith in zos, how are poeple meant to care when in my opinon ZOS has shown over and over pvp is
last thing they care about , Brokon promise after brokon promise.
Stop blaming the player

if you use a bug 1-3 then it can be a mistake but if you use reg then its the players fault

So the poeple that desink me over and over , are at fult ? so poeple shouldnt use bow at all is wat your saying or skills with cast times or any ranged skills

If you know it's a bug and you make use of it to your advantage, that's the definition of exploiting.

As a player you have the responsibility to report bugs to be fixed, not exploit them for gain and/or teach others to exploit them.

Onus is on ZOS to fix, but it's on us to ensure it is reported in the first place.

i agree but 6 mouths to fix a simple bug , dont let poeple group que when dead , i promise u that if this was happing in pve it would be fixed all ready

There's many PvE bugs that have gone unfixed too. Come on now, don't be that guy. PvE exploits exist too, and people are punished for using them.

i know that , but im talkg about massive game breaking bugs ,

And you think those don't exist in PvE?

JonnytheKing

mairwen85 wrote: »

JonnytheKing wrote: »

mairwen85 wrote: »

JonnytheKing wrote: »

mairwen85 wrote: »

JonnytheKing wrote: »

alainjbrennanb16_ESO wrote: »

JonnytheKing wrote: »

So iv seen a lot of posts about the rez bug , This has been in the game for 6 mouths plus ,
Poeple are blaming players , when i think zos needs to take more responsabilitty and fix simple bugs faster
insted they say film it and report it so we can ban them .
Does this mean poeple exploiting desinks are in the wrong as well.
Poeple have lost faith in zos, how are poeple meant to care when in my opinon ZOS has shown over and over pvp is
last thing they care about , Brokon promise after brokon promise.
Stop blaming the player

if you use a bug 1-3 then it can be a mistake but if you use reg then its the players fault

So the poeple that desink me over and over , are at fult ? so poeple shouldnt use bow at all is wat your saying or skills with cast times or any ranged skills

If you know it's a bug and you make use of it to your advantage, that's the definition of exploiting.

As a player you have the responsibility to report bugs to be fixed, not exploit them for gain and/or teach others to exploit them.

Onus is on ZOS to fix, but it's on us to ensure it is reported in the first place.

i agree but 6 mouths to fix a simple bug , dont let poeple group que when dead , i promise u that if this was happing in pve it would be fixed all ready

There's many PvE bugs that have gone unfixed too. Come on now, don't be that guy. PvE exploits exist too, and people are punished for using them.

i know that , but im talkg about massive game breaking bugs ,

And you think those don't exist in PvE?

name some that have been in the game for 6 plus mouths

mairwen85

JonnytheKing wrote: »

mairwen85 wrote: »

JonnytheKing wrote: »

mairwen85 wrote: »

JonnytheKing wrote: »

mairwen85 wrote: »

JonnytheKing wrote: »

alainjbrennanb16_ESO wrote: »

JonnytheKing wrote: »

So iv seen a lot of posts about the rez bug , This has been in the game for 6 mouths plus ,
Poeple are blaming players , when i think zos needs to take more responsabilitty and fix simple bugs faster
insted they say film it and report it so we can ban them .
Does this mean poeple exploiting desinks are in the wrong as well.
Poeple have lost faith in zos, how are poeple meant to care when in my opinon ZOS has shown over and over pvp is
last thing they care about , Brokon promise after brokon promise.
Stop blaming the player

if you use a bug 1-3 then it can be a mistake but if you use reg then its the players fault

So the poeple that desink me over and over , are at fult ? so poeple shouldnt use bow at all is wat your saying or skills with cast times or any ranged skills

If you know it's a bug and you make use of it to your advantage, that's the definition of exploiting.

As a player you have the responsibility to report bugs to be fixed, not exploit them for gain and/or teach others to exploit them.

