Is it ok to introduce cp170 gear?

  • fred4
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    No
    An odd question in 2020. This was settled around the time IC came out. Everyone was up in arms when ZOS raised the veteran cap from V14 to V16. They swore to never do it again.
  • pieratsos
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    No
    zvavi wrote: »
    pieratsos wrote: »
    Most people cry because they might have to farm new gear( completely optional) but they farm it anyway with your quarterly nerfdates anyway so its kind of a stupid argument.

    The only stupid argument is equating the farm of a couple of new sets every update with farming literally every useful set that you need essentially making everything u already have useless, wasting millions and millions of gold and wasting hundreds of hours of farming. Yeah that is indeed stupid.

    It ain't equation. Because the scale is entirely different. Question is, where is the line of what is acceptable and what is ***. Say they do it only for monster sets. Is it ok? Or not? Or another example, they do it to vMA weapons. again.

    The question isn't where is the line. The question is why would u even draw one in the first place. There is zero reason to introduce cp170 gear of any kind. Not only that but the game is already struggling with balance issues. They can't balance cp, they can't balance itemization, they can't balance abilities.. Everything is all over the place. Why would u even introduce cp170 gear? For another pointless grind just to *** people off and make balance even worse? Cause that's about the only outcome of this change?
  • tim99
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    No
    fred4 wrote: »
    An odd question in 2020. This was settled around the time IC came out. Everyone was up in arms when ZOS raised the veteran cap from V14 to V16. They swore to never do it again.

    was it about the same time when they said, alliance token will never be a thing?
    or did they say that only month ago? i getting confused sometimes by timelines and cant remember quite well...
    :trollface:
  • StamPlar_1976
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    Yes
    I'm all for it. I want this to happen. Would breath fresh life into the game and give me a reason to go do old content.
  • Hexi
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    LOL the game is completely ruined by power creep already, and you want MORE?
  • Zulera301
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    Yes
    yes.

    some folks just want to watch the world burn.

    if you mess with item coding (the jumble of letters and numbers you get if you "link" an item), you can actually find code for CP180 gear. probably hearkens back to the 2014-2015 days when they were doing those crappy veteran ranks. they probably planned to up the VR cap to 18 at some point after Craglorn.

    THAT SAID, I am a twisted sack like some of y'all and I'd be fine with this.
    Edited by Zulera301 on May 27, 2020 9:48AM
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  • essi2
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    No
    Too much work for very little gain. Everything would scale up and then you'd have to get the new gear, one of the advantages ESO has is that you DON'T need to grind all your gear again every major update.
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  • red_emu
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    No
    Your suggestion doesn't make sense. You want to KEEP the gear cap at 160 but also want all gear to have 170 version, basically making that version BiS, so that would mean rasing the gear cap.

    If you want perfected versions of stuff please decon all your gear, mail me your mats then go and grind everything again.
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  • gatekeeper13
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    No
    Why would someone want to re-grind same gear from same content? Makes no sense.
  • Eifleber
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    No
    I can see the desire to improve after you maxxed out everything.

    But then I'd rather see stuff you can spend your CP > 810 on, like:
    • faster swimmming
    • extra housing item allowance
    • less falling damage
    • vanity mount

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  • thedavidventer
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    No
    I played WoW since WoTLK. Only discovered ESO in April of this year. Instantly fell in love with the fact that its not like WoW when it comes to gear. WoW is pretty much an endless gear-farming game. That’s no fun. The moment you have the best gear, a new expansion or a higher level mythic+ opens up and you’re pretty much a noob again, having to power up your character all over again, and it’s a serious grind every time. It’s really lame. No thanks.

    The way things work in ESO now is awesome and it’s what made me quit WoW and switch to ESO as my main addiction. I love how gear works in this game. Here I actually play the game, enjoy the story, explore, and experience awesome content instead of just trying to get better gear all the time in order to not fall behind.

    Please DO NOT raise the gear level, ever. I don’t want to play another WoW-clone endless gear farming game.
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  • Anotherone773
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    Yes
    Most people cry because they might have to farm new gear( completely optional) but they farm it anyway with your quarterly nerfdates anyway so its kind of a stupid argument.

    This is a horrible comparison.

    How many pieces of CP140 or CP150 gear do you use on your end-game characters? That's what I thought.
    This is one of the easiest games to get end level gear in that i have ever played. You can just craft or buy a starter set, and then work on something a little better. You dont need BiS or gold gear to play in end game so the obsession of chasing trial sets and the fuss of " OMG! i have to like do something in this game in order to keep up with progression!!!!" is more about the combination of OCD and laziness than any intelligent argument.

    If you dont want chase after BiS gear, dont. I dont and i kill stuff perfectly fine. At the end of the day everything regarding this game is a choice. My options to progress should not be limited by some weird issue some players have about actually having to play the game to get better gear.

  • Donny_Vito
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    Yes
    Without CP changes in the past year plus, I don't see why not at this point.

    People need purpose, and once you've done the round of vet trials for perfected gear there isn't much of a purpose to level or grind for gear anymore.
  • SpacemanSpiff1
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    i could see this happening. it seems in-line with a lot of zos' decisions.
  • caesarvs
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    No
    Just if you grind all my currently gear to the updated CP for me :smile:
  • CleymenZero
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    No
    Most people cry because they might have to farm new gear( completely optional) but they farm it anyway with your quarterly nerfdates anyway so its kind of a stupid argument.

    Yes... Let's compare farming 1-2 sets because of modifications made to farming 50 sets.........
  • Khenarthi
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    No
    I do not want to outfit 18 characters from scratch (and that's only my main account... i have 3 others).

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  • Stx
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    No
    Hell no. That's one of the main reasons I like this game is I dont have to grind new sets of gear constantly.
  • CleymenZero
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    No
    I'm all for it. I want this to happen. Would breath fresh life into the game and give me a reason to go do old content.

