Make PvP areas that PvE players have to pass by in order to continue doing PvE
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KMarble✭✭✭✭✭LoveForElderScrolls wrote: »BackStabeth wrote: »LoveForElderScrolls wrote: »xXMeowMeowXx wrote: »LoveForElderScrolls wrote: »People here are saying I made this thread because I'm not good at PvP and want to kill PvE players because they are an easy target. false, it will be much harder for me to do PvP because there will be huge groups of PvE players running around trying to kill one or two PvP players that are also grouped. Then why I want this? It's because I prefer doing something in PvP rather than doing nothing because nobody is there to fight. I prefer the challenge of fighting a massive group of players rather than having no challenge. I'm not looking to kill players that don't know how to PvP, I like the challenge of being outnumbered. I also want the PvP aspects of the game to be enhanced and that's why i call for PvE players to join PvP despite the fact PvE players will outnumber me like nothing I have seen before.
Then upload several videos of your 1 v X prowess. That way we can get a better idea of why you cannot find a good fight.
There are plenty of massive zergs with PvE players running around now for you to 1 v X like you are suggesting. So let’s see your experiment in action.
* and don’t be a bad puppy and use your friends to make said videos
Lol why should I prove my 1vx skills? It's not like PvP is bad right now and if pve players don't join PvP I will not enjoy it. this post is here just to make pvp better possibly and if pve players don't want to pvp that's their choice. Plus I used to care about 1vx a lot in the past but now I make my toon just for when I'm fighting alongside my friends and other people.
Personally, I could care less if you prove or do not prove any skills you may or may not have. In the way you have presented yourself, you have given the rest of us more than enough information to formulate unflattering opinions of you. It just so happens that some people are willing to give you the benefit of doubt, and ask for proof of your prowess before they take your own words to mean how you have expressed them. You should be thanking the people who ask, not laughing at them, they at least are giving you an opportunity to show you are not the person you have presented yourself as being.
I would be interested in reading your answer to this question.
PVE players are not equipped with the gear, with the skills, with point distribution or the experience to effectively engage in PvP. This means you literally are looking to fight weaker players so that you have a massive advantage. Do you understand this?
If I were to judge the type of player you are, based solely on what you have said here, it would not be kind. Is this really the person you wish to present yourself as being?
If I'm laughing and writing "lol" it's a positive expression that doesn't mean I don't like the person who made me laugh. If PvE players are together in a group or they are fighting other PvE players it doesn't matter if they are not equipped with gear or have the skills. This thread I posted is an idea. I'm not a developer and can't spend all day thinking about making a perfect idea but ideas can be perfected by other people and the developers. For example, when I said if PvE players can kill other PvE players at their level they might like PvP someone else wrote I don't like killing players that much and even if I'm good at PvP it doesn't appeal to me, someone else can suggest to include some other activities in PvP that don't involve killing players but still can be considered PvP.
Let me try an analogy.
I've spent 11 years of my school life being forced to go to PE (Physical Education) classes. For many of those years I had PE classes twice a week.
Funny thing about that, even thought I was forced into PE classes for 11 YEARS, it did not make me like PE.12 -
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✭I think both PVP and PVE players get a bad rap and there is too much generaliztion (at least in ESO). Sure there are some tools in both groups but by and large the majority in both groups are pretty nice people, some of whom have fallen into the trap of believing all the bad stuff spouted by the minority.
PVErs - If you go into a PVP zone you will probably be killed by another player. Don't take it personally, that's what PVP is about. Unless you are being griefed the PVP player is just playing the game and you just happen to be there.
PVPers - Not all PVE players are noobs, some are but want to learn to PVP. PVP can be very overwhelming for someone who has never done it. You can tell who we are LOL. A little guidance from you will go a long way to making me want to come back and learn more.
And to the PVP'ers that put up with me trying to learn last week, thanks for helpin to make my time there enjoyable and for clearly showing that the PVP stereotype is wrong!1 -
r3turn2s3nd3r✭✭✭✭✭LoveForElderScrolls wrote: »People here are saying I made this thread because I'm not good at PvP and want to kill PvE players because they are an easy target. false, it will be much harder for me to do PvP because there will be huge groups of PvE players running around trying to kill one or two PvP players that are also grouped. Then why I want this? It's because I prefer doing something in PvP rather than doing nothing because nobody is there to fight.LoveForElderScrolls wrote: »
Lol why should I prove my 1vx skills? It's not like PvP is bad right now and if pve players don't join PvP I will not enjoy it. this post is here just to make pvp better possibly and if pve players don't want to pvp that's their choice. Plus I used to care about 1vx a lot in the past but now I make my toon just for when I'm fighting alongside my friends and other people.