Onus is on ZOS to fix, but it's on us to ensure it is reported in the first place.

i agree but 6 mouths to fix a simple bug , dont let poeple group que when dead , i promise u that if this was happing in pve it would be fixed all ready

There's many PvE bugs that have gone unfixed too. Come on now, don't be that guy. PvE exploits exist too, and people are punished for using them.

i know that , but im talkg about massive game breaking bugs ,

And you think those don't exist in PvE?

name some that have been in the game for 6 plus mouths

There's a thread somewhere with a list of bugs that have existed since launch.

JonnytheKing

its anko

DCZergNoob wrote: »

This

yes

zvavi

alainjbrennanb16_ESO wrote: »

JonnytheKing wrote: »

alainjbrennanb16_ESO wrote: »

JonnytheKing wrote: »

So iv seen a lot of posts about the rez bug , This has been in the game for 6 mouths plus ,
Poeple are blaming players , when i think zos needs to take more responsabilitty and fix simple bugs faster
insted they say film it and report it so we can ban them .
Does this mean poeple exploiting desinks are in the wrong as well.
Poeple have lost faith in zos, how are poeple meant to care when in my opinon ZOS has shown over and over pvp is
last thing they care about , Brokon promise after brokon promise.
Stop blaming the player

if you use a bug 1-3 then it can be a mistake but if you use reg then its the players fault

So the poeple that desink me over and over , are at fult ? so poeple shouldnt use bow at all is wat your saying or skills with cast times or any ranged skills

if you use a bug over and over and know its a bug its the players fault

So you are saying that you are not allowed to use cast time skills in PvP at all?

Dusk_Coven

mairwen85 wrote: »

There's many PvE bugs that have gone unfixed too. Come on now, don't be that guy. PvE exploits exist too, and people are punished for using them.

Still waiting for proof from ZOS that they did punish anyone. Not names but just stats would be nice.

mairwen85

Dusk_Coven wrote: »

mairwen85 wrote: »

There's many PvE bugs that have gone unfixed too. Come on now, don't be that guy. PvE exploits exist too, and people are punished for using them.

Still waiting for proof from ZOS that they did punish anyone. Not names but just stats would be nice.

Didn't they publicly confirm they suspended 1000+ and permanently banned 117 accounts for the vAS HM exploit?

Bucky_13

mairwen85 wrote: »

JonnytheKing wrote: »

alainjbrennanb16_ESO wrote: »

JonnytheKing wrote: »

So iv seen a lot of posts about the rez bug , This has been in the game for 6 mouths plus ,
Poeple are blaming players , when i think zos needs to take more responsabilitty and fix simple bugs faster
insted they say film it and report it so we can ban them .
Does this mean poeple exploiting desinks are in the wrong as well.
Poeple have lost faith in zos, how are poeple meant to care when in my opinon ZOS has shown over and over pvp is
last thing they care about , Brokon promise after brokon promise.
Stop blaming the player

if you use a bug 1-3 then it can be a mistake but if you use reg then its the players fault

So the poeple that desink me over and over , are at fult ? so poeple shouldnt use bow at all is wat your saying or skills with cast times or any ranged skills

If you know it's a bug and you make use of it to your advantage, that's the definition of exploiting.

As a player you have the responsibility to report bugs to be fixed, not exploit them for gain and/or teach others to exploit them.

Onus is on ZOS to fix, but it's on us to ensure it is reported in the first place.

Except with bow desynch kills, it happens without you even trying a lot of times.

When the ZOS hamsters are running smoothly, you can use those skills is a somewhat spammy rotation and they work as intended. This is what I prefer as I this is the more fun kind of PvP combat. Sometimes a ZOS hamster trips and you have lots of lags and desynchs, you use the same skill as before in the same spammy rotation only now you hit an enemy player with 4-6 hits at the same time after a few seconds and often instakill them.

The only option to not do the desynch kills in those cases would be to stop trying to kill your enemies, which isn't why most of us do PvP. Most of the times when I end up killing an enemy player with desynch, I spend a few seconds being annoyed that nothing works, then I go "oh right" when I suddenly kill someone with a bunch of shots at the same time and remember that Cyro combat sometimes is awful and buggy.

Ackwalan

Stop making excuses for cheating. If you didn't cheat you have no worry about any ban.

