NB huh? Probably yet another that tries to just spam cloak so they got jabs/sweep spam in return. Have a video of one doing exactly that and acting like they had no clue WTF to do when I popped a detect pot and jabbed away.
L2P without cloak, then profit while using it as icing rather than the cake.
mustangmorgan31 wrote: »mustangmorgan31 wrote: »
NB crybabies! L2P issue.
Not a templar main im not not S. hit
NB sees more jabs because jabs pulls you out of stealth so you get it spammed on you, stop hitting the coward button! If you cant then build for more survivability as oppose to glass cannon!
I wonder if you people have this attitude in real life. If so, i feel sorry for you. If not, you must be enjoying that internet anonymity huh.
BAD ATTITUDE? You are the person whom thinks he is entitled that a class should be nerfed because it has a counter to your cloak spam. Why should a class be nerfed because you play a medium armor glass cannon and then get on a forums and cry about jabs? What makes YOU so special that a class should be nerfed (more than what it has already) just so you can continue to cloak around and burst from stealth? YOU choose to play a squishy NB. So you think you shouldn't have a class that can counteract your stealth? So you think you should be so OP that no class can counteract you? You have one of the best fears in the game. Fear the templar, roll dodge, and cloak away. Pick and choose your targets. I have a DC NB and I try to avoid templars because I know they have a good shot at killing me.
brandonv516 wrote: »NB huh? Probably yet another that tries to just spam cloak so they got jabs/sweep spam in return. Have a video of one doing exactly that and acting like they had no clue WTF to do when I popped a detect pot and jabbed away.
L2P without cloak, then profit while using it as icing rather than the cake.
Real creative idea there! Slot Cloak but don't use it until the moment is just right...
Idiot.
NB huh? Probably yet another that tries to just spam cloak so they got jabs/sweep spam in return. Have a video of one doing exactly that and acting like they had no clue WTF to do when I popped a detect pot and jabbed away.
L2P without cloak, then profit while using it as icing rather than the cake.
Y'know as a StamBlade I can only use cloak a good three times in a row. If you're absolutely perfect with the duration timing you can do four, but that never happens in a PvP fight, and Magic recovery is crap so cloak is not reliable. You use it to get into position for the initial gank and thats it. If the gank fails you're stuck in just like everyone else, and since most PvPers have stacked resistances these days, most ganks fail.mustangmorgan31 wrote: »mustangmorgan31 wrote: »
NB crybabies! L2P issue.
Not a templar main im not not S. hit
NB sees more jabs because jabs pulls you out of stealth so you get it spammed on you, stop hitting the coward button! If you cant then build for more survivability as oppose to glass cannon!
I wonder if you people have this attitude in real life. If so, i feel sorry for you. If not, you must be enjoying that internet anonymity huh.
BAD ATTITUDE? You are the person whom thinks he is entitled that a class should be nerfed because it has a counter to your cloak spam. Why should a class be nerfed because you play a medium armor glass cannon and then get on a forums and cry about jabs? What makes YOU so special that a class should be nerfed (more than what it has already) just so you can continue to cloak around and burst from stealth? YOU choose to play a squishy NB. So you think you shouldn't have a class that can counteract your stealth? So you think you should be so OP that no class can counteract you? You have one of the best fears in the game. Fear the templar, roll dodge, and cloak away. Pick and choose your targets. I have a DC NB and I try to avoid templars because I know they have a good shot at killing me.
Dude. Templars right now, counter EVERYTHING. It's not just me, I've watched Templars mow down everyone with the snare and AoE dmg from sweeps. How is bringing attention to something being abused equal me being entitled? But yes, I am crying, I'm bawling my damn eyes out, mean old Templars hurt me and my only recourse is to run away from them. I guess when an entire DC group of Templars comes sieging BRK I should just leave the Keep and let them have it too, since you claim the appropriate course of action for a NB is to avoid.
But yah dude, I call that a bad attitude. I mean seriously, you give me crap for making the thread in the first place, I call you out on it and your reaction is literal lashing out.