LOL, uh, so which one is it?2 -
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✭✭Alinhbo_Tyaka wrote: »LoveForElderScrolls wrote: »Alinhbo_Tyaka wrote: »LoveForElderScrolls wrote: »One of the reasons that PvE players might not be interested in doing PvP is that they don't find other players at their level that is easy for them to kill. By making PvP areas that other PvE players are there they can find other players at their level. If you make PvP areas that other PvE players have to pass by in order to continue doing PvE you can achieve this.
You will find the majority of the PvE players would just stop going. The old argument that someone will like something it if they just try it has never worked and never will. Well it might work for a small minority. If players actually had an interest in PvP, or to keep things balanced, high level instanced content you wouldn't have to try and coerce them to try them out. Instead they would just do it on their own. Then there is the group that has tried it and wants nothing to do with it.
Your argument is invalid.
Because you don't like it? The reality is most PvE players want nothing to do with PvP and nothing you do will change that. Adding a forced PvP situation will only reinforce their beliefs. I'm sorry you don't like it but those are the facts whether you like them or not.
Then why are so many people from my raid guilds in Cyrodil non-stop right now? The reality I've experienced is that the majority of players enjoy a wide variety of things in ESO, from PvE, to PvP, to overland questing and roleplaying, and any combination of those. If someone wants to be good at the game, they have to do both PvE and PvP already, whether they like it or not.PC/Xbox NA
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Coppes✭✭✭✭Give me a single gold for every time someone says PvE or PvP in this thread.
Honestly, the OG idea sounded bad to begin with. Which is why it hasn’t been implemented successfully.
For a great example, SWTOR had something very similar that was scrapped (changed into a PvP instance and PvE) because higher leveled players kept ganking people trying to do quests in a PvE zone.0 -
Hamfast✭✭✭✭✭LoveForElderScrolls wrote: »One of the reasons that PvE players might not be interested in doing PvP is that they don't find other players at their level that is easy for them to kill. By making PvP areas that other PvE players are there they can find other players at their level. If you make PvP areas that other PvE players have to pass by in order to continue doing PvE you can achieve this.
As I like to craft, how about to continue to progress in the game everyone will be required to craft their own armor and weapons... I do remember the advertisement where it was said the best gear in the game would be crafted, and I know that once people saw how fun crafting is they would all take up crafting...
I like to quest and know everyone would love the stories if they were only to try them, so part of the leveling and access to other parts of the game should be predicated on the advancement of quest lines that open new areas including PvP areas (beyond the requirement of level 10)
Oh, and anyone that disagrees with me has no valid arguments against it...
By the way, I totally disagree with both of my points and the OP, I played a game that required me to pvp to advance to the end game PvE content... I quit playing it... any time you force people to do something they do not enjoy doing, they will go find their fun someplace else...Of all the things I have lost, I miss my mind the most...4 -
qwudd✭✭✭Personally im finding The current structure quite Nice.
Many of us enjoy building ones account/character strength and find that the rewards from both frequent pvp (or AT least, pvdoor) and pve, to be The most efficient way towards a strong set of items.
After having played The game for awhile now im finding pvp more and more fun, and im finding myself farming AP this event for specifically pvp items this time around (full golded vicious death jewellry).
Zerging around cyrodiil of my own Will has steadily increased my Will to become more proficient AT pvp0 -
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STORY MODE DUNGEON PLAYERS: "We understand many players don't want to wait on us. We don't want to impose on them any more. Give us SOLO STORY MODE DUNGEONS."
PvP: "We understand many players don't want to play with us. Force them to play with us."Edited by Dusk_Coven on January 27, 2020 8:15PM17 -
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✭✭Alinhbo_Tyaka wrote: »LoveForElderScrolls wrote: »Alinhbo_Tyaka wrote: »LoveForElderScrolls wrote: »One of the reasons that PvE players might not be interested in doing PvP is that they don't find other players at their level that is easy for them to kill. By making PvP areas that other PvE players are there they can find other players at their level. If you make PvP areas that other PvE players have to pass by in order to continue doing PvE you can achieve this.
You will find the majority of the PvE players would just stop going. The old argument that someone will like something it if they just try it has never worked and never will. Well it might work for a small minority. If players actually had an interest in PvP, or to keep things balanced, high level instanced content you wouldn't have to try and coerce them to try them out. Instead they would just do it on their own. Then there is the group that has tried it and wants nothing to do with it.