This happens every time people get caught exploiting. They start making excuses and pointing fingers. As for comparing this exploit to desynch. That's just an attempt to shift blame.

TineaCruris

mairwen85 wrote: »

JonnytheKing wrote: »

alainjbrennanb16_ESO wrote: »

JonnytheKing wrote: »

So iv seen a lot of posts about the rez bug , This has been in the game for 6 mouths plus ,
Poeple are blaming players , when i think zos needs to take more responsabilitty and fix simple bugs faster
insted they say film it and report it so we can ban them .
Does this mean poeple exploiting desinks are in the wrong as well.
Poeple have lost faith in zos, how are poeple meant to care when in my opinon ZOS has shown over and over pvp is
last thing they care about , Brokon promise after brokon promise.
Stop blaming the player

if you use a bug 1-3 then it can be a mistake but if you use reg then its the players fault

So the poeple that desink me over and over , are at fult ? so poeple shouldnt use bow at all is wat your saying or skills with cast times or any ranged skills

If you know it's a bug and you make use of it to your advantage, that's the definition of exploiting.

As a player you have the responsibility to report bugs to be fixed, not exploit them for gain and/or teach others to exploit them.

Onus is on ZOS to fix, but it's on us to ensure it is reported in the first place.

Reported thousands of times, over and over again. That's why so many are so frustrated about so many issues across the board that are not getting fixed.

kargen27

JonnytheKing wrote: »

mairwen85 wrote: »

JonnytheKing wrote: »

mairwen85 wrote: »

JonnytheKing wrote: »

mairwen85 wrote: »

JonnytheKing wrote: »

alainjbrennanb16_ESO wrote: »

JonnytheKing wrote: »

So iv seen a lot of posts about the rez bug , This has been in the game for 6 mouths plus ,
Poeple are blaming players , when i think zos needs to take more responsabilitty and fix simple bugs faster
insted they say film it and report it so we can ban them .
Does this mean poeple exploiting desinks are in the wrong as well.
Poeple have lost faith in zos, how are poeple meant to care when in my opinon ZOS has shown over and over pvp is
last thing they care about , Brokon promise after brokon promise.
Stop blaming the player

if you use a bug 1-3 then it can be a mistake but if you use reg then its the players fault

So the poeple that desink me over and over , are at fult ? so poeple shouldnt use bow at all is wat your saying or skills with cast times or any ranged skills

If you know it's a bug and you make use of it to your advantage, that's the definition of exploiting.

As a player you have the responsibility to report bugs to be fixed, not exploit them for gain and/or teach others to exploit them.

Onus is on ZOS to fix, but it's on us to ensure it is reported in the first place.

i agree but 6 mouths to fix a simple bug , dont let poeple group que when dead , i promise u that if this was happing in pve it would be fixed all ready

There's many PvE bugs that have gone unfixed too. Come on now, don't be that guy. PvE exploits exist too, and people are punished for using them.

i know that , but im talkg about massive game breaking bugs ,

And you think those don't exist in PvE?

name some that have been in the game for 6 plus mouths

Getting stuck in a wall or the floor of a dungeon. Door not opening so dungeon can't be completed.

daemonios

Launch day duplication exploits didn't result in bans or removal of duped items. Months of underdog bonus abuse for campaign flipping never got an official response or action. PC-EU guilds stockpiled forward camps by exploiting the fact that EU servers hadn't gone down for maintenance when news hit they were being removed from vendors and were left untouched and free to use. Flagrant abuse of cheat engine got some players banned, then unbanned, with zero official statement. The rule is ZOS don't talk about cheating, or cheaters. Don't expect this to change.

alainjbrennanb16_ESO

zvavi wrote: »

alainjbrennanb16_ESO wrote: »

JonnytheKing wrote: »

alainjbrennanb16_ESO wrote: »

JonnytheKing wrote: »

