Someone got the statue and....
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McGordon✭✭✭Thevampirenight wrote: »They talked abut it on their last live stream they went for a look for like an item that had been logged buried and got excavated or something. So the idea behind this coloring that its old and the coloring went away. As it would as it ages.
So that is why it looks like this.
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TheKingofSass✭✭✭✭More pictures from german forum ...
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/de/discussion/526978/physikalische-ce-eingetroffen-leichte-entwarnung-bezueglich-der-farbe#latest
OKAY, this looks WAY better and more alike to the promoten one. I can live with that, cause that does looks like its ancient and has been buried away for some time."Remember, darkness does not always equate to evil, just as light does not always bring good."
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✭✭✭ManwithBeard9 wrote: »ManwithBeard9 wrote: »ManwithBeard9 wrote: »I found the artist's blog a while ago. In fact, there were THREE artists working on it. One (the blogger) worked on legs, armor and - wings. One on face and torso, the last on the base and flames. The blogger also said the image used in promotion was made by ZOS. This means the statue's coloring in that image wasn't set in stone. And it seems we're getting a different color, closer to a vampire lord's actual skin color.
Honestly, the paint looks terrible. This can't be it.
That could be but the heads look different as well. The one from the preorder appears to be looking down.
Regardless, why hire three different artists to work on one small piece? Hire a quality artist to create the entire piece. Ofc, I am not suggesting the ones that worked on the various parts of this one are not good artists.
Hm. It looks to me like the body is tilted backwards in the turquoise photo. Maybe we have to assemble the statue and that can lead to slight variations.
I am not very familiar with how those statues are usually created. Modeling the 3D blueprint can be quite the work, I suppose? Assigning the task to three people saves time? I dunno. The result speaks for itself, the model is fantastic. Let's hope the paint job doesn't ruin it.
What paint job?
The one on the left.
Exactly.
Oh, the left one is fine. ESO/TES statues have never been very colorful and more like actual statues. And it was in the promo picture, so can't get upset about that, really.
But the one on the left isnt the one being delivered.
Yes, it is. The left one is how it was intended to look and I hope the final product gets close.
I don't know what the deal with the turquoise one is. It looks like a failed one or an unfinished one has accidentally shipped. Hopefully, that's only an exceptional case.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭ManwithBeard9 wrote: »According to the Livestream, they were going for an ancient bronze look, like it's a bronze statue found at an archeological dig site. Here's some real ancient bronze for comparison. You can decide for yourself how close it is.
Weird how they decided to change the look *checks watch* 5 months after the advertisements were sent out and nothing was ever updated. They really are trying to pass off a barely painted statue as a finished product.
I actually think you have this backwards. The way the events line up, based on the description on ESO Live, it looks like the marketing material for pre-order was created _after_ they decided what the statue was going to look like.
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✭✭ManwithBeard9 wrote: »According to the Livestream, they were going for an ancient bronze look, like it's a bronze statue found at an archeological dig site. Here's some real ancient bronze for comparison. You can decide for yourself how close it is.
Weird how they decided to change the look *checks watch* 5 months after the advertisements were sent out and nothing was ever updated. They really are trying to pass off a barely painted statue as a finished product.
I actually think you have this backwards. The way the events line up, based on the description on ESO Live, it looks like the marketing material for pre-order was created _after_ they decided what the statue was going to look like.
Standard disclaimers due to lack of reliable information...
You don't put out ads for a product like this without everything being finalized. When the FO76 CE got delivered, it was not delivered as advertised. Bethesda said oh well at first, then a lawsuit formed and next thing you know everyone had a replacement bag.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭ManwithBeard9 wrote: »ManwithBeard9 wrote: »According to the Livestream, they were going for an ancient bronze look, like it's a bronze statue found at an archeological dig site. Here's some real ancient bronze for comparison. You can decide for yourself how close it is.
Weird how they decided to change the look *checks watch* 5 months after the advertisements were sent out and nothing was ever updated. They really are trying to pass off a barely painted statue as a finished product.
I actually think you have this backwards. The way the events line up, based on the description on ESO Live, it looks like the marketing material for pre-order was created _after_ they decided what the statue was going to look like.
