Someone got the statue and....

Danikat

Sigerk wrote: »

The lighting in that comparison picture is horrible, on this one it already looks better. Added another one to see it in multiple lighting settings. Lighting really does a lot for your picture and can make the difference between something pleasing to the eye or something ugly to look at. (Edit) White balance is also a thing to account for as is exposure and ISO values to a certain degree.

I was thinking the same thing. If you look at the top picture in the OP you can see the same thing with the dragon - the wing (and the stone underneath it) closest to the vampire lord statue looks grey, it doesn't appear to match the rest of the model. Assuming there wasn't some glitch where that side was left unpainted the most likely explaination is the brighter light makes both look washed out.

IMO it doesn't look fantastic in the other pictures either, but at least it's not completely unpainted.

bearbelly wrote: »

SeaGtGruff wrote: »

This might be one of those "Suddenly there's the sound of thousands of tortured souls screaming out in abject horror" things to ask, but do some collectors like to paint their collectible fantasy figurines themselves? I'm wondering if a neutral color was chosen so it would be easier to paint over by people who like to do that sort of thing?

Collectors do like to do that.
I mentioned it in my post further back in this thread.

Pewter miniatures for table-top RPGs are to a large degree sold unfinished (just as plain pewter) so that collectors can paint them according to their own desires.
You can buy them painted from some sources, usually for a much higher price, but I see them offered most often as unfinished.

Showing-off one's self-painted miniatures was a big part of the D&D paradigm when I was growing up, though I didn't participate in it. I collected a lot of miniatures, but I never painted them. I actually like the raw pewter look.
Painting such highly-detailed, tiny items was a task that was beyond my patience level.

Anyway, I would think that if that were the reason they shipped the statues in the state in which we are seeing, they would have just said so. It would be a totally legit reason, given its history in the gaming world.
But that's not what people were expecting when they plunked their coin down for the CE, since that's not how they advertised it in the marketing photos, and, further, that's not the reason they went with in the unboxing stream.

It still is a popular thing to do. One guy at my work practically has a second job painting miniatures for other people because he's really good at it and as well as a couple of DnD groups we have a fair sized board gaming club so there's lots of miniatures around.

But I agree that if that was the reason they should have said so, and should have made it clear before anyone pre-ordered because for everyone who likes to paint their own (or have someone else paint them) there's at least one person who just wants the official collectable in finished format to display. If they'd offered the choice between painted or unpainted that would be fine, but showing a model which looks finished and then selling an unpainted version is misleading.

I'm hoping that, as discussed above, it's a lighting issue more than anything and the model is less grey than it appears in that photo.

WhyMustItBe

It would be cool if you got to pick your color scheme at checkout, or something like that in the future.

JTD

I just received my Greymoor CE statue and i have to say i am disappointed. The statue is bare grey plastics with no shading or layer over it to make it look shaded. My other 3 statues (base game, morrowind and summerset) do have this paint layer which looks metallic and some shading.

This looks like a bad Warhammer figurine which i have to pain myself which i will do cause it does stand out in the row now. It does not look like the advert at all.

Elsonso

JTD wrote: »

I just received my Greymoor CE statue and i have to say i am disappointed. The statue is bare grey plastics with no shading or layer over it to make it look shaded. My other 3 statues (base game, morrowind and summerset) do have this paint layer which looks metallic and some shading.

This looks like a bad Warhammer figurine which i have to pain myself which i will do cause it does stand out in the row now. It does not look like the advert at all.

What about the bronze coloring that I see in other pictures?

agegarton

Does it come with a set of model paints so that you can paint it yourself ??

Tigerseye

JTD wrote: »

I just received my Greymoor CE statue and i have to say i am disappointed. The statue is bare grey plastics with no shading or layer over it to make it look shaded. My other 3 statues (base game, morrowind and summerset) do have this paint layer which looks metallic and some shading.

This looks like a bad Warhammer figurine which i have to pain myself which i will do cause it does stand out in the row now. It does not look like the advert at all.

Are you sure it's bare plastic and not just painted a fairly similar colour to bare plastic, as the other ones appear to be?

MornaBaine

Looks like a nice bit of bait and switch. I'll be curious to see what people actually end up getting. Guess you can just paint your own.

naga.

Greymoor CE edition statue paint coming soon to the Clown Store!

JTD

Tigerseye wrote: »

Are you sure it's bare plastic and not just painted a fairly similar colour to bare plastic, as the other ones appear to be?

I confirm its bare plastic. If it is not it's a very bland and even spray of grey which i cant scratch off with a modelling knife.