NB huh? Probably yet another that tries to just spam cloak so they got jabs/sweep spam in return. Have a video of one doing exactly that and acting like they had no clue WTF to do when I popped a detect pot and jabbed away.
L2P without cloak, then profit while using it as icing rather than the cake.
Y'know as a StamBlade I can only use cloak a good three times in a row. If you're absolutely perfect with the duration timing you can do four, but that never happens in a PvP fight, and Magic recovery is crap so cloak is not reliable. You use it to get into position for the initial gank and thats it. If the gank fails you're stuck in just like everyone else, and since most PvPers have stacked resistances these days, most ganks fail.mustangmorgan31 wrote: »mustangmorgan31 wrote: »
NB crybabies! L2P issue.
Not a templar main im not not S. hit
NB sees more jabs because jabs pulls you out of stealth so you get it spammed on you, stop hitting the coward button! If you cant then build for more survivability as oppose to glass cannon!
I wonder if you people have this attitude in real life. If so, i feel sorry for you. If not, you must be enjoying that internet anonymity huh.
BAD ATTITUDE? You are the person whom thinks he is entitled that a class should be nerfed because it has a counter to your cloak spam. Why should a class be nerfed because you play a medium armor glass cannon and then get on a forums and cry about jabs? What makes YOU so special that a class should be nerfed (more than what it has already) just so you can continue to cloak around and burst from stealth? YOU choose to play a squishy NB. So you think you shouldn't have a class that can counteract your stealth? So you think you should be so OP that no class can counteract you? You have one of the best fears in the game. Fear the templar, roll dodge, and cloak away. Pick and choose your targets. I have a DC NB and I try to avoid templars because I know they have a good shot at killing me.
Dude. Templars right now, counter EVERYTHING. It's not just me, I've watched Templars mow down everyone with the snare and AoE dmg from sweeps. How is bringing attention to something being abused equal me being entitled? But yes, I am crying, I'm bawling my damn eyes out, mean old Templars hurt me and my only recourse is to run away from them. I guess when an entire DC group of Templars comes sieging BRK I should just leave the Keep and let them have it too, since you claim the appropriate course of action for a NB is to avoid.
But yah dude, I call that a bad attitude. I mean seriously, you give me crap for making the thread in the first place, I call you out on it and your reaction is literal lashing out.
I see plenty of NBs who have speed and can use shadow image, cloak, and temporal gaurd to geeat effect. If they dont kill you, they get away 1 way or another. If you cant, you should probably seek them out before crying nerf. If you are using it 3 times in a row, you probably are already doing it wrong. Get some distance first at least.
UppGRAYxDD wrote: »
NB huh? Probably yet another that tries to just spam cloak so they got jabs/sweep spam in return. Have a video of one doing exactly that and acting like they had no clue WTF to do when I popped a detect pot and jabbed away.
L2P without cloak, then profit while using it as icing rather than the cake.
Y'know as a StamBlade I can only use cloak a good three times in a row. If you're absolutely perfect with the duration timing you can do four, but that never happens in a PvP fight, and Magic recovery is crap so cloak is not reliable. You use it to get into position for the initial gank and thats it. If the gank fails you're stuck in just like everyone else, and since most PvPers have stacked resistances these days, most ganks fail.mustangmorgan31 wrote: »mustangmorgan31 wrote: »
NB crybabies! L2P issue.
Not a templar main im not not S. hit
NB sees more jabs because jabs pulls you out of stealth so you get it spammed on you, stop hitting the coward button! If you cant then build for more survivability as oppose to glass cannon!
I wonder if you people have this attitude in real life. If so, i feel sorry for you. If not, you must be enjoying that internet anonymity huh.
BAD ATTITUDE? You are the person whom thinks he is entitled that a class should be nerfed because it has a counter to your cloak spam. Why should a class be nerfed because you play a medium armor glass cannon and then get on a forums and cry about jabs? What makes YOU so special that a class should be nerfed (more than what it has already) just so you can continue to cloak around and burst from stealth? YOU choose to play a squishy NB. So you think you shouldn't have a class that can counteract your stealth? So you think you should be so OP that no class can counteract you? You have one of the best fears in the game. Fear the templar, roll dodge, and cloak away. Pick and choose your targets. I have a DC NB and I try to avoid templars because I know they have a good shot at killing me.