Standard disclaimers due to lack of reliable information...
You don't put out ads for a product like this without everything being finalized. When the FO76 CE got delivered, it was not delivered as advertised. Bethesda said oh well at first, then a lawsuit formed and next thing you know everyone had a replacement bag.
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✭✭ManwithBeard9 wrote: »ManwithBeard9 wrote: »According to the Livestream, they were going for an ancient bronze look, like it's a bronze statue found at an archeological dig site. Here's some real ancient bronze for comparison. You can decide for yourself how close it is.
Weird how they decided to change the look *checks watch* 5 months after the advertisements were sent out and nothing was ever updated. They really are trying to pass off a barely painted statue as a finished product.
I actually think you have this backwards. The way the events line up, based on the description on ESO Live, it looks like the marketing material for pre-order was created _after_ they decided what the statue was going to look like.
Standard disclaimers due to lack of reliable information...
You don't put out ads for a product like this without everything being finalized. When the FO76 CE got delivered, it was not delivered as advertised. Bethesda said oh well at first, then a lawsuit formed and next thing you know everyone had a replacement bag.
Exactly my point, so maybe I misunderstood what you said.
Oh, no, sarcasm. They either got final product and realized they fudged up or when checking Leamon's for the unboxing realized there was a massive issue.
Also, for those mentioning lighting, there's no way "lighting" or "flash" would wash out all of the dark coloring of the statue, considering the Molag Bal statue is still dark.4 -
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✭✭Well, the lighting doesn't help.So they raised the floor and lowered the ceiling. Except the ceiling has spikes in it now and the floor is also lava.1 -
robertthebard✭✭✭✭✭Thevampirenight wrote: »They talked abut it on their last live stream they went for a look for like an item that had been logged buried and got excavated or something. So the idea behind this coloring that its old and the coloring went away. As it would as it ages.
So that is why it looks like this.
Ha
Haha
HAHAHAHAHHHAAHAHAHAAHAAAA *deep breath* hahahhahahahahahhahhaha!
That's great if it were an ancient piece of plastic.
You are aware, of course, that you could go to Greece and see a lot of base colored marble statues that were originally brightly painted? No? Why am I not surprised?0 -
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✭✭robertthebard wrote: »Thevampirenight wrote: »They talked abut it on their last live stream they went for a look for like an item that had been logged buried and got excavated or something. So the idea behind this coloring that its old and the coloring went away. As it would as it ages.
So that is why it looks like this.
Ha
Haha
HAHAHAHAHHHAAHAHAHAAHAAAA *deep breath* hahahhahahahahahhahhaha!
That's great if it were an ancient piece of plastic.
You are aware, of course, that you could go to Greece and see a lot of base colored marble statues that were originally brightly painted? No? Why am I not surprised?
Yeah but when you see the statues in advertisements, are they painted or are they bare?8 -
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✭✭✭It should be at least roughly the same colour as the promotional photos (allowing for some lighting differences, obviously), unless there is a disclaimer saying it won't (or might not) be.
If it's not, it's SNAD and a refund can be requested, if desired.0 -
Sigerk✭✭✭The lighting in that comparison picture is horrible, on this one it already looks better. Added another one to see it in multiple lighting settings. Lighting really does a lot for your picture and can make the difference between something pleasing to the eye or something ugly to look at. (Edit) White balance is also a thing to account for as is exposure and ISO values to a certain degree.
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ManwithBeard9✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭The lighting in that comparison picture is horrible, on this one it already looks better. Added another one to see it in multiple lighting settings. Lighting really does a lot for your picture and can make the difference between something pleasing to the eye or something ugly to look at.
Still looks nothing like the colors in the adverts. It looks like it got one coat of one color and they forgot the rest.4 -
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Edit: post was edited for trolling/bashing when I was just basically upset at the user I quoted for, what I've seen so far as, his systematic defense of ZOS in multiple threads. I guess I should've been clearer. I just find that when you systematically defend the developers on legitimate issues, you are hurting the community and defending further future behaviour.Thevampirenight wrote: »They talked abut it on their last live stream they went for a look for like an item that had been logged buried and got excavated or something. So the idea behind this coloring that its old and the coloring went away. As it would as it ages.