So iv seen a lot of posts about the rez bug , This has been in the game for 6 mouths plus ,
Poeple are blaming players , when i think zos needs to take more responsabilitty and fix simple bugs faster
insted they say film it and report it so we can ban them .
Does this mean poeple exploiting desinks are in the wrong as well.
Poeple have lost faith in zos, how are poeple meant to care when in my opinon ZOS has shown over and over pvp is
last thing they care about , Brokon promise after brokon promise.
Stop blaming the player

if you use a bug 1-3 then it can be a mistake but if you use reg then its the players fault

So the poeple that desink me over and over , are at fult ? so poeple shouldnt use bow at all is wat your saying or skills with cast times or any ranged skills

if you use a bug over and over and know its a bug its the players fault

So you are saying that you are not allowed to use cast time skills in PvP at all?

what!!! please dont try and put words in my mouth, if you know a skill can be expolited then dont use it, or use it that is ur risk, but to state i use it because the game is broken is no excuse, use skills that dont or cant be expolited, i dont use on my pvp character vanikfar whitestrike in non cp ep, i changed skills to stop make sure i did not expolit a bug, but if you want to use and possible recieve a ban go ahead, but to use a bug is giving peeps and unfair advantage on others who are not using it

alainjbrennanb16_ESO

Bucky_13 wrote: »

mairwen85 wrote: »

JonnytheKing wrote: »

alainjbrennanb16_ESO wrote: »

JonnytheKing wrote: »

So iv seen a lot of posts about the rez bug , This has been in the game for 6 mouths plus ,
Poeple are blaming players , when i think zos needs to take more responsabilitty and fix simple bugs faster
insted they say film it and report it so we can ban them .
Does this mean poeple exploiting desinks are in the wrong as well.
Poeple have lost faith in zos, how are poeple meant to care when in my opinon ZOS has shown over and over pvp is
last thing they care about , Brokon promise after brokon promise.
Stop blaming the player

if you use a bug 1-3 then it can be a mistake but if you use reg then its the players fault

So the poeple that desink me over and over , are at fult ? so poeple shouldnt use bow at all is wat your saying or skills with cast times or any ranged skills

If you know it's a bug and you make use of it to your advantage, that's the definition of exploiting.

As a player you have the responsibility to report bugs to be fixed, not exploit them for gain and/or teach others to exploit them.

Onus is on ZOS to fix, but it's on us to ensure it is reported in the first place.

Except with bow desynch kills, it happens without you even trying a lot of times.

When the ZOS hamsters are running smoothly, you can use those skills is a somewhat spammy rotation and they work as intended. This is what I prefer as I this is the more fun kind of PvP combat. Sometimes a ZOS hamster trips and you have lots of lags and desynchs, you use the same skill as before in the same spammy rotation only now you hit an enemy player with 4-6 hits at the same time after a few seconds and often instakill them.

The only option to not do the desynch kills in those cases would be to stop trying to kill your enemies, which isn't why most of us do PvP. Most of the times when I end up killing an enemy player with desynch, I spend a few seconds being annoyed that nothing works, then I go "oh right" when I suddenly kill someone with a bunch of shots at the same time and remember that Cyro combat sometimes is awful and buggy.

bow desynch mainly come from a sneak postion bucky which if i remember correctly that how you play

Bucky_13

alainjbrennanb16_ESO wrote: »

Bucky_13 wrote: »

mairwen85 wrote: »

JonnytheKing wrote: »

alainjbrennanb16_ESO wrote: »

JonnytheKing wrote: »

So iv seen a lot of posts about the rez bug , This has been in the game for 6 mouths plus ,
Poeple are blaming players , when i think zos needs to take more responsabilitty and fix simple bugs faster
insted they say film it and report it so we can ban them .
Does this mean poeple exploiting desinks are in the wrong as well.
Poeple have lost faith in zos, how are poeple meant to care when in my opinon ZOS has shown over and over pvp is
last thing they care about , Brokon promise after brokon promise.
Stop blaming the player

if you use a bug 1-3 then it can be a mistake but if you use reg then its the players fault

So the poeple that desink me over and over , are at fult ? so poeple shouldnt use bow at all is wat your saying or skills with cast times or any ranged skills

If you know it's a bug and you make use of it to your advantage, that's the definition of exploiting.

