Taleof2Cities wrote: »Not sure if I understand ... you’re looking for the second best event style weapon set behind the Prophet?
Do you mean the Prophet's weapons you get from level up rewards? Most set items will be better, because Prophet's weapons only give 1 bonus (extra health) and most sets have 4 bonuses, although you need 5 items (weapons or armour) from the set to get all those bonuses.
VaranisArano wrote: »You seem to want to use multiple weapons in combat? Aka bar-swapping?
You can only have up to two weapon types equipped at once. You can swap freely between any weapon in your inventory in between combat, but not while you are in combat. Which two weapon types you choose, or whether you swap weapons around whenever you feel like it is 100% up to you and how much you level those weapons. "Battle the way you like" and all that. You can collect as many weapons as your inventory will hold, though as mentioned, you'll miss out on set bonuses unless you collect the rest of the set.
That being said, ESO does not guarantee that every combination of weapons and build is effective. Its not. I played a health-based MagDK wielding sword and shield like it was Skyrim for a long time before I realized it wasn't effective for anything harder than overland content - it was fun, but not effective. If that doesn't matter to you, such as if you only care about overland content, then more power to you. "Battle the way you like."
If you want to be effective AND you want to play equally with both Staff and Sword, there's one set that will let you do that. Stack weapon damage since its easier to acquire and wear Pelinal's Aptitude gear. The extra weapon and spell damage that set gives will let you compensate in part for losing out on the specialization into magicka or stamina that most players do.
If that wasn't a helpful answer...sorry. Please clarify what type of information you are collecting so we can better help you - we're trying to understand your needs, so please don't condescend with that "from you all's perspective" stuff when we're trying to figure out your perspective.
DarkLordLegion wrote: »VaranisArano wrote: »You seem to want to use multiple weapons in combat? Aka bar-swapping?
You can only have up to two weapon types equipped at once. You can swap freely between any weapon in your inventory in between combat, but not while you are in combat. Which two weapon types you choose, or whether you swap weapons around whenever you feel like it is 100% up to you and how much you level those weapons. "Battle the way you like" and all that. You can collect as many weapons as your inventory will hold, though as mentioned, you'll miss out on set bonuses unless you collect the rest of the set.
That being said, ESO does not guarantee that every combination of weapons and build is effective. Its not. I played a health-based MagDK wielding sword and shield like it was Skyrim for a long time before I realized it wasn't effective for anything harder than overland content - it was fun, but not effective. If that doesn't matter to you, such as if you only care about overland content, then more power to you. "Battle the way you like."
If you want to be effective AND you want to play equally with both Staff and Sword, there's one set that will let you do that. Stack weapon damage since its easier to acquire and wear Pelinal's Aptitude gear. The extra weapon and spell damage that set gives will let you compensate in part for losing out on the specialization into magicka or stamina that most players do.
If that wasn't a helpful answer...sorry. Please clarify what type of information you are collecting so we can better help you - we're trying to understand your needs, so please don't condescend with that "from you all's perspective" stuff when we're trying to figure out your perspective.
You guys are bringing up 'skills' when I have been discussing weapons. There are bow, staff, 1h weapon, 2h weapon, and shield. Within these groups there are different types. Beyond that, there are different styles of them as well. Since you guys continue to bring up 'Skills' There are two groups of skills I would be using. Weapon Skills and Class Skills. These skills are always going to be changing base on what type of set up I am going to be using. Oh I forgot to mention that the weapons are also group into two section: Close Range and Long Range. There is nothing wrong with your style of wanting to fighting or collect the items in a fast speed. All I am after are weapons. In a way of taking my time and enjoy the scenery and spend time in fighting with different types of weapons instead of having to stick with two weapons.
VaranisArano wrote: »
Okay, so if I understand you correctly, you want to take your time, enjoying yourself by using as many different weapon types in combat as possible?
Cool! Here's how that works in ESO.
Yeah, there are different weapon types, and you can equip up to two at a time. Bow/Staff, Bow/2Handed, Bow/1Hand and Shield, Bow/Dual Wield or Staff/Bow, Staff/2handed, ...you get the picture. You swap between your two equipped weapons by barswapping, which unlocks at level 15. Prior to that, you only get one equipped weapon.
There's no way for you to equip more than 2 weapons at a time. You can change out your equipped weapon types in between combat, but not in the middle of combat. If on PC, you can use a gear swap addon or gear+skill swap addon to make this swapping quicker, but again, you cannot change your equipped weapons in combat. If you are not on PC or don't use the addons, you are going to have to manually change your equipped weapons/weapon skills every time you want to change.
So yes, you can use different weapon types. Using whatever you feel like, It'll look something like:
Fight 1: use bow and staff
Swap
Fight 2: use 1h and shield + a 2hander
Swap
Fight 3: use bow and dual wield.