So that is why it looks like this.
[snip] I guess there are those always bashing blindly and those always finding a "good" reason to why things are messed up. Fair game.
[Edited to remove Baiting]Edited by CleymenZero on May 25, 2020 5:59PM2 -
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✭✭✭The color should be darker. It's not as terrible as on the right pic, but it is certainly not identical to the left one. Hahhh... It's a damn shame, the model is so awesome. Just to have it diminished by a questionable paint. It's actually quite a fitting allegory for the vampire re-vamp.0 -
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✭✭✭Now that we've got some better pictures, I don't think it looks all that bad. It does indeed look like an ancient bronze statue. I think I'd be fine with it if I could have actually afforded to spend money on a physical collectors edition.
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✭✭You know, I just realized what it looks like. It's been sitting outside and its covered in pollen.2 -
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✭ManwithBeard9 wrote: »You know, I just realized what it looks like. It's been sitting outside and its covered in pollen.
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✭✭✭Look at the bright side!
At least the paint doesn't rub off like some of the Morrowind Dwemer Centurion statues did! Lol!
Was supposed to receive mine today, but it a holiday, yay.
Will let ya'll know what mine looks like tomorrow.
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✭✭✭✭✭This might be one of those "Suddenly there's the sound of thousands of tortured souls screaming out in abject horror" things to ask, but do some collectors like to paint their collectible fantasy figurines themselves? I'm wondering if a neutral color was chosen so it would be easier to paint over by people who like to do that sort of thing?I've fought mudcrabs more fearsome than me!0 -
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✭✭✭SeaGtGruff wrote: »This might be one of those "Suddenly there's the sound of thousands of tortured souls screaming out in abject horror" things to ask, but do some collectors like to paint their collectible fantasy figurines themselves? I'm wondering if a neutral color was chosen so it would be easier to paint over by people who like to do that sort of thing?
Kinda doubt it. More likely they genuinely thought the bronze statue thing was the way to go and I think people would have been more ok with it if the promotional art looked closer to the real thing."He who fights with monsters should look to it that he himself does not become a monster...when you gaze long into the abyss the abyss also gazes into you..."1 -
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✭✭✭SeaGtGruff wrote: »This might be one of those "Suddenly there's the sound of thousands of tortured souls screaming out in abject horror" things to ask, but do some collectors like to paint their collectible fantasy figurines themselves? I'm wondering if a neutral color was chosen so it would be easier to paint over by people who like to do that sort of thing?
Kinda doubt it. More likely they genuinely thought the bronze statue thing was the way to go and I think people would have been more ok with it if the promotional art looked closer to the real thing.
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robertthebard✭✭✭✭✭ManwithBeard9 wrote: »robertthebard wrote: »Thevampirenight wrote: »They talked abut it on their last live stream they went for a look for like an item that had been logged buried and got excavated or something. So the idea behind this coloring that its old and the coloring went away. As it would as it ages.
So that is why it looks like this.
Ha
Haha
HAHAHAHAHHHAAHAHAHAAHAAAA *deep breath* hahahhahahahahahhahhaha!
That's great if it were an ancient piece of plastic.
You are aware, of course, that you could go to Greece and see a lot of base colored marble statues that were originally brightly painted? No? Why am I not surprised?
Yeah but when you see the statues in advertisements, are they painted or are they bare?
Were they painted? If they were going for a weathered look, and got one, what's so funny? No, that's rhetorical, because I understand: Hey look, another chance to bash ZoS.0 -
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✭✭SeaGtGruff wrote: »This might be one of those "Suddenly there's the sound of thousands of tortured souls screaming out in abject horror" things to ask, but do some collectors like to paint their collectible fantasy figurines themselves? I'm wondering if a neutral color was chosen so it would be easier to paint over by people who like to do that sort of thing?
Collectors do like to do that.
I mentioned it in my post further back in this thread.
Pewter miniatures for table-top RPGs are to a large degree sold unfinished (just as plain pewter) so that collectors can paint them according to their own desires.
You can buy them painted from some sources, usually for a much higher price, but I see them offered most often as unfinished.