As a player you have the responsibility to report bugs to be fixed, not exploit them for gain and/or teach others to exploit them.

Onus is on ZOS to fix, but it's on us to ensure it is reported in the first place.

Except with bow desynch kills, it happens without you even trying a lot of times.

When the ZOS hamsters are running smoothly, you can use those skills is a somewhat spammy rotation and they work as intended. This is what I prefer as I this is the more fun kind of PvP combat. Sometimes a ZOS hamster trips and you have lots of lags and desynchs, you use the same skill as before in the same spammy rotation only now you hit an enemy player with 4-6 hits at the same time after a few seconds and often instakill them.

The only option to not do the desynch kills in those cases would be to stop trying to kill your enemies, which isn't why most of us do PvP. Most of the times when I end up killing an enemy player with desynch, I spend a few seconds being annoyed that nothing works, then I go "oh right" when I suddenly kill someone with a bunch of shots at the same time and remember that Cyro combat sometimes is awful and buggy.

bow desynch mainly come from a sneak postion bucky which if i remember correctly that how you play

Mainly yes, but I had a lot of non sneak kills as well from that. I've gotten less desynch kills recently, but that has more to do with me getting tired of using a skill in laggy fights that either doesn't work at all or produce a desynch kill, and rarely works as it should in lag. Prefer skills that work more reliably in those situations.

Bucky_13

alainjbrennanb16_ESO wrote: »

zvavi wrote: »

alainjbrennanb16_ESO wrote: »

JonnytheKing wrote: »

alainjbrennanb16_ESO wrote: »

JonnytheKing wrote: »

So iv seen a lot of posts about the rez bug , This has been in the game for 6 mouths plus ,
Poeple are blaming players , when i think zos needs to take more responsabilitty and fix simple bugs faster
insted they say film it and report it so we can ban them .
Does this mean poeple exploiting desinks are in the wrong as well.
Poeple have lost faith in zos, how are poeple meant to care when in my opinon ZOS has shown over and over pvp is
last thing they care about , Brokon promise after brokon promise.
Stop blaming the player

if you use a bug 1-3 then it can be a mistake but if you use reg then its the players fault

So the poeple that desink me over and over , are at fult ? so poeple shouldnt use bow at all is wat your saying or skills with cast times or any ranged skills

if you use a bug over and over and know its a bug its the players fault

So you are saying that you are not allowed to use cast time skills in PvP at all?

what!!! please dont try and put words in my mouth, if you know a skill can be expolited then dont use it, or use it that is ur risk, but to state i use it because the game is broken is no excuse, use skills that dont or cant be expolited, i dont use on my pvp character vanikfar whitestrike in non cp ep, i changed skills to stop make sure i did not expolit a bug, but if you want to use and possible recieve a ban go ahead, but to use a bug is giving peeps and unfair advantage on others who are not using it

Since we both play on the same campaign and same side, I know we have similar experiences with performance. There are some exploits that are more obvious, like "ress with scroll at gates". Then there's builds designed around using desynch to your advantage. Sniper builds really don't need desynch and lag to be effective, it just one of the builds that works in both cases.

The problem here is that the skill is so useful and essential to the build (mainly for the range+dmg), especially in keep battles that not using it nerfs the whole build completely. Think most of us with this build uses it with non laggy combat in mind, I do at least.

I can understand you avoiding certain skills, this is why I generally don't use "Undo", but I don't want to avoid a skill completely that works as intended for me 96 shots out a hundred at the very least.

alainjbrennanb16_ESO

Bucky_13 wrote: »

alainjbrennanb16_ESO wrote: »

zvavi wrote: »

alainjbrennanb16_ESO wrote: »

JonnytheKing wrote: »

alainjbrennanb16_ESO wrote: »

JonnytheKing wrote: »

