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The damn Signal Fire Zephyr achievement - Updated, whats wrong with me?!

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    I used rapids and a speed pot on my magnb, also making sure I had tri food on and still got it
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    I did it on 5 characters on first attempt this year, 7 in the previous years. I use the 4->3->1->2 path.In between 3 and 1 I jump down onto the roof below and continue. It's quite easy to do and it shortens the path quite a lot. My best time was with 26 seconds left on the clock. To get the achievement you need more than 20 I think.
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    SeaGtGruff wrote: »
    One thing I do is that after I light a fire, I turn and start running to the next one before the game acknowledges that the fire is lit. If you stand there and wait for the message to come up that you've lit each fire, you won't make it in time.
    Yes but it takes a sharp eye.
    DBZVelena wrote: »
    Between last year and now, ZoS changed how sprinting works. This might explain why you had such difficulty this year.

    Yep, I couldn’t do it for days on my new mag necro. And no one wanted to group.
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  • ProfessorKittyhawk
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    I managed to get the achievement on my mag necro Breton using a speed potion. I got it by the skin of my teeth but a large part of it is taking a precise path and avoiding the roaming npc's. Also, you don't have to stand there for the entire duration of the lighting animation. That can save a couple seconds.

    Only other thing you can do is group with someone and each of you take a 2 braziers apiece.
  • angelncelestine
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    I am not sure if anyone mentioned this or not, but some might not know. If you are fortunate enough to find a buddy to help, and for whatever reason you fail one of you can drop the quest, and re share. This allows for multiple tries in one day instead of just one. You can keep trying until you turn in the quest to Breda. Good luck everyone! :)
    Edited by angelncelestine on December 23, 2019 3:36PM
  • Sennecca
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    The path you take makes a huge difference in the achievement. If all else fails, you could also try using stam regen food and the thieves guild escape draught. it's one of the best speed pots out there.
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    myskyrim26 wrote: »
    The damn Signal Fire Zephyr achievement: how at all?
    I did it on my Altmer and Khajiit previously - last year or maybe 2 years before. It was easy because of their skills. Now I want my Imperial to get it and I fail even to complete the quest itself timely. Imperial stamDK. I use Rapid Maneuvr, it is rank 3 now, and I sprint. No result.
    Please, don't tell me to find someone to group with. I spent hours asking. I even offered gold. One person responded today, and he was even slower than me. We failed the quest itself. He didn't want to try again.

    Updated: I tried to run using Rapid Maneuvr, the Steed boon and Gold Coast Survivor Elixir. And I do sprint. And I do know the map. AND I STILL CAN'T BE FAST ENOUGH FOR THIS CRAP. What's wrong with me?!

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  • code65536
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    Here's a video demonstrating the most efficient path to take for the achievement associated with the Signal Fire Sprint quest of the New Life Festival.

    This was done with a new character with no Major (or Minor) Expedition (it hasn't reached level 10, so I can't even go to Cyrodiil to get Rapids even if I wanted to), no CP spent, no food active, no skill points spent in any passives (not that any of the skill lines are leveled enough to get any meaningful passives), and no Mundus Stone. This is to demonstrate that you don't need any special skills, passives, or stats to get this achievement.

    Just pick an efficient path and sprint.

    https://youtu.be/zH6Rmli1ZUE

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  • daemonios
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    Raisin wrote: »
    Technically Rapid Maneuver should be fine.

    Actually, rapid now only provides 8 seconds major expedition, which is the buff that applies to running (riding still gets 30 seconds buff). 8 seconds is not enough to ensure the achievement, and rapids is pretty expensive, especially on a magicka toon. You'll need to recast rapids (making sure you still have enough stamina to sprint) or use an alternative class or weapon skill that provides the buff.
  • Raisin
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    daemonios wrote: »
    Raisin wrote: »
    Technically Rapid Maneuver should be fine.

    Actually, rapid now only provides 8 seconds major expedition, which is the buff that applies to running (riding still gets 30 seconds buff). 8 seconds is not enough to ensure the achievement, and rapids is pretty expensive, especially on a magicka toon. You'll need to recast rapids (making sure you still have enough stamina to sprint) or use an alternative class or weapon skill that provides the buff.

    Maybe you should have quoted LITERALLY THE NEXT SENTENCE OF MY POST, where I VERY CLEARLY DEMONSTRATE I KNOW HOW LONG THE BUFF IS, so it's not just me who can laugh at you explaining things people already know. :)
    Raisin wrote: »
    I did it first try/by accident on warden with wings, which is the same buff as rapid just 2 seconds shorter.