It does not come with model paints. (I am planning on undercoating it black. Heavy dry brush with grey then inking it black and dry brushing it grey and a very light dry brush with lighter grey.

There is NO bronze coloring on it as on the Molag Baal, Morrowind or Summerset statue.

If i didn't have all the others i would have let this one pass me by.

Knightpanther

My heart goes out to you folks who have paid a lot of money and essentially have been ripped off, just a shame that trading standards don't apply to online company's.

Be Safe

KaGaOri

Tigerseye wrote: »

KaGaOri wrote: »

Based on these latest pictures it seems half of this panic was caused by badly overexposed photo. That's the internet for you, I gues. Still would have prefered the darker more copperish look, though.Even if they wanted it to look like old bronze, that's totally how old bronze can look too. For example look at old greek statue "Artemision Bronze"(wanted to put link to wiki here, but it depicts pantsless guy and I have no idea how squeamish are these forums about that sort of thing and decided to not test it, so just google it if you're curious).

Most bronzes haven't been buried for centuries, though, so it's not really the same thing.

They're saying this is supposed to look like an artifact from a digsite, not just like an old bronze figurine.

I get the reasoning why they went with this look, just kind of wish they didn't as the other version appeals to me more.

MornaBaine wrote: »

Looks like a nice bit of bait and switch. I'll be curious to see what people actually end up getting. Guess you can just paint your own.

Careful with those paints, you guys! Sometimes it's just better leaving the paintless thing alone .

Elsonso

JTD wrote: »

Tigerseye wrote: »

Are you sure it's bare plastic and not just painted a fairly similar colour to bare plastic, as the other ones appear to be?

I confirm its bare plastic. If it is not it's a very bland and even spray of grey which i cant scratch off with a modelling knife.

It does not come with model paints. (I am planning on undercoating it black. Heavy dry brush with grey then inking it black and dry brushing it grey and a very light dry brush with lighter grey.

There is NO bronze coloring on it as on the Molag Baal, Morrowind or Summerset statue.

If i didn't have all the others i would have let this one pass me by.

If there is no bronze coloring, then I wonder if you got a defective one. There are pictures elsewhere of received statues that clearly show that the belt, base, and other parts have a light bronze coloring to them.

https://twitter.com/OrcTalk/status/1265231754916515842

technohic

I'm wondering if these aren't 3D printed and supposed to be airbrushed, but they only got so far into painting them before the workforce got quarantined so they just started boxing them up right out the printer. Would explain why some look different than others, and excuse the lack of ability to get them up to quality, but it would still be questionable to decide to go ahead and ship them anyway.

TheKingofSass

So mines arrived today, and it isn't as bad as the original pic posted here, to my relief. As someone mentioned it before, it's probably due very bad lighting conditions, cause in real life it actually does look like an ancient statue, and it has nice details on it.

There is indeed some bronze coloring going around, so if yours is just grey and washed out then uhh that maybe its it's a defect?? I def would contact support about it tbh.

ANYWAY, here are some pics.

Aelorin

For comparisson:

Close up look:

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/91/0f/b3/910fb3fa3a85e54f201b419c09ef050c.jpg

Comparisson with the other statues:

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/70/4a/32/704a3280c5f7174c644a871004ca770f.jpg

Unfortunately my cat did not like Mephala, so she has only 4 spider legs left. Now that is a real bummer

rotaugen454

Amazon still can't tell me when I will get mine. The poster above me has me thinking it will look ok.

silvereyes

Raisin wrote: »

Thevampirenight wrote: »

They talked abut it on their last live stream they went for a look for like an item that had been logged buried and got excavated or something. So the idea behind this coloring that its old and the coloring went away. As it would as it ages.
So that is why it looks like this.

It genuinely doesn't look like that though. It looks completely unpainted and untarnished, no texture, etc. Just like cheap plastic.

Yeah, I thought when I saw the unboxing that loremaster Tuttle did, the color didn’t look anything like what they were saying. I assumed it was just some bad auto color thing from his webcam. Seems I should have trusted my own eyes.

gatekeeper13

TheKingofSass wrote: »

So mines arrived today, and it isn't as bad as the original pic posted here, to my relief. As someone mentioned it before, it's probably due very bad lighting conditions, cause in real life it actually does look like an ancient statue, and it has nice details on it.

There is indeed some bronze coloring going around, so if yours is just grey and washed out then uhh that maybe its it's a defect?? I def would contact support about it tbh.

ANYWAY, here are some pics.

Still looks washed out and totally different than the one advertised.

