ManwithBeard9 wrote: »
ManwithBeard9 wrote: »
I don't think so.
Selling gold; buyer receives gold and seller receives RL money. Zenimax gets NOTHING. - NOT ALLOWED
Selling Crown Store Items: buyer gets Crown Store Item, seller receives gold and Zenimax get the RL money. - ALLOWED
Selling Greymoor; buyer receives Greymoor, seller receives gold and Zenimax get the RL money. - ???
So, there is basically no difference between Crown Store gifting and Selling Greymoor in my opinion. Though, this doesn't mean it's legal or illegal. It's always up to ZOS to decide if it's allowed or not. If you ask me it shouldn't be a bannable trade since ZOS get their money anyways.
Read my message carefully man. I didn't say anything about selling Greymoor is being allowed or not. I just told my opinion. But what you don't get is selling Greymoor is not selling gold. They are completely different. You can make in-game gold and sell it without paying anything and earn money over the game which is not accepted.ManwithBeard9 wrote: »ZOS stated when crown store gifting came about, only things traded IN GAME were allowed. Crowns, items, gold, skin runs, all in game. You can't gift a chapter in game, therefore its not allowed. Doesn't matter if ZOS gets money or not. It's selling gold.
Read my message carefully man. I didn't say anything about selling Greymoor is being allowed or not. I just told my opinion. But what you don't get is selling Greymoor is not selling gold. They are completely different. You can make in-game gold and sell it without paying anything and earn money over the game which is not accepted.ManwithBeard9 wrote: »ZOS stated when crown store gifting came about, only things traded IN GAME were allowed. Crowns, items, gold, skin runs, all in game. You can't gift a chapter in game, therefore its not allowed. Doesn't matter if ZOS gets money or not. It's selling gold.
To be able to sell crown items you pay MONEY to ZOS, get crowns and sell it in-game and earn gold and it's allowed.
To sell Greymoor, you again pay MONEY to ZOS in behalf of someone else and earn gold in-game which is basically same with only few extra steps as someone else also told above. What I am saying is since there is no difference between this 2, it shouldn't be bannable. AGAIN; this is just my own opinion and it's up to ZOS to decide it's allowed or not.
Blacknight841 wrote: »Bannable? Sure
...will they actually do anything about it? No.
There are people in this game on the xbox na that have been selling gold and buying from bots for 5 straight years without getting banned on their main tag. The largest gold seller in the game is still active. He has boasted on many social media platforms of the letters he has gotten with warnings, but never a ban. If zenimax doesn't care enough about their game to enforce the terms of service on these individuals, why would they come after you ?
MarciusVetrack wrote: »Can i sell the Chapter Greymoor for Gold, in ESO? In my opinion is the same as selling gold for irl money.
I see a bunch of users in some discords offering to sell Greymoor for 3kk gold, and i think this is a *** off, and ilegal, right Zenimax?
xXMeowMeowXx wrote: »Nopes...because you cannot get it for crowns.
If you could gift the chapter from the crown store then yeapers. If it is for irl cash it is a giant no, from what I was told
Best to ask ZOS themselves to be extra triple sure.
ManwithBeard9 wrote: »
I don't think so.
Selling gold; buyer receives gold and seller receives RL money. Zenimax gets NOTHING. - NOT ALLOWED
Selling Crown Store Items: buyer gets Crown Store Item, seller receives gold and Zenimax get the RL Money. - ALLOWED
Selling Greymoor; buyer receives Greymoor, seller receives gold and Zenimax get the RL Money. - ???
It's all basic math equation. So, there is basically no difference between Crown Store gifting and Selling Greymoor in my opinion. Though, this doesn't mean it's legal or illegal. It's always up to ZOS to decide if it's allowed or not. If you ask me it shouldn't be a bannable trade since ZOS get their money anyways.

eovogtb16_ESO wrote: »At least one of these people are class representatives even. Zos won't do anything about it.
Alienoutlaw wrote: »eovogtb16_ESO wrote: »At least one of these people are class representatives even. Zos won't do anything about it.
thats quite the accusation to make here.
secondly ZOS does not give feed back or publish anything to do with things that break TOS
Disturbed_One wrote: »Alienoutlaw wrote: »eovogtb16_ESO wrote: »At least one of these people are class representatives even. Zos won't do anything about it.
thats quite the accusation to make here.
secondly ZOS does not give feed back or publish anything to do with things that break TOS
It needs to get traction in the forums... since reporting through the "normal" means has accomplished nothing, and those same players are still in the game.
The same players who got banned for exploiting, buying "new" accounts online with real money.
The same players who are selling carry runs then selling the gold online for real money.
The same players who are using VPNs to buy crowns at lower exchange rates, selling them in zone, and converting it back to USD.
Alienoutlaw wrote: »Disturbed_One wrote: »Alienoutlaw wrote: »eovogtb16_ESO wrote: »At least one of these people are class representatives even. Zos won't do anything about it.
thats quite the accusation to make here.
secondly ZOS does not give feed back or publish anything to do with things that break TOS
It needs to get traction in the forums... since reporting through the "normal" means has accomplished nothing, and those same players are still in the game.
The same players who got banned for exploiting, buying "new" accounts online with real money.
The same players who are selling carry runs then selling the gold online for real money.
The same players who are using VPNs to buy crowns at lower exchange rates, selling them in zone, and converting it back to USD.
unfortunately we can't name and shame on the forums, whilst i agree it needs highlighting there really is nothing we can do here, maybe other social platforms have less strict guide lines regarding privacy
Disturbed_One wrote: »Alienoutlaw wrote: »Disturbed_One wrote: »Alienoutlaw wrote: »eovogtb16_ESO wrote: »At least one of these people are class representatives even. Zos won't do anything about it.
thats quite the accusation to make here.
secondly ZOS does not give feed back or publish anything to do with things that break TOS
It needs to get traction in the forums... since reporting through the "normal" means has accomplished nothing, and those same players are still in the game.
The same players who got banned for exploiting, buying "new" accounts online with real money.
The same players who are selling carry runs then selling the gold online for real money.
The same players who are using VPNs to buy crowns at lower exchange rates, selling them in zone, and converting it back to USD.
unfortunately we can't name and shame on the forums, whilst i agree it needs highlighting there really is nothing we can do here, maybe other social platforms have less strict guide lines regarding privacy
ZoS knows the names. They've been reported, numerous times. There just needs to be public pressure for them to clean up the black market in the game.
But, they've got friends who are class reps, friends who have clout in the game (streamers/etc), and they're part of the very small end-game raiding community. Perhaps ZoS has weighed the options and decided to let it go... I hope not, but that's how it feels/looks.
Kalik_Gold wrote: »If its able to be a Gift. It’s fine to buy for Gold. They don’t care beyond that.
This is the first MMO I’ve played where streamers talk openly of buying Gold and Selling Items / Accounts.
Due to the open micro transactions in most games now of days. It seems no one cares.
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