So iv seen a lot of posts about the rez bug , This has been in the game for 6 mouths plus ,
Poeple are blaming players , when i think zos needs to take more responsabilitty and fix simple bugs faster
insted they say film it and report it so we can ban them .
Does this mean poeple exploiting desinks are in the wrong as well.
Poeple have lost faith in zos, how are poeple meant to care when in my opinon ZOS has shown over and over pvp is
last thing they care about , Brokon promise after brokon promise.
Stop blaming the player

if you use a bug 1-3 then it can be a mistake but if you use reg then its the players fault

So the poeple that desink me over and over , are at fult ? so poeple shouldnt use bow at all is wat your saying or skills with cast times or any ranged skills

if you use a bug over and over and know its a bug its the players fault

So you are saying that you are not allowed to use cast time skills in PvP at all?

what!!! please dont try and put words in my mouth, if you know a skill can be expolited then dont use it, or use it that is ur risk, but to state i use it because the game is broken is no excuse, use skills that dont or cant be expolited, i dont use on my pvp character vanikfar whitestrike in non cp ep, i changed skills to stop make sure i did not expolit a bug, but if you want to use and possible recieve a ban go ahead, but to use a bug is giving peeps and unfair advantage on others who are not using it

Since we both play on the same campaign and same side, I know we have similar experiences with performance. There are some exploits that are more obvious, like "ress with scroll at gates". Then there's builds designed around using desynch to your advantage. Sniper builds really don't need desynch and lag to be effective, it just one of the builds that works in both cases.

The problem here is that the skill is so useful and essential to the build (mainly for the range+dmg), especially in keep battles that not using it nerfs the whole build completely. Think most of us with this build uses it with non laggy combat in mind, I do at least.

I can understand you avoiding certain skills, this is why I generally don't use "Undo", but I don't want to avoid a skill completely that works as intended for me 96 shots out a hundred at the very least.

indeed i agree but to just blame zos for the bug is wrong thats what some here are doing, yes they should fix it, but to say well they have not fixed it means i can use it is wrong, as you know i am norm in the middle of ad and dc so maybe i can swap to skills that dont desync easier

Bucky_13

alainjbrennanb16_ESO wrote: »

Bucky_13 wrote: »

alainjbrennanb16_ESO wrote: »

zvavi wrote: »

alainjbrennanb16_ESO wrote: »

JonnytheKing wrote: »

alainjbrennanb16_ESO wrote: »

JonnytheKing wrote: »

So iv seen a lot of posts about the rez bug , This has been in the game for 6 mouths plus ,
Poeple are blaming players , when i think zos needs to take more responsabilitty and fix simple bugs faster
insted they say film it and report it so we can ban them .
Does this mean poeple exploiting desinks are in the wrong as well.
Poeple have lost faith in zos, how are poeple meant to care when in my opinon ZOS has shown over and over pvp is
last thing they care about , Brokon promise after brokon promise.
Stop blaming the player

if you use a bug 1-3 then it can be a mistake but if you use reg then its the players fault

So the poeple that desink me over and over , are at fult ? so poeple shouldnt use bow at all is wat your saying or skills with cast times or any ranged skills

if you use a bug over and over and know its a bug its the players fault

So you are saying that you are not allowed to use cast time skills in PvP at all?

what!!! please dont try and put words in my mouth, if you know a skill can be expolited then dont use it, or use it that is ur risk, but to state i use it because the game is broken is no excuse, use skills that dont or cant be expolited, i dont use on my pvp character vanikfar whitestrike in non cp ep, i changed skills to stop make sure i did not expolit a bug, but if you want to use and possible recieve a ban go ahead, but to use a bug is giving peeps and unfair advantage on others who are not using it

Since we both play on the same campaign and same side, I know we have similar experiences with performance. There are some exploits that are more obvious, like "ress with scroll at gates". Then there's builds designed around using desynch to your advantage. Sniper builds really don't need desynch and lag to be effective, it just one of the builds that works in both cases.

The problem here is that the skill is so useful and essential to the build (mainly for the range+dmg), especially in keep battles that not using it nerfs the whole build completely. Think most of us with this build uses it with non laggy combat in mind, I do at least.