Raisin

TheKingofSass wrote: »

So mines arrived today, and it isn't as bad as the original pic posted here, to my relief. As someone mentioned it before, it's probably due very bad lighting conditions, cause in real life it actually does look like an ancient statue, and it has nice details on it.

There is indeed some bronze coloring going around, so if yours is just grey and washed out then uhh that maybe its it's a defect?? I def would contact support about it tbh.

ANYWAY, here are some pics.

That one definitely looks best from the ones I seen. Perhaps it is a matter of photo quality as well, as I do think the contrast makes a bit difference.

What keeps getting me is that I feel like it lacks the proper finish, or texture, or something. Maybe something like a wash (as I believe the 40k/dyi crowd call it), that just adds more depths to the groves? I believe that would have made it look more antique/tarnished. What people are getting seems to look too clean/untouched.

TheKingofSass

Raisin wrote: »

That one definitely looks best from the ones I seen. Perhaps it is a matter of photo quality as well, as I do think the contrast makes a bit difference.

What keeps getting me is that I feel like it lacks the proper finish, or texture, or something. Maybe something like a wash (as I believe the 40k/dyi crowd call it), that just adds more depths to the groves? I believe that would have made it look more antique/tarnished. What people are getting seems to look too clean/untouched.

Agreed, some extra textures would have made it better or some extra deep coloring.

I still feel they kinda did false advertising with the promo, cause no doubt they used some lighting tricks to make it look like that, the promo should have resembled more to the final product.

I'm just kinda relieved it didnt looked like the first pic posted here.

JTD

I am going to tests if the plastic itself is treatable with motoroil which i use to clean my Warhammer mini's from old paints. If that is the case and the plastic is not touched or warped in any way I'll be washing this with black ink / nuln oil citadel paint and see how that turns out.

The plastic itself feels like the old hero-quest models...or the older DnD plastics... pliable would be the english translation. I'd advice not to use aggressive cleaners on this like acetone or tinner because of the feel of this plastic.

But well I do not regret the purchase as I've kept the money aside. Just disjointed in the lack of a proper wash.

Bl00dSucker

I just did a repaint of my own Vampire Lord Statue, because I did not liked the original grey one...
Used "Spiritus" to remove the old paint - worked perfectly... Then added new colours and a proper wash. Colours sticked well to the material.

andreasv

Bl00dSucker wrote: »

I just did a repaint of my own Vampire Lord Statue, because I did not liked the original grey one...
Used "Spiritus" to remove the old paint - worked perfectly... Then added new colours and a proper wash. Colours sticked well to the material.

That is incredibly well done, and probably what they should have looked like in the first place!

Lord-Otto

Bl00dSucker wrote: »

I just did a repaint of my own Vampire Lord Statue, because I did not liked the original grey one...
Used "Spiritus" to remove the old paint - worked perfectly... Then added new colours and a proper wash. Colours sticked well to the material.

Holy moly, son, that is AWESOME!!!
d(Ô.Ô)

Lord-Otto

How did you do it? Airbrush and a normal brush here and there? What paint?
Are ZOS hiring you to do the next one?
;3

Bl00dSucker

Thank you very much, everyone!

Lord-Otto wrote: »

How did you do it? Airbrush and a normal brush here and there? What paint?
Are ZOS hiring you to do the next one?
;3

Yeah... most of it was made with an Airbrush - using airbrush specific paints from Vallejo. A proper wash next (here I use a selfmade wash), then finishing it with a few Citadel colours, using the drybrush technique, to hightlight some areas and add a little bit of patina for a nice extra detail - I still wanted to stick with the Idea, that the Statue looks somewhat older.

Lord-Otto

You did everything right there!

ArchangelIsraphel

Bl00dSucker wrote: »

I just did a repaint of my own Vampire Lord Statue, because I did not liked the original grey one...
Used "Spiritus" to remove the old paint - worked perfectly... Then added new colours and a proper wash. Colours sticked well to the material.

Kudos to you, that looks amazing. That really puts the original paint job to shame, honestly. You could probably go into business repainting these for people for a fee + shipping and handling.

jircris11

Lord-Otto wrote: »

I found the artist's blog a while ago. In fact, there were THREE artists working on it. One (the blogger) worked on legs, armor and - wings. One on face and torso, the last on the base and flames. The blogger also said the image used in promotion was made by ZOS. This means the statue's coloring in that image wasn't set in stone. And it seems we're getting a different color, closer to a vampire lord's actual skin color.
Honestly, the paint looks terrible. This can't be it.

Let's not forget lighting,filters and such in the advertising picture. It's a tactic used daily by fast food joints.

Phanex

Yea..i thought my meds made me color blind again, but nope, it sucks.