Your argument is invalid.
Because you don't like it? The reality is most PvE players want nothing to do with PvP and nothing you do will change that. Adding a forced PvP situation will only reinforce their beliefs. I'm sorry you don't like it but those are the facts whether you like them or not.
Then why are so many people from my raid guilds in Cyrodil non-stop right now? The reality I've experienced is that the majority of players enjoy a wide variety of things in ESO, from PvE, to PvP, to overland questing and roleplaying, and any combination of those. If someone wants to be good at the game, they have to do both PvE and PvP already, whether they like it or not.
Why am I in Cyrodiil? To get tickets. Just because a player is in a PvP area doesn't mean they are participating in PvP. My time and other players I run into is spent doing PvE activities. I go around battles. On the rare occasions an opposing alliance player attacks me I stand there and wait for them to stop or I die then get back to my PvE activities. Once MM is over I and many other players won't be back in Cyrodiil until the next event to run more PvE content.
You are wrong in your assertion that you have to do PvP and PvE to be a good player. PvP and PvE in ESO are two different games. You can be a great PvP player and be the worst PvE player and visa versa. There is no reason a player has to, and most don't, do both. This is a fact whether you like it or not.7 -
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✭✭Alinhbo_Tyaka wrote: »Alinhbo_Tyaka wrote: »LoveForElderScrolls wrote: »Alinhbo_Tyaka wrote: »LoveForElderScrolls wrote: »One of the reasons that PvE players might not be interested in doing PvP is that they don't find other players at their level that is easy for them to kill. By making PvP areas that other PvE players are there they can find other players at their level. If you make PvP areas that other PvE players have to pass by in order to continue doing PvE you can achieve this.
You will find the majority of the PvE players would just stop going. The old argument that someone will like something it if they just try it has never worked and never will. Well it might work for a small minority. If players actually had an interest in PvP, or to keep things balanced, high level instanced content you wouldn't have to try and coerce them to try them out. Instead they would just do it on their own. Then there is the group that has tried it and wants nothing to do with it.
Your argument is invalid.
Because you don't like it? The reality is most PvE players want nothing to do with PvP and nothing you do will change that. Adding a forced PvP situation will only reinforce their beliefs. I'm sorry you don't like it but those are the facts whether you like them or not.
Then why are so many people from my raid guilds in Cyrodil non-stop right now? The reality I've experienced is that the majority of players enjoy a wide variety of things in ESO, from PvE, to PvP, to overland questing and roleplaying, and any combination of those. If someone wants to be good at the game, they have to do both PvE and PvP already, whether they like it or not.
Why am I in Cyrodiil? To get tickets. Just because a player is in a PvP area doesn't mean they are participating in PvP. My time and other players I run into is spent doing PvE activities. I go around battles. On the rare occasions an opposing alliance player attacks me I stand there and wait for them to stop or I die then get back to my PvE activities. Once MM is over I and many other players won't be back in Cyrodiil until the next event to run more PvE content.
You are wrong in your assertion that you have to do PvP and PvE to be a good player. PvP and PvE in ESO are two different games. You can be a great PvP player and be the worst PvE player and visa versa. There is no reason a player has to, and most don't, do both. This is a fact whether you like it or not.
The best PvP players have access to sets that require skilled PvE play to obtain (unless they have the gold to pay for it). The best PvE players have leveled up PvP skills needed to play their characters optimally. If they aren't crossing over, they are missing out on valuable items and skills needed to progress, which means that individual is not a good player because they lack the wherewithal to seek out the most effective gear/skills available to them. Good players don't pigeonhole themselves. I do both pretty extensively, and actually got into PvE only after I discovered how valuable the Masters weapons were for strong PvP builds, and then got hooked on that aspect of the game. Before that, I was closemindedly against all forms of PvE and spent my time exclusively in Cyrodil.PC/Xbox NA
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Ardan147✭✭✭✭TX12001rwb17_ESO wrote: »It is almost as if the Pure PvP Players do not realize they are the minority, ESO is mainly a PvE game, if you do not want to play PvE then you do not want to play ESO, i go play another game with superior combat mechanics if that is all you want.BackStabeth wrote: »LoveForElderScrolls wrote: »xXMeowMeowXx wrote: »LoveForElderScrolls wrote: »People here are saying I made this thread because I'm not good at PvP and want to kill PvE players because they are an easy target. false, it will be much harder for me to do PvP because there will be huge groups of PvE players running around trying to kill one or two PvP players that are also grouped. Then why I want this? It's because I prefer doing something in PvP rather than doing nothing because nobody is there to fight. I prefer the challenge of fighting a massive group of players rather than having no challenge. I'm not looking to kill players that don't know how to PvP, I like the challenge of being outnumbered. I also want the PvP aspects of the game to be enhanced and that's why i call for PvE players to join PvP despite the fact PvE players will outnumber me like nothing I have seen before.