What you cannot do is swap between more than two weapons in a fight. You can't:
Fire my bow from range, then charge in with the two-hander, block with my shield, and finish off with a flurry of daggers....in the same combat. That's possible in Skyrim, but not in ESO.
The vast majority of sets will drop all weapon types, so if you find a set you like, you can simply collect all the weapons and use them as you see fit. Or you can ignore sets entirely and pick up gear from quest rewards and use what you find.
The reason I suggested Pelinal's Aptitude is that it will boost whatever weapon type combo you choose to run (staff, Bow, dual wield, 2handed, 1 hand and shield), which is not true of other sets, which generally only boost Either staffs OR the stamina weapons. But as I said, ignore that if you don't care about sets.
Hope that helps explain what's possibly using different weapon types and what options you have.
DarkLordLegion wrote: »VaranisArano wrote: »
Okay, so if I understand you correctly, you want to take your time, enjoying yourself by using as many different weapon types in combat as possible?
Cool! Here's how that works in ESO.
Yeah, there are different weapon types, and you can equip up to two at a time. Bow/Staff, Bow/2Handed, Bow/1Hand and Shield, Bow/Dual Wield or Staff/Bow, Staff/2handed, ...you get the picture. You swap between your two equipped weapons by barswapping, which unlocks at level 15. Prior to that, you only get one equipped weapon.
There's no way for you to equip more than 2 weapons at a time. You can change out your equipped weapon types in between combat, but not in the middle of combat. If on PC, you can use a gear swap addon or gear+skill swap addon to make this swapping quicker, but again, you cannot change your equipped weapons in combat. If you are not on PC or don't use the addons, you are going to have to manually change your equipped weapons/weapon skills every time you want to change.
So yes, you can use different weapon types. Using whatever you feel like, It'll look something like:
Fight 1: use bow and staff
Swap
Fight 2: use 1h and shield + a 2hander
Swap
Fight 3: use bow and dual wield.
What you cannot do is swap between more than two weapons in a fight. You can't:
Fire my bow from range, then charge in with the two-hander, block with my shield, and finish off with a flurry of daggers....in the same combat. That's possible in Skyrim, but not in ESO.
The vast majority of sets will drop all weapon types, so if you find a set you like, you can simply collect all the weapons and use them as you see fit. Or you can ignore sets entirely and pick up gear from quest rewards and use what you find.
The reason I suggested Pelinal's Aptitude is that it will boost whatever weapon type combo you choose to run (staff, Bow, dual wield, 2handed, 1 hand and shield), which is not true of other sets, which generally only boost Either staffs OR the stamina weapons. But as I said, ignore that if you don't care about sets.
Hope that helps explain what's possibly using different weapon types and what options you have.
You are talking about ESO 3 aka Chapter 2 aka Summerset. Also deals with Psijic Order. That would required level 50 and 160 or 150 Champion Points.
Another point to this is an additional bonus leveling up the weapon skills, armor skills and even guild skills. Now debating if Cadwell Silver and Gold is worth to doing since my lvl 38 character already gotten through the main storyline and went through the Ebonheart Pact missions.
VaranisArano wrote: »Excuse me? Nothing in my comment has anything to do with Summerset or the Psijic Order. In fact, the only level requirement I mentioned is level 15 when you unlock the ability to equip a second weapon at a time. (And if you own Summerset, you could go there at level 1 if you wanted. There's no level or CP requirement for chapters, so I'm doubly confused as what you think I'm talking about.)
What are you talking about with the Psijic Order and CP 160? What you've said makes no sense as a response to what I wrote.
VaranisArano wrote: »The reason I suggested Pelinal's Aptitude is that it will boost whatever weapon type combo you choose to run (staff, Bow, dual wield, 2handed, 1 hand and shield), which is not true of other sets, which generally only boost Either staffs OR the stamina weapons. But as I said, ignore that if you don't care about sets.
DarkLordLegion wrote: »VaranisArano wrote: »Excuse me? Nothing in my comment has anything to do with Summerset or the Psijic Order. In fact, the only level requirement I mentioned is level 15 when you unlock the ability to equip a second weapon at a time. (And if you own Summerset, you could go there at level 1 if you wanted. There's no level or CP requirement for chapters, so I'm doubly confused as what you think I'm talking about.)
What are you talking about with the Psijic Order and CP 160? What you've said makes no sense as a response to what I wrote.VaranisArano wrote: »The reason I suggested Pelinal's Aptitude is that it will boost whatever weapon type combo you choose to run (staff, Bow, dual wield, 2handed, 1 hand and shield), which is not true of other sets, which generally only boost Either staffs OR the stamina weapons. But as I said, ignore that if you don't care about sets.
What I had said makes no sense? It is clearly stated that you did mention Pelinal's Aptitude. It seems that you did not mention about several levels of research, also did not mention that the Pelinal's Aptitude can be either light armor or medium armor. You also didn't stated the material requirements for Pelinal's Aptitude.
