ForzaRammer wrote: »My guess is there is a reason they have to use GF. Unfortunately, the place lost a lot of quality after the game went B2P.
Dungeon finder has no quality because trash tier damage dealer are babied instead of kicked.
Now they are so entitled they demand tank to carry them.
You give them a hand they take the whole arm.
If part of the community want to baby them more, why not just split up the ques.
I have been kicked from vMHK as tank for dying to crushing magic several times.
Note: Crushing magic is a boss skill, he traps you in a bubble and dps have 10 seconds to break it or the person inside dies.
ForzaRammer wrote: »
These ppl doing 4 digit dps and want tank to attack and do damage, when i tell them i am a tank it is not my job they just kick.
Srsly zos, this dungeon finder is so anti tank. Can we please have a 2 tier que so i get to play with half decent players only?
Spare me some pain, so i don't need to deal with these ppl. I don't see toxic elitist, all i see is entiled potato abuse the system.
I feel like for a thread started by a tank who by own admission was too lazy to stop watching TV and give minimal effort whining about DDs also putting in minimal effort, this conversation has continued for far too long.
Bobby_V_Rockit wrote: »So whats your cutoff points for each role to be considered potato?
I’ve been kicked right as we begin fighting the last boss for who knows what reason.
ForzaRammer wrote: »I feel like for a thread started by a tank who by own admission was too lazy to stop watching TV and give minimal effort whining about DDs also putting in minimal effort, this conversation has continued for far too long.
There is nothing wrong with tank giving minimum effort. There is everything wrong with sub 10k potato dps demand tank to do dmg.
Tount once 15 seconds ?
If the dungeon was vet you should be skilled enough to Ransack Light attack Bash every 1.something seconds + some Dots and buffs. If i see "Tank" in Vet dungeon doing nothing but tounting once 15 sec and just holding block like a mudcrab i would of consider kicking him too.
What class tank are you?
Where is your Major Fracture coming from Caltrops I guess? And Ele drain <If healer isn't casting?> Unless your a necro I guess and hope someone synergizes which in pugs isn't 100%. I have no idea why you would use Ransack in a Vet 4 man. The extra tankyness is hugely not needed.
MartiniDaniels wrote: »ForzaRammer wrote: »
Queue for dlc vets only.
"Civilized men are more discourteous than savages because they know they can be impolite without having their skulls split, as a general thing.”
― Robert E. Howard
Rain_Greyraven wrote: »It's a sad day when SWTOR has a less toxic community than ESO....
Rain_Greyraven wrote: »It's a sad day when SWTOR has a less toxic community than ESO....
I don't know, some days are worse than others. Earlier this week I was chatting with a random in zone about grinding out a new toon (I'm doing a stamcro) and they send me 4 psijic ambrosia to help me out. I didn't ask for them and he/she didn't request anything in return. Just did it to be cool. I've done this for others, as well.
So, yeah, there are lots of d!ckbags in the game but I feel like there are way more decent people who play and just go about their business. Somewhat like real life.
"Civilized men are more discourteous than savages because they know they can be impolite without having their skulls split, as a general thing.”
― Robert E. Howard
Rain_Greyraven wrote: »Rain_Greyraven wrote: »It's a sad day when SWTOR has a less toxic community than ESO....
I don't know, some days are worse than others. Earlier this week I was chatting with a random in zone about grinding out a new toon (I'm doing a stamcro) and they send me 4 psijic ambrosia to help me out. I didn't ask for them and he/she didn't request anything in return. Just did it to be cool. I've done this for others, as well.
So, yeah, there are lots of d!ckbags in the game but I feel like there are way more decent people who play and just go about their business. Somewhat like real life.
I shall now replace Douchenozzle with D!ckbag it is clearly the superior burn.
RogueShark wrote: »ForzaRammer wrote: »I feel like for a thread started by a tank who by own admission was too lazy to stop watching TV and give minimal effort whining about DDs also putting in minimal effort, this conversation has continued for far too long.
There is nothing wrong with tank giving minimum effort. There is everything wrong with sub 10k potato dps demand tank to do dmg.
These are both wrong.
It's wrong of DPS to expect the tank to carry them damage-wise.
It's also wrong of someone putting in bare-minimum effort to expect everyone else in their group to put in more than bare-minimum effort too.
ForzaRammer wrote: »I feel like for a thread started by a tank who by own admission was too lazy to stop watching TV and give minimal effort whining about DDs also putting in minimal effort, this conversation has continued for far too long.
There is nothing wrong with tank giving minimum effort. There is everything wrong with sub 10k potato dps demand tank to do dmg.
LaveniaRose wrote: »ForzaRammer wrote: »I feel like for a thread started by a tank who by own admission was too lazy to stop watching TV and give minimal effort whining about DDs also putting in minimal effort, this conversation has continued for far too long.
There is nothing wrong with tank giving minimum effort. There is everything wrong with sub 10k potato dps demand tank to do dmg.
The tank was hitting a taunt only from his comments. I think any reasonable dps is allowed to want him to consider at least hitting low slash and maybe another DOT. This tank was obnoxious and the dps weren't good at the game. I'd hardly call the dps "toxic potatoes" after reading the whole thread. But I might use that term for the tank.
MartiniDaniels wrote: »ForzaRammer wrote: »MartiniDaniels wrote: »ForzaRammer wrote: »
Queue for dlc vets only.
Very wrong, only about 70% of players que dlc vets are half decent or better. Every other run i get at least 1 potato.