Then upload several videos of your 1 v X prowess. That way we can get a better idea of why you cannot find a good fight.
There are plenty of massive zergs with PvE players running around now for you to 1 v X like you are suggesting. So let’s see your experiment in action.
* and don’t be a bad puppy and use your friends to make said videos
Lol why should I prove my 1vx skills? It's not like PvP is bad right now and if pve players don't join PvP I will not enjoy it. this post is here just to make pvp better possibly and if pve players don't want to pvp that's their choice. Plus I used to care about 1vx a lot in the past but now I make my toon just for when I'm fighting alongside my friends and other people.
Personally, I could care less if you prove or do not prove any skills you may or may not have. In the way you have presented yourself, you have given the rest of us more than enough information to formulate unflattering opinions of you. It just so happens that some people are willing to give you the benefit of doubt, and ask for proof of your prowess before they take your own words to mean how you have expressed them. You should be thanking the people who ask, not laughing at them, they at least are giving you an opportunity to show you are not the person you have presented yourself as being.
I would be interested in reading your answer to this question.
PVE players are not equipped with the gear, with the skills, with point distribution or the experience to effectively engage in PvP. This means you literally are looking to fight weaker players so that you have a massive advantage. Do you understand this?
If I were to judge the type of player you are, based solely on what you have said here, it would not be kind. Is this really the person you wish to present yourself as being?
Maybe that is why they want to PvP those who PvE, because they are so bad that they cannot beat anyone else.
Pretty much. Just look at all those gankers who attack from stealth, and of course they play nightblades so they can make themselves invisible at will and slip away before you can hit them back, wash rinse repeat, and there's practically no effective counterplay to it, other than be tanky enough that they can't kill you that way but you still have to deal with the nuisance of it. Magelight and Revealing Flare don't affect nearly a large enough area (very easy to hit a player from well outside of Magelight's radius) and they have to hit the ganker while stealthed in order to pull them out of stealth and give you a few seconds when they can't go invisible again; meanwhile once you're finished breaking free and doing whatever just to keep from dying (healing, putting up a shield, etc) they've cast Shadow Cloak and gone invisible again.This creature called a songbird. What a devious creation! This winged nuisance erodes sanity with its incessant chirping. What a brilliant form of torture!0 -
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✭✭✭The best PvP players have access to sets that require skilled PvE play to obtain (unless they have the gold to pay for it). The best PvE players have leveled up PvP skills needed to play their characters optimally.
<etcetera etcetera snip snip>
That's great. And good if you can actually find PvP in a competitive self-improvement spirit in ESO.
But what the OP is suggesting doesn't need any of that. They just need to recognize what a door looks like and kill people while they are still in a loading screen.
That already happened in the IC Sewers and I bet a lot of PvPers loved being on the receiving end.
Now the OP wants that spread all over Tamriel.
Nope.
Not because of the concept of open world PvP. But because of the type of people playing ESO.
It's always PEOPLE who ruin the game for others and that's not just limited to PvP. People stealing your quest objectives while you are fighting mobs, for example.Edited by Dusk_Coven on January 27, 2020 8:37PM1 -
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✭LoveForElderScrolls wrote: »One of the reasons that PvE players might not be interested in doing PvP is that they don't find other players at their level that is easy for them to kill. By making PvP areas that other PvE players are there they can find other players at their level. If you make PvP areas that other PvE players have to pass by in order to continue doing PvE you can achieve this.
I read this and my mind translated it to, "I want to gank low skilled players, make them come into a a pvp area so i can fulfill my gank fetish".
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✭✭Alinhbo_Tyaka wrote: »LoveForElderScrolls wrote: »Alinhbo_Tyaka wrote: »LoveForElderScrolls wrote: »One of the reasons that PvE players might not be interested in doing PvP is that they don't find other players at their level that is easy for them to kill. By making PvP areas that other PvE players are there they can find other players at their level. If you make PvP areas that other PvE players have to pass by in order to continue doing PvE you can achieve this.