I can understand you avoiding certain skills, this is why I generally don't use "Undo", but I don't want to avoid a skill completely that works as intended for me 96 shots out a hundred at the very least.

indeed i agree but to just blame zos for the bug is wrong thats what some here are doing, yes they should fix it, but to say well they have not fixed it means i can use it is wrong, as you know i am norm in the middle of ad and dc so maybe i can swap to skills that dont desync easier

Yesterday I also realized that one of the most reliable instacast skills in those situations can also get desynched which I didn't want it to do. A couple of us use that skill because it tends to be one of the few skills that works as intended in most of those situations, i e I can weave with it instead of it not firing at all. Unlike ults which I usually don't even attempt to cast as it rarely works when you need it to.

I tend to mix my fighting up there, so I can get some small scale with less performance issues. The difference between those and large battles (some issues but rare I desynch there) or fighting ball groups (desynch most of the time) is huge.

JonnytheKing

alainjbrennanb16_ESO wrote: »

Bucky_13 wrote: »

alainjbrennanb16_ESO wrote: »

zvavi wrote: »

alainjbrennanb16_ESO wrote: »

JonnytheKing wrote: »

alainjbrennanb16_ESO wrote: »

JonnytheKing wrote: »

So iv seen a lot of posts about the rez bug , This has been in the game for 6 mouths plus ,
Poeple are blaming players , when i think zos needs to take more responsabilitty and fix simple bugs faster
insted they say film it and report it so we can ban them .
Does this mean poeple exploiting desinks are in the wrong as well.
Poeple have lost faith in zos, how are poeple meant to care when in my opinon ZOS has shown over and over pvp is
last thing they care about , Brokon promise after brokon promise.
Stop blaming the player

if you use a bug 1-3 then it can be a mistake but if you use reg then its the players fault

So the poeple that desink me over and over , are at fult ? so poeple shouldnt use bow at all is wat your saying or skills with cast times or any ranged skills

if you use a bug over and over and know its a bug its the players fault

So you are saying that you are not allowed to use cast time skills in PvP at all?

what!!! please dont try and put words in my mouth, if you know a skill can be expolited then dont use it, or use it that is ur risk, but to state i use it because the game is broken is no excuse, use skills that dont or cant be expolited, i dont use on my pvp character vanikfar whitestrike in non cp ep, i changed skills to stop make sure i did not expolit a bug, but if you want to use and possible recieve a ban go ahead, but to use a bug is giving peeps and unfair advantage on others who are not using it

Since we both play on the same campaign and same side, I know we have similar experiences with performance. There are some exploits that are more obvious, like "ress with scroll at gates". Then there's builds designed around using desynch to your advantage. Sniper builds really don't need desynch and lag to be effective, it just one of the builds that works in both cases.

The problem here is that the skill is so useful and essential to the build (mainly for the range+dmg), especially in keep battles that not using it nerfs the whole build completely. Think most of us with this build uses it with non laggy combat in mind, I do at least.

I can understand you avoiding certain skills, this is why I generally don't use "Undo", but I don't want to avoid a skill completely that works as intended for me 96 shots out a hundred at the very least.

indeed i agree but to just blame zos for the bug is wrong thats what some here are doing, yes they should fix it, but to say well they have not fixed it means i can use it is wrong, as you know i am norm in the middle of ad and dc so maybe i can swap to skills that dont desync easier

i agree but zos has had more then enough time to fix it is my point

alainjbrennanb16_ESO

Bucky_13 wrote: »

alainjbrennanb16_ESO wrote: »

Bucky_13 wrote: »

alainjbrennanb16_ESO wrote: »

zvavi wrote: »

alainjbrennanb16_ESO wrote: »

JonnytheKing wrote: »

alainjbrennanb16_ESO wrote: »

JonnytheKing wrote: »

So iv seen a lot of posts about the rez bug , This has been in the game for 6 mouths plus ,
Poeple are blaming players , when i think zos needs to take more responsabilitty and fix simple bugs faster
insted they say film it and report it so we can ban them .
Does this mean poeple exploiting desinks are in the wrong as well.
Poeple have lost faith in zos, how are poeple meant to care when in my opinon ZOS has shown over and over pvp is
last thing they care about , Brokon promise after brokon promise.
Stop blaming the player

if you use a bug 1-3 then it can be a mistake but if you use reg then its the players fault