Pelinal's Aptitude
2 items: Adds 14-1206 Maximum Health
3 items: Adds 1-129 Stamina Recovery
4 items: Adds 1-129 Magicka Recovery
5 items: Your Spell and Weapon Damage both become the highest of the two values.
You forgot to mention that Spell and Weapon Damage take priority over the two values of Sta and Mag Recovery.
So what does Spell and Weapon Damage have to do with the six weapons skill line? Especially if there is going to be a change of weapon and its skill power? What does that have to do with increase Magicka power and Fighting Power, as well as Health Power? Or about the increase of MP, FP, and HP recovery?
Sets do not have material requirements, equipment levels do.
Joining a helpful guild can help you get sets made that your not ready to make yourself.
Weapon or Physical Damage is part of the damage equation, more so than what the weapon damage is. Attributes have a big impact on the amount of damage you can do.
While this is an older post, the math equation is pretty much the same today. It shows you how all the facets come together. Stamina is pretty much the same, just plug in different resources
https://tamrielfoundry.com/articles/pts-2-1-2-sorcerer-arithmagic/
As for regen, well, if you have no resources in the pool, your not doing any significant damage. Use Regen or Cost Reduction and your Rotation to balance your damage output with Resources used.
VaranisArano wrote: »Oh, hi. Its been what, a month? Hope you've been enjoying ESO.
As Nestor kindly pointed out, damage as a whole comes from several sources. Weapon or Spell Damage is a part of that calculation. The amount of Stamina or Magicka you have is also part of that calculation, hence why the majority of builds chose one or the other and stick with the weapons that match. Health is rarely a factor in dealing damage - its more useful in the tanking role.
Normally, stamina based weapons like bow, one hand and shield, dual wield, etc. Increase their damage based on Weapon damage (among other factors). Normally, magicka based weapons like staffs increase their damage based on Spell Damage (among other factors).
Due to only being able to equip so many gear pieces, its very difficult to buff BOTH stamina-based and magicka-based weapons at the same time. With one major exception...Pelinal's Aptitude. That set lets you stack up weapon damage (the easier of the two to acquire through other means), and have it count as the same amount of Spell Damage. Meaning it buffs ALL weapon types no matter which one you use. Its also a crafted set, so you can craft it, buy it, or find someone to craft it for you. I'm sorry if that wasn't clear originally, I assumed that was basic knowledge.
You don't have to use Pelinal's Aptitude. I just think it would be an effective set for using all the weapon skill lines.
But frankly, you play how you like. I'm not terribly interested in continuing to explain how a set works if its not something you want.
thadjarvis wrote: »I may not be understanding correctly you want variety of weapons for diversity of play-style and look. I think I saw that you are level 38. Honestly, detailed set selection isn't going to have much of an effect because by the time you obtain those items you will out-level the gear (this stops at level 50 + CP 160)./quote]thadjarvis wrote: »ESO is designed such that you don't have to think about sets along with the other complexity until you hit CP 160.
There is never any "out-level the gear' when it comes to either PvE or PvP, because it is apart of what ESO is all about. Ever since I first started this game, I have been spending time in looking for information. I continue do so, even at the time of being 180 champion. From lvl 50 to lvl 50 810 is many levels to collect and etc before the final level of lvl 50-810 Champion is reached.
DarkLordLegion wrote: »There is never any "out-level the gear' when it comes to either PvE or PvP, because it is apart of what ESO is all about. Ever since I first started this game, I have been spending time in looking for information. I continue do so, even at the time of being 180 champion. From lvl 50 to lvl 50 810 is many levels to collect and etc before the final level of lvl 50-810 Champion is reached.
DarkLordLegion wrote: »-Face Palm- You all....
I am going to clear up things in my forum post.
i doubt that any of you can actual know what I am talking about.
If you still can't understand that. Well, you shouldn't be making comments in my posts then.
kringled_1 wrote: »DarkLordLegion wrote: »-Face Palm- You all....
I am going to clear up things in my forum post.
i doubt that any of you can actual know what I am talking about.
If you still can't understand that. Well, you shouldn't be making comments in my posts then.
Unfortunately at least for me that didn't clear things up at all, and I believe you're correct that no one here knows what you're talking about. I see a lot of posts from well informed long term posters who are trying to be helpful, and I see your comments, which from my point of view are disjointed,and seem to connect things that aren't really related. If English isn't your native language, I would recommend finding a better source of interpretation. As it is, I don't think anyone here is going to be able to help you in a way you find satisfactory.
DarkLordLegion wrote: »It is kind of sad that no one could even answer a simple question when it comes to weapons. Yet, when it comes to the armor suggestion, it seems that the further questioning about them was by-pass if people didn't want to answer the questions. Every comment or reply that I have made, was still directing back to the multiple weapons.