You will find the majority of the PvE players would just stop going. The old argument that someone will like something it if they just try it has never worked and never will. Well it might work for a small minority. If players actually had an interest in PvP, or to keep things balanced, high level instanced content you wouldn't have to try and coerce them to try them out. Instead they would just do it on their own. Then there is the group that has tried it and wants nothing to do with it.
Your argument is invalid.
Because you don't like it? The reality is most PvE players want nothing to do with PvP and nothing you do will change that. Adding a forced PvP situation will only reinforce their beliefs. I'm sorry you don't like it but those are the facts whether you like them or not.
Then why are so many people from my raid guilds in Cyrodil non-stop right now? The reality I've experienced is that the majority of players enjoy a wide variety of things in ESO, from PvE, to PvP, to overland questing and roleplaying, and any combination of those. If someone wants to be good at the game, they have to do both PvE and PvP already, whether they like it or not.
Because people are there to do town quests to get tickets. Don't worry, in a few days the event will be over and Cyrodiil can go back to having one semi active campaign and three mostly dead ones."We have found a cave, but I don't think there are warm fires and friendly faces inside."4 -
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✭OP reminds me of those guys who think they could turn a gay woman straight if she slept with himEdited by TheGreatBlackBear on January 27, 2020 9:00PM12 -
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Sounds like my first and last incursion into a PVP server back when I played WoW. I wanted to try it out, thought fighting people my level could be fun. Instead, constant ganking by socially maladjusted people waaaay higher than me made me nope right out of that server.
So cue me going to Auberdine, or that area south of Auberdine. Whatever it's called. Cue a level 60-ish player running up and down the main road of that little town, slaughtering every NPC, including the flight master. Literally just sitting there to kill every lowbie who comes by, doing their story quests because they cannot fight back.
So I, as a NElf, shadowmeld into a bush near the main road, and open a trouble ticket. I mean,t his guy is only here to slaughter anyone who comes by, and no one of proper level for the area can ever fight back. This has to be griefing, right?
Cue me sitting in that bush for SIX HOURS (I watched TV in the meantime.) while this guy just ran back and forth, slaughtering people solely to ruin their fun, and slaughtering the Flight Master so no one can escape.
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✭✭Alienoutlaw wrote: »its called cyrodiil been about for awhile now
Seriously? I've never heard of that in all my travels, so you can PVE there and at the same time get killed by other players? Sounds like a real treat!Edited by Veinblood1965 on January 27, 2020 8:56PM1 -
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Sounds like my first and last incursion into a PVP server back when I played WoW. I wanted to try it out, thought fighting people my level could be fun. Instead, constant ganking by socially maladjusted people waaaay higher than me made me nope right out of that server.
So cue me going to Auberdine, or that area south of Auberdine. Whatever it's called. Cue a level 60-ish player running up and down the main road of that little town, slaughtering every NPC, including the flight master. Literally just sitting there to kill every lowbie who comes by, doing their story quests because they cannot fight back.
So I, as a NElf, shadowmeld into a bush near the main road, and open a trouble ticket. I mean,t his guy is only here to slaughter anyone who comes by, and no one of proper level for the area can ever fight back. This has to be griefing, right?
Cue me sitting in that bush for SIX HOURS (I watched TV in the meantime.) while this guy just ran back and forth, slaughtering people solely to ruin their fun, and slaughtering the Flight Master so no one can escape.
Real life PvP is competitive sports.
Properly designed MMO PvP is also competitive sports.
ESO PvP and the type of PvP described above has neither proper structure nor enough people with the proper mindset. It is a skid row that civilized people avoid.Edited by Dusk_Coven on January 27, 2020 9:01PM2 -
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✭Dusk_Coven wrote: »
Sounds like my first and last incursion into a PVP server back when I played WoW. I wanted to try it out, thought fighting people my level could be fun. Instead, constant ganking by socially maladjusted people waaaay higher than me made me nope right out of that server.
So cue me going to Auberdine, or that area south of Auberdine. Whatever it's called. Cue a level 60-ish player running up and down the main road of that little town, slaughtering every NPC, including the flight master. Literally just sitting there to kill every lowbie who comes by, doing their story quests because they cannot fight back.
So I, as a NElf, shadowmeld into a bush near the main road, and open a trouble ticket. I mean,t his guy is only here to slaughter anyone who comes by, and no one of proper level for the area can ever fight back. This has to be griefing, right?
Cue me sitting in that bush for SIX HOURS (I watched TV in the meantime.) while this guy just ran back and forth, slaughtering people solely to ruin their fun, and slaughtering the Flight Master so no one can escape.
