Just another reason not to sub.

What would u prefer

farming vet? for perfected

or farming a new perfected version of that vet, with higher difficulties more aoos to get the new perfected set?

case closed

I understand your frustration, but still its content you can do right now, you wont have to learn new mechanics, for hours, die and die and die over and over, with lags we having right now lol...

But its an mmo, they want you to have something to do, something to pass times on when you get online, so you don't leave to play another mmo.... dreaming about an upgrade of your old items... that would never happend...

Its already too late, they gave the exact same item to people beating it on nMA, they probabily have the same item ID, zos is probabily uncapable of doing it now

Drako_Ei wrote: »

Its already too late, they gave the exact same item to people beating it on nMA, they probabily have the same item ID, zos is probabily uncapable of doing it now

They must apologize to us and promise that this will not happen again.
Before that i guess they should at least understand what is wrong here.
Pretty sure they understand and done this anyway.
But we should watch, read or hear offficial words about that.
I will not invest any $ into eso until this happend!
@ZOS_GinaBruno do u read forum at all? is it hard to breath with heads stucked in the sand?

And, I'm sure eso database contains such information as when it was obtained and what was Mode of arena at that time.
So it's just a technical issue.
must most important is their Will to fix the problem here.
And the problem is unacceptable attitute to player's time, efforts and money.

yes we should get upgrade free, new player finish normal get weapons, i spent many nights for it, this is not justice !!!
i try again get stress get headache.

JusticeSouldier wrote: »

Guys, please lets up this thing.
It's very important to show our reaction to this disrespect to all our lifetime spent for this in the past for this boring content.
We got arena weapons form veteran arenas. Same as now needed for perfected weapons.
Bugs, lags + absolutly terrible random and farm of transmute crystals to get a right freaking trait on weapons on the top...

Dam @ZOS_BrianWheeler HOW??? WHY? REASONS???????

The reason is that anyone who collected the item has had time with it and has had the benefit for quite a while now. If you want the updated weapon, run the content again to get the perfect version.

Interesting, how many people who voted for "no" really finished vMA?

What's next? Asking for a refund because ZOS made IC DLC free?

You guys are tough. I'm sure you can do those arenas again.

The one thing that concerns me is where they'll draw the line. Perfected Maelstrom gear and then what? Perfected dungeon gear?

Can someone explain the upside for players (or for ZOS) by not upgrading people's Maelstrom weapons you already got doing vet? I haven't seen anyone think it's a good idea to not upgrade weapons, but many people who think it's a big FU from ZOS (including me - unsubscribed from the day they announced this stupidity).

It’s disgusting. And the people taunting the players who put in the time to grind VMA/VDSA by saying utter crap like “you’re tough, you can grind the arena again” are the same hypocrites who voted no to increasing the gear cap to CP170. Not to mention, probably never actually made it through VMA/VDSA to grasp just how bad the RNG is.

What @ZOS_RichLambert has created is resentment between veteran players and new or casual players that didn’t need to be there. Casual players think that veteran players are elitist and are enjoying this blatant slap in the face to veteran players. Veteran players think casual players are speaking on a subject they aren’t educated about because they’re feeling empowered now that they have access to (formerly) BiS weapons they otherwise had no shot of obtaining.

The funny thing is that I am a casual player. I am garbage at trials, so-so at DLC dungeons, only go to Cyrodiil for the Skyshards, hate arenas, and whenever I had the chance to play the game (before I unsubbed) I was usually questing solo. I didn’t think I had a shot at beating VMA but one summer I really wanted that Inferno staff and decided to put in the effort to get it. Several grueling months later I finally had a Maelstrom Inferno staff and a Flawless Conqueror title. After that I said I would never touch that arena again, because it was easily the worst gaming experience a casual gamer could ever have. The grinding, the bugs, the deaths - it was awful.

So yes, give the VMA/VDSA weapons to players who aren’t able to beat the content, make them more accessible. But to put a slightly better version of the same weapon in the same bug-ridden arena, and give nothing to the players who put in the time to obtain those weapons on Vet in the first place, is a tremendous slap in the face. People who pulled their hair out facing the hardest non-trial content in the game with the worst RNG to boot for weeks/months or longer are running around with the same weapons as players who face rolled nMA/nDSA this week, and are being told to go back in and “earn” the Perfected version. @ZOS_RichLambert you should be ashamed of yourself and how you handled this whole situation. It’s an embarrassing way to represent Zenimax. Heh.

And to think I used to be a Zenimax apologist. It kind of makes me want to throw up.

We farmed for the normal one not the perfected onne so we have no claim on the new one

At least you still get a weapon at the end of it. Does nobody remember the days when you got one weapon every 5 or so runs and there was no transmutes so you could have got unusable weapons. People were making characters to match the weapons they got since it was actually hard back then. 300k scores were no joke and now a 300k score won't get you on the leaderboard. Be happy they changed the drop rate and added transmutes, things could be a lot worse, plus the perfected versions aren't even worth it.