been trying to get a lead from Elden hollow 1. to make the drop rate better went with full group of guildies. every single one of them eventually got the lead. except for me.

honestly? dungeon/world boss leads should be guaranteed IMO.

Update: 17 1/2 hours later I got the lead

considering that it took ~150 runs

all I've got to say is that I am not looking fowards to trying to get the lead from volen..or DS2

i think for dungeon leads, drop rate should be double for veteran and triple for hard mode...
took me average 12-15 dungeon runs per leads i tried to farm...
with queue taking hours for dpser its really really frustrating!
thats my 2 cents

also having to pvp to get some leads for some mythic item s...
u can't get tranmuste crystal from doing pve contents
but u can't get some leads if you are not doing pvp
their should be an alternative for those with a lower drop rates
not everyone enjoy pvping...

I got the Elder Hollow lead in a couple runs but have been running Dark Shade and Volenfell all day without any luck.

All dungeons are set normal and I run them solo to save time for finding a group etc.

I've done 50 mino boss kills in Gold Coast for the gold lead, and nothing. It's quite possible that there's a gold lead cooldown, if you've found X amount within a single day.

Ya the dungeon grind for the leads was not fun, but you'll get it just hang in there.

150 runs for a single drop, as mentioned above, is so improbable that it's ridiculous: with a drop chance of 10%, which I think is a low but reasonable guess, not getting it in 150 runs has odds of about 7 million to 1 against it.

With a large sample size, this will happen to someone some time, but still, I would suggest an emergency support hotline for the unluckiest people in the game. When people have tried so many times for a drop that they should have had it with, say, a 99 percent probability, just give it to them. There's bound to be a server log to prove they did the runs. This way of cutting off the unlucky tail of the random distribution, so to speak, would eliminate the worst frustrations caused by abysmally rotten luck. The impact on the average drop rate would be negligible. It wouldn't even be any real advantage for anyone. It would just make a small number of very frustrated players somewhat less unhappy.

I've gotten all the pieces except for the Dwarven Articulated Paws. I've killed Sentinel of Rkugamz around 10 times now ish. Several times solo and a couple of times in a group. I have no idea if the droprate goes up or down with a group, or if going solo or with a group even matters at all.

However since dungeons are (mostly) group activities I think the droprate should be higher since you need a group of players to the complete the dungeon.

To get an idea of what the droprates are I will include the number of kills I did for leads for the Dwarven Wolf to drop.

I got most leads within 1-4 tries, including Volenfell and Darkshade Caverns II. The leads that took more effort was the one in Blackreach Public dungeon Nchuthnkarst, 10+ kills give or take. Also The Last Sentinel Boss in Rkhardahrk group Delve in Craglorn. I was close to reporting a loot bug or something, since that lead took around 25+ kills.

Regarding the lead for the Dwarven Articulated Paws, perhaps that is a bug. It doesn't sound reasonable for it to take 17+ hours of grinding to get it. I realize that golden leads should seem more rare, but really 17+ hours? Either you were terribly unlucky or it's a bug.

UPDATE:
The Dwarven Articulated Paws finally dropped. Took around 15-20 kills, give or take.
Best of luck everyone! May RNG be with you.

I've farmed dungeons up to now only for the golden leads of the ebon wolf (solo on normal). It dropped in DS I in the 2nd try and in DS II and Volenfell on the 1st try. On the other hand, both "kill any mobs"-leads in Bzthark and Mzulft were kind of a torture - in the latter, I've got a different purple and a golden lead before finally the targetted lead showed up.

Regarding dungeons, perhaps the drop chance is related to the rank in scrying (which would be plausible). I had reached rank 9 except for the first failed try in DS I.

On the other hand, the law of chances are not nice for such farming if the success rate is small or tiny. The number of attempts before the first success has a a rather heavy-tailed distribution which means that very long runs are more likely than human intuition expects:

With a success chance of 10%, 35% of the population will not have the lead after 10 tries, and 12% after even 20 tries, and 0.5% will even need more than 50 tries. Regarding the server population, this is quite a number of people. If the success chance is considerably smaller, then we end up in serious and for most of us intolerable grind (BSW or VMA inferno staffs ...).

My success streak in the 3 dungeons could just be attributed to luck, too. With a drop chance of 10%, getting all 3 leads in 4 attempts would have a chance of 0.36% - small but not unlikely (i.e. 3-4 people out of 1000 will be so lucky).

I have a hunch. It could be that drops are metered out, depending on how much progress you have made with Antiquities.

When I was leveling it up, there was an overabundance of drops. People who haven't subbed to Greymoor confirm they are getting many leads.

Now that I'm 10/10, mythic leads seem harder to come by. The difference is now that I'm a higher level, I'm not constantly running the free zone leads. Maybe you need to keep processing other leads in order to increase chance of mythic drops.

Prior to maxing the skill lines, I was already collecting mythic leads, and they were pretty easy to get.

I have farmed over 50 Thieve's Troves for the last part of the music box and still no lead. This is beyond ridiculous.

It's pure RNG. It took me 29 times killing one WB in Malabal Tor to get the last lead for ring of the wild hunt. Other 4 parts I got on the first try.

It's like buying 15 crates and getting only potion, yet someone buys one crate and gets a radiant apex mount.

In my opinion, lead drops should be guaranteed.

Over 40 IC bosses and no Malacath ring.