    😂 It would free up some server space cause a bunch would quit.

    Why would you want to redo buggy content? You probably have 1 character you play so for you it's not a big deal...
  • adilazimdegilx
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    Yes
    Yes, in a way but not as adding CP170 items.

    Giving players to chance upgrade their sets as Perfected Versions at CP810 in a way;
    - Extra set piece bonus as most Perfected sets currently have (maybe make it customizable for diversity) or
    - Double traited items/weapons or
    - All around increased set bonuses or
    - Increased Flat Stat bonuses or
    - ...

    And this may require a master crafter to do, or behind a quest from master crafter NPC, or both.
    Call this system, say, 'Master Crafted System', Drop Sets gets 'Perfected' name on them with the crafters name in below like crafted sets (" Perfected by 'Adil' "), Crafted Sets gets their crafters name in their name ("Adil's Inferno Staff of Julianos").
    All perfected items bound to account.
    This does not have to be at CP810 of course, could be in earlier CP or multiple times until CP810 to give players a chance to gradually improve their sets as they level up in certain CPs (like 300-600-810?)

    And I know this is not something very original but I think this would be a nice addition and would not cause any harm to anyone really. I think this is better than increasing CP level of items or, say, (Rant-on) making players to re-farm their nerfed items as their pre-nerfed forms behind an RNG system in the exact same content they've already done (Rant-off)
  • CleymenZero
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    No
    Most people cry because they might have to farm new gear( completely optional) but they farm it anyway with your quarterly nerfdates anyway so its kind of a stupid argument.

    This is a horrible comparison.

    How many pieces of CP140 or CP150 gear do you use on your end-game characters? That's what I thought.
    This is one of the easiest games to get end level gear in that i have ever played. You can just craft or buy a starter set, and then work on something a little better. You dont need BiS or gold gear to play in end game so the obsession of chasing trial sets and the fuss of " OMG! i have to like do something in this game in order to keep up with progression!!!!" is more about the combination of OCD and laziness than any intelligent argument.

    If you dont want chase after BiS gear, dont. I dont and i kill stuff perfectly fine. At the end of the day everything regarding this game is a choice. My options to progress should not be limited by some weird issue some players have about actually having to play the game to get better gear.

    Why not play Destiny 2, Division 2 or any other GrindMO? There are games who cater to people like that, ESO is supposed to be about NOT grinding all the time... Although they kinda fkd that idea when they went with perfected vMA and vDSA...
  • Gythral
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    No
    To the OP, why not 300 CP gear, 600 CP, and 810 gear as well? (J/k in case anybody takes me seriously).

    810 or even 1000 makes more sense than 170, not that any are practical, the rescaling of everything is outside the reach of ZOS (probably for financial reasons)
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  • Raammzzaa
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    No
    Personally, the introduction of a new, higher gear cap would likely be what would finally push me to leave the game. At this point, ESO is so broken that I log on less to actually play the game, but more to just hang out and chat with friends that I have played with for years.
    Edited by Raammzzaa on May 27, 2020 2:11PM
  • Hapexamendios
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    No
    No, CP 1000 or nothing.
  • Crixus8000
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    No
    Needing to grind every peice of gear for all characters AGAIN for no reason at all ? No thanks.
  • shaielzafine
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    Yes
    Sange13 wrote: »
    Let's get cp170 gear or whatever they are doing with CPs now. Since we have to re-farm our old sets constantly depending on which way the combat team decides nerfs, I don't see a problem. Say you farm gear today with Greymoor launch, you will have to farm again after the inevitable balancing patch. Might as well be done with increased item levels so it's okay to decon and get some of our materials back.

    Increasing ilvl is utterly pointless. You get another 2-3% increase in stats, the content gets readjusted to the new CP level, your increased stats are essentially meaningless, and you have to regrind all your stuff again for no reason and no benefit. Absolutely STUPID idea and the "but they nerf things" argument doesn't hold up because they buff things too, metas shift, and the gear set you kept in your bank from a couple months back may suddenly be very useful without you having to re-grind it.

    There are precisely zero good reasons to increase item CPs.

    Why are you pretending this game doesn't make you farm gear anyway? They just literally did the same thing with vMA weapons and nerfed things like my perfect vAS destro for fun. I have at least 6 ESO storage boxes in housing of useless sets that aren't arena weapons. Let's be real here it's always going to depend whichever way the combat team feels like. In a couple weeks I bet the new patch nerfs and unnerfs things for balance as usual, I've changed gear 4x more in ESO compared to other actual horizontal progression MMOs. It's basically the same grind as vertical progression MMOs but more random as you don't know which sets will be useless in a future patch. They want you to keep buying dlcs in ESO and provide new sets to experiment with while changing old ones. Since a bunch of us are already regrinding stuff for no reason, no benefit and not even an extra level of difficulty in vM, we might as well get ready that they will be doing this for other items in our inventory. One of the lead devs even made a 2020 car analogy lol. I for one would like to see perfected monster sets seeing how they nerfed nearly all of them while introducing the new mythic item. Why pretend this game doesn't make you re-farm gear?
  • Salvas_Aren
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    No
    Please dont feed them more crappy ideas. :(
  • zvavi
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    No
    I mean, there is a silent crowd that voted here no, but didn't want vMA weapons upgraded. Non of them has yet explained what's the difference...
  • Jaimeh
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    No
    After all the farming enforced by the new perfected weapons, and you come in the forums with this question, do you want our collective blood pressures to go through the roof :lol:

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  • Deathlord92
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    I have so many different sets all of them gold different weapon types to them sets why would anyone in my position want to re farm all of that I have played for 5 years imagine all the golded out sets I have.
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