Yeah, 70% looks similar to what I see. But is it bad? Sometimes one of the dps can carry for 2 and if not, lesser one is kicked or moved by himself.
ZOS_RogerJ wrote: »Just a friendly reminder, as we've edited some posts, to keep the thread on topic and constructive.
NordSwordnBoard wrote: »RogueShark wrote: »ForzaRammer wrote: »I feel like for a thread started by a tank who by own admission was too lazy to stop watching TV and give minimal effort whining about DDs also putting in minimal effort, this conversation has continued for far too long.
There is nothing wrong with tank giving minimum effort. There is everything wrong with sub 10k potato dps demand tank to do dmg.
These are both wrong.
It's wrong of DPS to expect the tank to carry them damage-wise.
It's also wrong of someone putting in bare-minimum effort to expect everyone else in their group to put in more than bare-minimum effort too.
This
The goal is to finish the content, unless that's impossible due to already discussed factors of incompetence or toxicity. The equivalent of tank only poking the boss and nothing else for DPS would probably be like one aoe skill and light attack spamming. All of you can beat just about any normal dungeon this way. Why encourage that behavior though? Are you applying a different standard to yourself than you do to the group?
They shouldn't have asked you for more DPS - they should've asked you to perform your role to the same degree you expected of them. Spamming LA in between punctures might've solved this problem, but that's more than you could provide so they kicked you. OP Please don't tell us you can't solo a normal dungeon - So, what's the difference if you "solo" it with 3 other people? Put on a "clinic" as they say in the NBA...
I’ve been “kicked” for being a dps who runs ahead and kills everything in a normal dungeon.
I’ve been kicked for a being a dps who wasn’t dps enough.
I’ve been kicked because I didn’t say hello when the group first formed.
I’ve been kicked right as we begin fighting the last boss for who knows what reason.
I cried every time.
You should be kicked for running ahead. The other players didn't join to be your cheerleaders they joined to participate.
ForzaRammer wrote: »LaveniaRose wrote: »ForzaRammer wrote: »I feel like for a thread started by a tank who by own admission was too lazy to stop watching TV and give minimal effort whining about DDs also putting in minimal effort, this conversation has continued for far too long.
There is nothing wrong with tank giving minimum effort. There is everything wrong with sub 10k potato dps demand tank to do dmg.
The tank was hitting a taunt only from his comments. I think any reasonable dps is allowed to want him to consider at least hitting low slash and maybe another DOT. This tank was obnoxious and the dps weren't good at the game. I'd hardly call the dps "toxic potatoes" after reading the whole thread. But I might use that term for the tank.
Lol, I tanked vcr hm vss hm, so pretty sure i am not a potato, and i did those with < 3k dps.
MartiniDaniels wrote: »ForzaRammer wrote: »MartiniDaniels wrote: »ForzaRammer wrote: »
Queue for dlc vets only.
Very wrong, only about 70% of players que dlc vets are half decent or better. Every other run i get at least 1 potato.
Yeah, 70% looks similar to what I see. But is it bad? Sometimes one of the dps can carry for 2 and if not, lesser one is kicked or moved by himself.ZOS_RogerJ wrote: »Just a friendly reminder, as we've edited some posts, to keep the thread on topic and constructive.
Shame you also don't remove the elitist messages from the people that contribute to the most toxic MMO experience in existence
Goregrinder wrote: »I’ve been “kicked” for being a dps who runs ahead and kills everything in a normal dungeon.
I’ve been kicked for a being a dps who wasn’t dps enough.
I’ve been kicked because I didn’t say hello when the group first formed.
I’ve been kicked right as we begin fighting the last boss for who knows what reason.
I cried every time.
You should be kicked for running ahead. The other players didn't join to be your cheerleaders they joined to participate.
Then they should start pulling their weight and actually participate, otherwise if they don't do the deeps, then they should stand back and let a professional do it.
ForzaRammer wrote: »LaveniaRose wrote: »ForzaRammer wrote: »I feel like for a thread started by a tank who by own admission was too lazy to stop watching TV and give minimal effort whining about DDs also putting in minimal effort, this conversation has continued for far too long.
There is nothing wrong with tank giving minimum effort. There is everything wrong with sub 10k potato dps demand tank to do dmg.
The tank was hitting a taunt only from his comments. I think any reasonable dps is allowed to want him to consider at least hitting low slash and maybe another DOT. This tank was obnoxious and the dps weren't good at the game. I'd hardly call the dps "toxic potatoes" after reading the whole thread. But I might use that term for the tank.
Lol, I tanked vcr hm vss hm, so pretty sure i am not a potato, and i did those with < 3k dps.
So what you're saying is that because you've done some of the harder content in game, you're now entitled to do the bare minimum in other dungeon content yet expect more from the rest of your group?
ForzaRammer wrote: »Goregrinder wrote: »I’ve been “kicked” for being a dps who runs ahead and kills everything in a normal dungeon.
I’ve been kicked for a being a dps who wasn’t dps enough.
I’ve been kicked because I didn’t say hello when the group first formed.
I’ve been kicked right as we begin fighting the last boss for who knows what reason.
I cried every time.
You should be kicked for running ahead. The other players didn't join to be your cheerleaders they joined to participate.
Then they should start pulling their weight and actually participate, otherwise if they don't do the deeps, then they should stand back and let a professional do it.
Love that attitude, always enjoy free ride on my tank, nice and fast.