Dude. Templars right now, counter EVERYTHING. It's not just me, I've watched Templars mow down everyone with the snare and AoE dmg from sweeps. How is bringing attention to something being abused equal me being entitled? But yes, I am crying, I'm bawling my damn eyes out, mean old Templars hurt me and my only recourse is to run away from them. I guess when an entire DC group of Templars comes sieging BRK I should just leave the Keep and let them have it too, since you claim the appropriate course of action for a NB is to avoid.
But yah dude, I call that a bad attitude. I mean seriously, you give me crap for making the thread in the first place, I call you out on it and your reaction is literal lashing out.
I am a magblade main, pretty much since oright before orsinium released. I dont feel that templar is overpowered except for maybe that dark bubble crap they use. The snares they use feel like they were designed specifically to counter nightblades and im okay with that. Jabs? We have a class snare removal and major evasion packed in with it. Pop it, roll dodge or use shades. If you can get away from the initial assault its usually pretty simple to get away and turn the fight on its head. Other classes have plenty of defensive tools available. I think the big issue with templars is not that they are over powered, but that they are finally sitting in a good place as far as overall tool kit and skill balance while the other classes are yet unfinished making them feel weak by comparison. I know us nightblades have a pretty strong tool kit but there are hard choices baked into that toolkit that i feel like need to be tweaked for usability. Such as having better stam options and certain passive skill abilities being swapped around. Movement speed in stealth is nice but shouldnt be baked in to a melee spammable on a mag settup for example. Anyway, my point is its not templars that need nerfing, or other classes that need buffing per say, but that other classes need tweaking and reorganizing of abilities they already have to make them work together more smoothly.
I am a magblade main, pretty much since oright before orsinium released. I dont feel that templar is overpowered except for maybe that dark bubble crap they use. The snares they use feel like they were designed specifically to counter nightblades and im okay with that. Jabs? We have a class snare removal and major evasion packed in with it. Pop it, roll dodge or use shades. If you can get away from the initial assault its usually pretty simple to get away and turn the fight on its head. Other classes have plenty of defensive tools available. I think the big issue with templars is not that they are over powered, but that they are finally sitting in a good place as far as overall tool kit and skill balance while the other classes are yet unfinished making them feel weak by comparison. I know us nightblades have a pretty strong tool kit but there are hard choices baked into that toolkit that i feel like need to be tweaked for usability. Such as having better stam options and certain passive skill abilities being swapped around. Movement speed in stealth is nice but shouldnt be baked in to a melee spammable on a mag settup for example. Anyway, my point is its not templars that need nerfing, or other classes that need buffing per say, but that other classes need tweaking and reorganizing of abilities they already have to make them work together more smoothly.
Joy_Division wrote: »So I take a break from ESO. Decide to check it out again because my old guild is talking about coming back to play. Come onto the forums and immediately and reminded why I took the break in the first place.
Two threads whining about how two classes are supposedly overpowered and need a nerf.
This game isn't fun to play any more now because everything is some boring percentage modifier or has been given noob-proof mechanics like cast-times. And people are still whining that stuff is overpowered. The common element here isn't the devs - the combat team is completely different - it's that some players are far overestimating their ability to play this game and cannot accept they die and lose because the reality that other players are flat out better than they are.
NB huh? Probably yet another that tries to just spam cloak so they got jabs/sweep spam in return. Have a video of one doing exactly that and acting like they had no clue WTF to do when I popped a detect pot and jabbed away.
L2P without cloak, then profit while using it as icing rather than the cake.
Y'know as a StamBlade I can only use cloak a good three times in a row. If you're absolutely perfect with the duration timing you can do four, but that never happens in a PvP fight, and Magic recovery is crap so cloak is not reliable. You use it to get into position for the initial gank and thats it. If the gank fails you're stuck in just like everyone else, and since most PvPers have stacked resistances these days, most ganks fail.mustangmorgan31 wrote: »mustangmorgan31 wrote: »
NB crybabies! L2P issue.
