Earthewen wrote: »

Raudgrani wrote: »

Sange13 wrote: »

Raudgrani wrote: »

robertthebard wrote: »

The forums are policed at regular intervals, but the posts, unlike game dialog, don't go away in a few minutes. In order to police chat they would have to have someone logged in that can read every zone, every minute of every day. So maybe it's more unreasonable expectations?

I'm not even going to go into what's considered toxic, because someone could consider "Hey man, what's up" as toxic, while someone else, like me, who grew up with "*** you" as the same thing as good morning, may not see anything toxic or offensive.

Well, there should be an option to report specific comments "in-game", just easy like that. I'm not a very sensitive guy, and I'm against this constant tolerance this and respect that, be kind there and be friendly there - but some people are just too much. Being very personal and hostile, or like political extremism in area chats etc. Some people don't want to think of and see all that, that's even why some people even play the game I guess.

Absolutely not. Reporting should *only* before breaking ToS or cheating. Period. Everything else is interpersonal BS and should be handled at that level.

Well, threats, blatant racism and bullying IS "break ToS". So I don't really know what you are trying to say? It's not like it's helping anyone in any way if some people spam a hundred lines of same racist slurs, or go on and on about how someone sucks. Maybe not so usual in PVE areas, but in PVP it's not been uncommon. For some reason a few AD guys had the idea that I was non-white, and started some weird racist bullying posse towards me in EP area chat in Cyrodiil. I mean wtf., it's just wrong in every imaginable way, let alone the fact that I'm as white as a native Swede can ever get.

But that's "interpersonal" according to you, I suppose?

Just curious as to how you knew that they thought you were non-white? Were you argonian?

I have no idea.

To clarify, I am not non-white. I am a native white Nordic Swede, and I have never spoken about any racial/cultural matters in the game (so I can't have been misunderstood). My characters was even a blonde Nord, and even my gamertag suggest I'm of Nordic origin. But for some reason these AD players (all Germans btw., not that it matters - but it should be easier for them to realize they were wrong) got the impression I wasn't white, and they did their best to let me know how much they did (not) appreciate non-white enemies. Even people I'm not exactly friends with stepped in and was like "Well, that's enough now - stfu and go back to your AD toons".

Reason probably was that I was on a friggin' OP werewolf build back then, and because they died 1v4 towards me over and over - they didn't leave me alone. I started to go for them too (offense is best defense I guess) - and eventually this p****d them off badly. How they got the idea I wasn't white is still unknown to me, but it's a horrible behavior nonetheless (i mean, it could be right). No convenient way to report that, became an obvious flaw to me.

Also heard from female guild mates, that they have had very nasty whispers from certain players. Not like casual grooming, but stuff that's like even illegal in many countries. To be forced to go through screencap, uploading, reporting, linking image etc. makes these guys pretty safe in what they do.

khajiitNPC wrote: »

@Sange13 must be nice to live in a delusional world. No one said all trolling was racist/sexist/harassment. I listed very specific examples of “trolling”, that is not okay.

And yes, it’s not up to me to tell them, they are free to do what they want, but if they are being racist, sexually harassing people, being overtly offensive, then they get reported and they brought it on themselves. So kindly grow up.

I think the person that is reporting people over fee fees is the one that needs to do some growing up.

Sange13 wrote: »

stefan.gustavsonb16_ESO wrote: »

Indoril_Nerevar wrote: »

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You are right. It is a serious issue. Has been since MSN and Facebook were established😂
...[/b]

Those two platforms were launched almost two decades apart, in 1995 and 2004, respectively.

Young people these days. Also, get off my lawn!

I do agree with the general sentiment, though. The problem with the Internet is that there are people on it, and not all people are nice.

...2004
..-1995
_______
.........9

..."two decades apart"

1980-2000 = decade
2000-2020 = decade
Decade + decade = 2 decades

[snip]

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Sange13 wrote: »

Rave the Histborn wrote: »

Sange13 wrote: »

...2004
..-1995
_______
.........9

..."two decades apart"

1980-2000 = decade
2000-2020 = decade
Decade + decade = 2 decades

Public schools should be abolished

I'm not sure what you mean here.

Decade:
noun
1. a period of ten years.

The math I showed above is showing the difference in those times in years--nine, as in less than 10 but close enough to round it up to one decade. The comment I was laughing at said two decades apart. Basic math here, folks. My 6-year old niece could figure it out.

Sorry, I misread and thought it was generations not decades.

@Rave the Histborn dude I get it, you think there should be no consequences to your actions. Which is fine. Obviously I’m not talking about people trolling in a light hearted manner. And I agree to the extent that there are a lot of thin skinned cuckservatives and libtards whose only sense of identity is tied to some extreme political agenda.
Which is a whole other topic in itself. But if you’re ok with sexually harassing people, being racist, ect, well that’s on you. I’m rarely offended, and I never report anyone, in fact I’m reported a lot on the forums because people can’t handle a straight shooter. Unfortunately there’s a lot of red pill incels who believe they should be allowed to do anything without repercussions, unfortunately that’s not the real world. And if they get reported and there is PROOF they are harassing someone, that’s their own fault. I get the social contract is hard to understand. And I understand that human decency has been weaponized under the banner of political correctness, god forbid anyone being decent to one another.

@Sange13 Except ignore doesn’t do much, especially when the “virtual world” spills into the real world. I’ve known people who have put someone on their ignore list, but they continued to be harassed through other means. But yeah I know, it’s some liberal agenda *rolls eyes*, as if anyone’s information isn’t easily accessed.

And I absolutely get it, you think there’s no repercussions to your actions. Have fun with that.

nordmarian wrote: »

In some other games I often saw GM's playing among us and actually be visible in the game and distinguished than anyone else. I think this would be the solution for many problems caused at least in PvP area. And not only. However those people must be ZOS employees paid for this job and not in-game players choose'd by ZOS to represent them, as this can lead to an power abuse by some.

When I saw such situations I used to say few words like hey please keep the channel clear or please mind your language etc...
You can do same and if that doesn't work you can simply turn chat offline. If you are harassed via pm you can turn that off. As for mails. ZOS should add an option to allow a player to disable in-game mails at all or from people whom aren't friends, etc.
Also in PvP The idea of alliance lock private chat should be in place so players from different alliances could not whisper each other unless they are FRIENDS or share same GUILD.

Its not financially feasible for them to hire GM’s for pvp chat. There are 4 campaigns, 3 different platforms, and 3 different shifts to monitor. So they would have to hire at least 36 people and would cost them over $1.5 million a year when someone could just use the block feature.