Showing-off one's self-painted miniatures was a big part of the D&D paradigm when I was growing up, though I didn't participate in it. I collected a lot of miniatures, but I never painted them. I actually like the raw pewter look.
Painting such highly-detailed, tiny items was a task that was beyond my patience level.
Anyway, I would think that if that were the reason they shipped the statues in the state in which we are seeing, they would have just said so. It would be a totally legit reason, given its history in the gaming world.
But that's not what people were expecting when they plunked their coin down for the CE, since that's not how they advertised it in the marketing photos, and, further, that's not the reason they went with in the unboxing stream.0 -
KaGaOri✭✭✭✭Based on these latest pictures it seems half of this panic was caused by badly overexposed photo. That's the internet for you, I gues. Still would have prefered the darker more copperish look, though.Even if they wanted it to look like old bronze, that's totally how old bronze can look too. For example look at old greek statue "Artemision Bronze"(wanted to put link to wiki here, but it depicts pantsless guy and I have no idea how squeamish are these forums about that sort of thing and decided to not test it, so just google it if you're curious).1 -
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✭✭robertthebard wrote: »ManwithBeard9 wrote: »robertthebard wrote: »Thevampirenight wrote: »They talked abut it on their last live stream they went for a look for like an item that had been logged buried and got excavated or something. So the idea behind this coloring that its old and the coloring went away. As it would as it ages.
So that is why it looks like this.
Ha
Haha
HAHAHAHAHHHAAHAHAHAAHAAAA *deep breath* hahahhahahahahahhahhaha!
That's great if it were an ancient piece of plastic.
You are aware, of course, that you could go to Greece and see a lot of base colored marble statues that were originally brightly painted? No? Why am I not surprised?
Yeah but when you see the statues in advertisements, are they painted or are they bare?
Were they painted? If they were going for a weathered look, and got one, what's so funny? No, that's rhetorical, because I understand: Hey look, another chance to bash ZoS.
Because they advertised a product, a specific model with a particular paint scheme. And they are not delivering that product.3 -
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✭✭✭robertthebard wrote: »ManwithBeard9 wrote: »robertthebard wrote: »Thevampirenight wrote: »They talked abut it on their last live stream they went for a look for like an item that had been logged buried and got excavated or something. So the idea behind this coloring that its old and the coloring went away. As it would as it ages.
So that is why it looks like this.
Ha
Haha
HAHAHAHAHHHAAHAHAHAAHAAAA *deep breath* hahahhahahahahahhahhaha!
That's great if it were an ancient piece of plastic.
You are aware, of course, that you could go to Greece and see a lot of base colored marble statues that were originally brightly painted? No? Why am I not surprised?
Yeah but when you see the statues in advertisements, are they painted or are they bare?
Were they painted? If they were going for a weathered look, and got one, what's so funny? No, that's rhetorical, because I understand: Hey look, another chance to bash ZoS.
Yes, there are pics of the advertising pic in this very thread.
It is painted a completely different colour to the one delivered.
I quite like the ancient bronze artifact look.
In fact, I think I might like it better than the dark brown, fake bronze colour of the advertised statuette.
However, legally speaking, you are not supposed to falsely advertise a product.
Even if the product you deliver is, arguably, better than the product you advertised, it is still classified as SNAD (Significantly Not As Described) and requires you to give a refund, on request.
Also, the head looks like it is at a completely different angle from the advertised one, in one of the pics.
I think that would make it SNAD, too, assuming it actually is?
Personally, I would probably keep it, if I had wanted it enough to buy it in the first place (which I didn't!), but still.Edited by Tigerseye on May 25, 2020 9:47PM1 -
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✭✭✭Based on these latest pictures it seems half of this panic was caused by badly overexposed photo. That's the internet for you, I gues. Still would have prefered the darker more copperish look, though.Even if they wanted it to look like old bronze, that's totally how old bronze can look too. For example look at old greek statue "Artemision Bronze"(wanted to put link to wiki here, but it depicts pantsless guy and I have no idea how squeamish are these forums about that sort of thing and decided to not test it, so just google it if you're curious).
Most bronzes haven't been buried for centuries, though, so it's not really the same thing.
They're saying this is supposed to look like an artifact from a digsite, not just like an old bronze figurine.0