Not a templar main im not not S. hit
NB sees more jabs because jabs pulls you out of stealth so you get it spammed on you, stop hitting the coward button! If you cant then build for more survivability as oppose to glass cannon!
I wonder if you people have this attitude in real life. If so, i feel sorry for you. If not, you must be enjoying that internet anonymity huh.
BAD ATTITUDE? You are the person whom thinks he is entitled that a class should be nerfed because it has a counter to your cloak spam. Why should a class be nerfed because you play a medium armor glass cannon and then get on a forums and cry about jabs? What makes YOU so special that a class should be nerfed (more than what it has already) just so you can continue to cloak around and burst from stealth? YOU choose to play a squishy NB. So you think you shouldn't have a class that can counteract your stealth? So you think you should be so OP that no class can counteract you? You have one of the best fears in the game. Fear the templar, roll dodge, and cloak away. Pick and choose your targets. I have a DC NB and I try to avoid templars because I know they have a good shot at killing me.
Dude. Templars right now, counter EVERYTHING. It's not just me, I've watched Templars mow down everyone with the snare and AoE dmg from sweeps. How is bringing attention to something being abused equal me being entitled? But yes, I am crying, I'm bawling my damn eyes out, mean old Templars hurt me and my only recourse is to run away from them. I guess when an entire DC group of Templars comes sieging BRK I should just leave the Keep and let them have it too, since you claim the appropriate course of action for a NB is to avoid.
But yah dude, I call that a bad attitude. I mean seriously, you give me crap for making the thread in the first place, I call you out on it and your reaction is literal lashing out.
Edvard_black wrote: »" I guess when an entire DC group of Templars comes sieging BRK I should just leave the Keep and let them have it too, since you claim the appropriate course of action for a NB is to avoid." Hmm, if a group is besieging the castle, then you need to do it, since AD always arrives, if it's prime-time, then leave Cyrodiil and go in early in the morning or at night, when nobody is there))))))
Every single class in this game has some kind of rotation. It’s not just toppling, crescent, sweep to win. On my magplar I have to buff up, gap close, lay some dots, purifying light, sweeps, heal/buff, repeat. Animation canceling and bar swap canceling may make it seem like we do less but it’s not true. Most people that I kill easily is because they don’t buff, heal, or react in time...which kind of makes it a L2P issue. Templar’s are, contrary to popular opinion, able to be killed. The only people I usually can’t kill or can’t kill me are other Templar’s.
Every single class in this game has some kind of rotation. It’s not just toppling, crescent, sweep to win. On my magplar I have to buff up, gap close, lay some dots, purifying light, sweeps, heal/buff, repeat. Animation canceling and bar swap canceling may make it seem like we do less but it’s not true. Most people that I kill easily is because they don’t buff, heal, or react in time...which kind of makes it a L2P issue. Templar’s are, contrary to popular opinion, able to be killed. The only people I usually can’t kill or can’t kill me are other Templar’s.
If you start explaining to guys who play 3 button builds and spend their time saying Templar is the easiest and most simple class to play then you'll be doing it forever because those are the kind of people that cannot take criticism; hence why they often play the 3 button meta at the time.
These dudes aint played Templar and if they have, it's clearly not at a good level. I'd love to see any of these guys kill a decent player on any class, doing the 3 things they think we do.
As I said before, the OP is Xbox EU and it's riddled with Stam Dks and Stam Wardens, not Templars (excluding absolute zerglings that are a total non issue as always for anyone decent) - This is a post probably bred from the fact that he's getting binned by Templars and Templars alone whilst having that expectation mentality of winning every fight.
Edvard_black wrote: »" I guess when an entire DC group of Templars comes sieging BRK I should just leave the Keep and let them have it too, since you claim the appropriate course of action for a NB is to avoid." Hmm, if a group is besieging the castle, then you need to do it, since AD always arrives, if it's prime-time, then leave Cyrodiil and go in early in the morning or at night, when nobody is there))))))
You know, since this is a Massive Multiplayer Online Game, you might consider finding your own group to fight back with.
Or you can whine and cry about not being able to take out a group of players by yourself.
It’s nice to have options.