    The reason I considered Maneuver viable is because DK doesn't have a class speed buff outside of chains, OP clearly stated they are a stamina character oh and...what's this... oh look, it's the rest of the post you didn't quote:
    Raisin wrote: »
    Make sure to recast it before it runs out, and have the stamina to sustain it. You can put CP into sprinter if you need to.

    Where I already said the exact same things you are now lecturing on. I guess you could've just quoted my post and said nothing, eh? Reading comprehension -10.
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    I only timed out the first time I tried it (and that was because I picked up the skyshard). I follow the order on that pic and use dash. None of my characters have the Steed or skills that increase speed.
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    Raisin wrote: »
    daemonios wrote: »
    Raisin wrote: »
    Technically Rapid Maneuver should be fine.

    Actually, rapid now only provides 8 seconds major expedition, which is the buff that applies to running (riding still gets 30 seconds buff). 8 seconds is not enough to ensure the achievement, and rapids is pretty expensive, especially on a magicka toon. You'll need to recast rapids (making sure you still have enough stamina to sprint) or use an alternative class or weapon skill that provides the buff.

    Maybe you should have quoted LITERALLY THE NEXT SENTENCE OF MY POST, where I VERY CLEARLY DEMONSTRATE I KNOW HOW LONG THE BUFF IS, so it's not just me who can laugh at you explaining things people already know. :)
    Raisin wrote: »
    I did it first try/by accident on warden with wings, which is the same buff as rapid just 2 seconds shorter.

    The reason I considered Maneuver viable is because DK doesn't have a class speed buff outside of chains, OP clearly stated they are a stamina character oh and...what's this... oh look, it's the rest of the post you didn't quote:
    Raisin wrote: »
    Make sure to recast it before it runs out, and have the stamina to sustain it. You can put CP into sprinter if you need to.

    Where I already said the exact same things you are now lecturing on. I guess you could've just quoted my post and said nothing, eh? Reading comprehension -10.

    1. Take a chill pill.
    2. You never clearly stated the duration of the buff. Many people missed the fact that rapids now provides different durations for major expedition and major gallop. I was clarifying that, and only that, as last year you would only have had to cast rapids once.
  • Veinblood1965
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    I had a rough time last year also. This year I'm leveling a new toon and it's stamina based so I just spring but I understand your frustration.

    This is how I did it last year on my Mag sorc. I swapped every think I could for extra stamina and recovery, I can't remember the set but i crafted a low level stamina set also. I had my stamina pool way up there just for that stupid run.

    Go up to the stairs to east and up those stairs and start with that one. Then as you light the first fire while it is getting started turn your toon so you are facing east and once it lets you run you sprint to the next which is on the south east corner, once you light that one turn north and get ready to run that direction once you are released and then so on and so on. It's easy that way as i had the same problem nobody likes to group for that one. After I did that it was easy enough.
  • Raisin
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    daemonios wrote: »
    Raisin wrote: »
    daemonios wrote: »
    Raisin wrote: »
    Technically Rapid Maneuver should be fine.

    Actually, rapid now only provides 8 seconds major expedition, which is the buff that applies to running (riding still gets 30 seconds buff). 8 seconds is not enough to ensure the achievement, and rapids is pretty expensive, especially on a magicka toon. You'll need to recast rapids (making sure you still have enough stamina to sprint) or use an alternative class or weapon skill that provides the buff.

    Maybe you should have quoted LITERALLY THE NEXT SENTENCE OF MY POST, where I VERY CLEARLY DEMONSTRATE I KNOW HOW LONG THE BUFF IS, so it's not just me who can laugh at you explaining things people already know. :)
    Raisin wrote: »
    I did it first try/by accident on warden with wings, which is the same buff as rapid just 2 seconds shorter.

    The reason I considered Maneuver viable is because DK doesn't have a class speed buff outside of chains, OP clearly stated they are a stamina character oh and...what's this... oh look, it's the rest of the post you didn't quote:
    Raisin wrote: »
    Make sure to recast it before it runs out, and have the stamina to sustain it. You can put CP into sprinter if you need to.

    Where I already said the exact same things you are now lecturing on. I guess you could've just quoted my post and said nothing, eh? Reading comprehension -10.

    1. Take a chill pill.
    2. You never clearly stated the duration of the buff. Many people missed the fact that rapids now provides different durations for major expedition and major gallop. I was clarifying that, and only that, as last year you would only have had to cast rapids once.

    It'll look less like backpaddling if you admit you were wrong. :p
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    Raisin wrote: »
    daemonios wrote: »
    Raisin wrote: »
    daemonios wrote: »
    Raisin wrote: »
    Technically Rapid Maneuver should be fine.