So the poeple that desink me over and over , are at fult ? so poeple shouldnt use bow at all is wat your saying or skills with cast times or any ranged skills

if you use a bug over and over and know its a bug its the players fault

So you are saying that you are not allowed to use cast time skills in PvP at all?

what!!! please dont try and put words in my mouth, if you know a skill can be expolited then dont use it, or use it that is ur risk, but to state i use it because the game is broken is no excuse, use skills that dont or cant be expolited, i dont use on my pvp character vanikfar whitestrike in non cp ep, i changed skills to stop make sure i did not expolit a bug, but if you want to use and possible recieve a ban go ahead, but to use a bug is giving peeps and unfair advantage on others who are not using it

Since we both play on the same campaign and same side, I know we have similar experiences with performance. There are some exploits that are more obvious, like "ress with scroll at gates". Then there's builds designed around using desynch to your advantage. Sniper builds really don't need desynch and lag to be effective, it just one of the builds that works in both cases.

The problem here is that the skill is so useful and essential to the build (mainly for the range+dmg), especially in keep battles that not using it nerfs the whole build completely. Think most of us with this build uses it with non laggy combat in mind, I do at least.

I can understand you avoiding certain skills, this is why I generally don't use "Undo", but I don't want to avoid a skill completely that works as intended for me 96 shots out a hundred at the very least.

indeed i agree but to just blame zos for the bug is wrong thats what some here are doing, yes they should fix it, but to say well they have not fixed it means i can use it is wrong, as you know i am norm in the middle of ad and dc so maybe i can swap to skills that dont desync easier

Yesterday I also realized that one of the most reliable instacast skills in those situations can also get desynched which I didn't want it to do. A couple of us use that skill because it tends to be one of the few skills that works as intended in most of those situations, i e I can weave with it instead of it not firing at all. Unlike ults which I usually don't even attempt to cast as it rarely works when you need it to.

I tend to mix my fighting up there, so I can get some small scale with less performance issues. The difference between those and large battles (some issues but rare I desynch there) or fighting ball groups (desynch most of the time) is huge.

yep indeed most issue for desynch comes from fighting a certain 2 ball groups i have found, even other members of mos found they get a slow bug from fighting them

JonnytheKing

Ackwalan wrote: »

Stop making excuses for cheating. If you didn't cheat you have no worry about any ban.

This happens every time people get caught exploiting. They start making excuses and pointing fingers. As for comparing this exploit to desynch. That's just an attempt to shift blame.

lol no its not , im sick of zos not careing and shifting blame to the player , yes the player is at fult but poeple will be poeple , at the end of the day zos needs to take the right actions and they just are not, and thats why poeple dont care and abuse the game

JonnytheKing

zvavi wrote: »

alainjbrennanb16_ESO wrote: »

JonnytheKing wrote: »

alainjbrennanb16_ESO wrote: »

JonnytheKing wrote: »

So iv seen a lot of posts about the rez bug , This has been in the game for 6 mouths plus ,
Poeple are blaming players , when i think zos needs to take more responsabilitty and fix simple bugs faster
insted they say film it and report it so we can ban them .
Does this mean poeple exploiting desinks are in the wrong as well.
Poeple have lost faith in zos, how are poeple meant to care when in my opinon ZOS has shown over and over pvp is
last thing they care about , Brokon promise after brokon promise.
Stop blaming the player

if you use a bug 1-3 then it can be a mistake but if you use reg then its the players fault

So the poeple that desink me over and over , are at fult ? so poeple shouldnt use bow at all is wat your saying or skills with cast times or any ranged skills

if you use a bug over and over and know its a bug its the players fault

So you are saying that you are not allowed to use cast time skills in PvP at all?

by zos logic yes they should be banned , thats what they said in replie to the rez bug , but what they said stands for any bug , witch is dumb . What are they going to ban %30 of the player base