Real life PvP is competitive sports.
Properly designed MMO PvP is also competitive sports.
ESO PvP and the type of PvP described above has neither proper structure nor enough people with the proper mindset. It is a skid row that civilized people avoid.
Yup, but I was young and naive and didn’t know any better, heh.0 -
SmukkeHeks✭✭✭✭✭Could not join my home campaign tonight so I’d try the seven days, non-cp, with my sorc.
It’s totally understandable why pve’ers doesn’t want to join a round of one faction keeping them at the gates, quite clear moves around just to kill everything and anyone that rides by.
I spent 15 minutes there and logged off. I do hope they got their fun, cause none others had any.
I totally get why the pvp is dying. Above kind killed it.2 -
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✭LoveForElderScrolls wrote: »xXMeowMeowXx wrote: »LoveForElderScrolls wrote: »People here are saying I made this thread because I'm not good at PvP and want to kill PvE players because they are an easy target. false, it will be much harder for me to do PvP because there will be huge groups of PvE players running around trying to kill one or two PvP players that are also grouped. Then why I want this? It's because I prefer doing something in PvP rather than doing nothing because nobody is there to fight. I prefer the challenge of fighting a massive group of players rather than having no challenge. I'm not looking to kill players that don't know how to PvP, I like the challenge of being outnumbered. I also want the PvP aspects of the game to be enhanced and that's why i call for PvE players to join PvP despite the fact PvE players will outnumber me like nothing I have seen before.
Then upload several videos of your 1 v X prowess. That way we can get a better idea of why you cannot find a good fight.
There are plenty of massive zergs with PvE players running around now for you to 1 v X like you are suggesting. So let’s see your experiment in action.
* and don’t be a bad puppy and use your friends to make said videos
Lol why should I prove my 1vx skills? It's not like PvP is bad right now and if pve players don't join PvP I will not enjoy it. this post is here just to make pvp better possibly and if pve players don't want to pvp that's their choice. Plus I used to care about 1vx a lot in the past but now I make my toon just for when I'm fighting alongside my friends and other people.
That pretty much answers what I thought. Nuff said’
Then your proposal has no merit. You said you wanted a challenge and you tucked your tail and ran from it. With that said, it seems you just want potatoes kill that are probably AFK.
For the most of us that actually enjoy PvP, we want to play against other PvP players. That is what makes it fun.
Maybe you should start by actually playing a full PvP campaign or in your case probably PvP....Cx
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✭If its just area I have to pass with pvp enabled without killing anything, then I'll just sneak and
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✭✭✭✭✭Can't we just delete pvp?
It has its upsides. And I say that as someone who pretty much hates PvP in this game. I actually bother with it here and there during events like this, and there's been good and bad experiences with that so far. It actually feels a bit better balanced than when I last bothered with it a year ago, which was one of the developer's stated goals. On the downside, the performance definitely feels worse than it did last year during the event so I get all the whining about it now. When I crash to dashboard within 5 minutes of entering Cyrodiil, that... that's some serious LOL.
If the developers really fix PvP - and my vision of fixing it is something I seriously doubt they will do - I'd probably play it fairly regularly. I'd always loved the idea of castle sieges. Remove all the vestiges from Cyrodiil and let us all play the rank-and-file soldiers and I'd be all in for it. There'd be set templates of soldier classes with fixed abilities you'd rank up through playing them. It'd be way easier to balance, way easier on performance, and feel more like a real military campaign. I would totally play a siege engineer. I'll crumple like a wad of paper to an infantry, but get me on a trebuchet and it's BOOM, baby!1 -
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✭Dusk_Coven wrote: »
I did all Cyro achievements like that, lol. I can't fish while hidden, yeah, but unless someone on purpose sits on top of the shard, no way they gonna spot me. I almost got ganked once while speaking with qest npc but then I quickly pop into mist and yeeted away with invis pot.0 -
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✭✭✭Remove all the vestiges from Cyrodiil and let us all play the rank-and-file soldiers and I'd be all in for it. There'd be set templates of soldier classes with fixed abilities you'd rank up through playing them. It'd be way easier to balance, way easier on performance, and feel more like a real military campaign.
Sounds a lot like https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars:_Battlefront which was successful enough to have sequels.
And yeah, sharply reducing skill sets would make balancing a lot easier.0 -
ian31416✭✭How would the OP feel if they were forced to do some fishing first, every time they wanted to play PvP?4
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