    Actually, rapid now only provides 8 seconds major expedition, which is the buff that applies to running (riding still gets 30 seconds buff). 8 seconds is not enough to ensure the achievement, and rapids is pretty expensive, especially on a magicka toon. You'll need to recast rapids (making sure you still have enough stamina to sprint) or use an alternative class or weapon skill that provides the buff.

    Maybe you should have quoted LITERALLY THE NEXT SENTENCE OF MY POST, where I VERY CLEARLY DEMONSTRATE I KNOW HOW LONG THE BUFF IS, so it's not just me who can laugh at you explaining things people already know. :)
    Raisin wrote: »
    I did it first try/by accident on warden with wings, which is the same buff as rapid just 2 seconds shorter.

    The reason I considered Maneuver viable is because DK doesn't have a class speed buff outside of chains, OP clearly stated they are a stamina character oh and...what's this... oh look, it's the rest of the post you didn't quote:
    Raisin wrote: »
    Make sure to recast it before it runs out, and have the stamina to sustain it. You can put CP into sprinter if you need to.

    Where I already said the exact same things you are now lecturing on. I guess you could've just quoted my post and said nothing, eh? Reading comprehension -10.

    1. Take a chill pill.
    2. You never clearly stated the duration of the buff. Many people missed the fact that rapids now provides different durations for major expedition and major gallop. I was clarifying that, and only that, as last year you would only have had to cast rapids once.

    It'll look less like backpaddling if you admit you were wrong. :p

    It's "back-pedalling", so I'll take your reading comprehension grading with a grain of salt if that's ok. I'm also not retracting anything. What I wrote in my first post you didn't address in yours. Have a merry one :)
  • Raisin
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    daemonios wrote: »
    Raisin wrote: »
    daemonios wrote: »
    Raisin wrote: »
    daemonios wrote: »
    Raisin wrote: »
    Technically Rapid Maneuver should be fine.

    Actually, rapid now only provides 8 seconds major expedition, which is the buff that applies to running (riding still gets 30 seconds buff). 8 seconds is not enough to ensure the achievement, and rapids is pretty expensive, especially on a magicka toon. You'll need to recast rapids (making sure you still have enough stamina to sprint) or use an alternative class or weapon skill that provides the buff.

    Maybe you should have quoted LITERALLY THE NEXT SENTENCE OF MY POST, where I VERY CLEARLY DEMONSTRATE I KNOW HOW LONG THE BUFF IS, so it's not just me who can laugh at you explaining things people already know. :)
    Raisin wrote: »
    I did it first try/by accident on warden with wings, which is the same buff as rapid just 2 seconds shorter.

    The reason I considered Maneuver viable is because DK doesn't have a class speed buff outside of chains, OP clearly stated they are a stamina character oh and...what's this... oh look, it's the rest of the post you didn't quote:
    Raisin wrote: »
    Make sure to recast it before it runs out, and have the stamina to sustain it. You can put CP into sprinter if you need to.

    Where I already said the exact same things you are now lecturing on. I guess you could've just quoted my post and said nothing, eh? Reading comprehension -10.

    1. Take a chill pill.
    2. You never clearly stated the duration of the buff. Many people missed the fact that rapids now provides different durations for major expedition and major gallop. I was clarifying that, and only that, as last year you would only have had to cast rapids once.

    It'll look less like backpaddling if you admit you were wrong. :p

    It's "back-pedalling", so I'll take your reading comprehension grading with a grain of salt if that's ok. I'm also not retracting anything. What I wrote in my first post you didn't address in yours. Have a merry one :)

    Ah yes, the classic "non-native english speaker made one spelling mistake so me having been factually wrong vanished into thin air". Skillfully executed.
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    I remember the first few times I tried this one. Just couldn't finish. Then I increased my stamina with food and planned out the best route I could think of. Crazy easy now.
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    Streega wrote: »
    I don't understand how it's possible to fail it at all. I just did it on lvl 30-ish High Elf sorc with 10k stamina - no food, no potions, just sprinting. My advice is: go and practice your path before you start the quest. If you do it with a buddy, one of you should take the two north braziers, the other one takes the southern braziers. It takes literally max 15 sec, but you need to coordinate.

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    I start at 2 go to 1 jump off and go to 4 then make 3 my last never once have i failed doing it this way
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    myskyrim26 wrote: »
    The damn Signal Fire Zephyr achievement: how at all?
    I did it on my Altmer and Khajiit previously - last year or maybe 2 years before. It was easy because of their skills. Now I want my Imperial to get it and I fail even to complete the quest itself timely. Imperial stamDK. I use Rapid Maneuvr, it is rank 3 now, and I sprint. No result.
    Please, don't tell me to find someone to group with. I spent hours asking. I even offered gold. One person responded today, and he was even slower than me. We failed the quest itself. He didn't want to try again.

    Updated: I tried to run using Rapid Maneuvr, the Steed boon and Gold Coast Survivor Elixir. And I do sprint. And I do know the map. AND I STILL CAN'T BE FAST ENOUGH FOR THIS CRAP. What's wrong with me?!

    is called learn to play...there I have been helpful!
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    Sorry its no help but I did it solo with Accelerate skill on magicka sorcerer no problems?
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    Hallothiel wrote: »
    SeaGtGruff wrote: »
    One thing I do is that after I light a fire, I turn and start running to the next one before the game acknowledges that the fire is lit. If you stand there and wait for the message to come up that you've lit each fire, you won't make it in time.

    Tried that and had to go back & light fire properly 😕

    I too am having probs with this achievement this year - even on stam ones! 😩 So OP not alone....

    I usually wait just long enough to light it and then run away, but this morning I did that, too-- ran away too soon and had to go back. After you've done it enough times, you'll get to where you know how long to pause before you can safely turn and run away-- something like half a second, maybe.
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  • ShawnLaRock
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    Streega wrote: »
    I don't understand how it's possible to fail it at all. I just did it on lvl 30-ish High Elf sorc with 10k stamina - no food, no potions, just sprinting. My advice is: go and practice your path before you start the quest. If you do it with a buddy, one of you should take the two north braziers, the other one takes the southern braziers. It takes literally max 15 sec, but you need to coordinate.

    shdKuiK.png

    I’m a 4-3-2-1 kinda runner, myself - and love to run Rapids & Refreshing Path. NP with time or achievement even with the long back-track.

    S.
  • Mixith
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    Something that might help is that you dont actually need to stay on the fire for the whole animation, you only need to stay like a second-ish for each fire and it cuts down the time quite a bit compared to watching the whole lighting animation play out!

    Edit: I also run it 4, 3, 2, 1 according to the map someone posted here. No rapids needed but it helps! :smile:
    Edited by Mixith on December 23, 2019 11:10PM
  • ShawnLaRock
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    ^ My sprint parse on the Signal Fire is so much better when I animation-cancel. ;)

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  • Cirantille
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    I got this achievement on my stamina-pleb magplar (10k) by accident, dont know how :D

    Couldn't get it again so I grouped up with others
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    code65536 wrote: »
    Streega wrote: »
    I don't understand how it's possible to fail it at all. I just did it on lvl 30-ish High Elf sorc with 10k stamina - no food, no potions, just sprinting. My advice is: go and practice your path before you start the quest. If you do it with a buddy, one of you should take the two north braziers, the other one takes the southern braziers. It takes literally max 15 sec, but you need to coordinate.

    shdKuiK.png

    I've always run 4-3-1-2, never failed it in all the years of running it. Your path is rather inefficient.

    In any case, selecting an efficient path is arguably more important than using rapids.

    I run it 2-1-4-3 You can jump off the wall at one and run across to the stairs to get to four then on to three.
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    WiseSky wrote: »
    5 Cowards gear + 5 jailbreaker

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    It's easy, using the map someone posted earlier, just go 2-1-3-4 or 4-3-1-2 (it's the same either way). All you need is 2 casts of rapid maneuver most basic rank 1, and a stamina potion (the normal ones you loot from enemies) used in between casts. This works regardless of stamina or magicka build.

    If you need me to be more specific, try using 2-1-3-4, the longer distance between 2-1 and then 1-3 would be optimal to make better use of rapid maneuver casts at the beginning.
    Edited by oddbasket on December 24, 2019 12:24PM
  • Knightpanther
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    Streega wrote: »
    I don't understand how it's possible to fail it at all. I just did it on lvl 30-ish High Elf sorc with 10k stamina - no food, no potions, just sprinting. My advice is: go and practice your path before you start the quest. If you do it with a buddy, one of you should take the two north braziers, the other one takes the southern braziers. It takes literally max 15 sec, but you need to coordinate.

    shdKuiK.png

    This is the route I took when I did this on my main first time round, I don't really play alts but to see if its changed I used my 27 necro mage - (21k stamina) - used the above route and 1 Gold Coast Swift Survivor Potion (the free stuff that piles up in your bank).
    Did it first time with just using sprint, so as long as you get the timing right on the braziers (don't hang around!) its easily doable.

    Be safe
  • Hallothiel
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    Tried 2-1-4-3 and got the achievement on my stam deficient magblade, so many many thanks for that advice!! 🥂😁
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