I am not much into enclosed space. Never bought Alinor Townhouse, which is of similar type. I kind of can't be bothered with Landing. There's nothing characteristc to it, nothing what stands out. Seen it on PTS some weeks ago, but my bottom is not amused. The best Elsweyr themed house is the Meadow, imho.

Zypheran wrote: »

I'm just disappointed that ZOS ignored all the feedback on making this a 600 item house

I am saying this from a logic and objective view, not being negative.
About your furnished PTS example of Lucky Cat.
Building a fully furnished small house from scratch next to Lucky Cat and advocating for an higher item limit seemed counter productive to me.

@Nebthet78, You are missing my point.
Wich is how many items were used building that extra furnished house.
Wich instead could have been used for more decorating the house (inside and outside).

As for discussed preferred changes to Lucky Cat, i rather have they really fix those ugly wall textures.

Tigerseye wrote: »

dagrdagaz_5912 wrote: »

@Nebthet78, You are missing my point.
Wich is how many items were used building that extra furnished house.
Wich instead could have been used for more decorating the house (inside and outside).

As for discussed preferred changes to Lucky Cat, i rather have they really fix those ugly wall textures.

The interior of the house has a really weird, disjointed layout and the rooms are too small and are too few in number to constitute a decently sized house.

So, a living space extension had to be built to make it feel, at least somewhat, like a proper house.

I, seriously, don't understand how they have gone from the Alinor Townhouse, which is a near-perfect home, which could only really have been made better with a basement, windows on the ground floor and a 700 limit, to this?

Especially when they have made Elsweyr inns and so on that are far more like proper houses.

This is what I thought as well while I was looking at it. An extremely odd layout that eats up what could have been actual workable housing space in the upstairs area where you go to the back room. They could have made it a third smaller room. I know a few people, including myself who would have been eager to make that into an actual washroom or something else giving the area an actual ensuite feeling while still incorporating the layout. But all that room is eaten up by bad design.

While I was on the PTS I actually found the perfect Medium house for my style in Senchel. It's Auberic Dufont's Residence. You don't have to break into it.. This is what I would have preferred to receive as a medium/large home and then either take out the basement and give a nice sized yard. Keep both or slightly smaller yard but keep basement. Either way, there is a lot that could be done here with a 700 slot limit.

I won't buy Lucky Cat because clorox hasn't been invented yet.

Tigerseye wrote: »

bayushi2005 wrote: »

I am not much into enclosed space. Never bought Alinor Townhouse, which is of similar type. I kind of can't be bothered with Landing. There's nothing characteristc to it, nothing what stands out. Seen it on PTS some weeks ago, but my bottom is not amused. The best Elsweyr themed house is the Meadow, imho.

The Meadow is gorgeous, but I think, if you're not really into enclosed spaces, a house like this was never going to be for you (however well it might have been executed), was it?

It's like me commenting on barren, Coldharbour-type, open spaces - they're just not for me.

Yes and no. Even if I am not much into it, there are some enclosed spaces I enjoy (Linchal interior, Lakemire Xanmeer, Tel Galen) as they have some distinct qualities which I can later employ for my build. I don't see anything "wow" in Alinor Townhouse or Lucky Cat.

Actually "flat slabs" make a minority of my builds so no, it is not the same...

Nebthet78 wrote: »

dagrdagaz_5912 wrote: »

Zypheran wrote: »

I'm just disappointed that ZOS ignored all the feedback on making this a 600 item house

I am saying this from a logic and objective view, not being negative.
About your furnished PTS example of Lucky Cat.
Building a fully furnished small house from scratch next to Lucky Cat and advocating for an higher item limit seemed counter productive to me.

I didn't see people asking for a second smaller house next to Lucky cat, they were trying to explain to ZOS they hasn't met the mark that players are wanting in Medium sized homes with a Large home's item limit so we can properly furnish it.

Lucky cat is slightly larger than a medium home and the outside is a fairly moderate space, and yet it has the item limit of a small home. A good number of players tested being able to decorate it and they weren't able to do it properly on the current item limit and asked for that limit to be increased to 600, which would have been far more appropriate, which is something they did with that snow globe home.

My spouse measured Lucky Cat and Velothi Reverie and found that Lucky Cat is only slightly larger than Velothi Reverie. It was also substantially smaller than Alinor Crest, so it does fit into the medium category in terms of size. It does not, however, have a small home item limit (which is 100/200), but rather a medium home item limit (200/400).

There's a problem with ZOS' house categories, in that there can be a wide variety of sizes within each category. Those on the small end are easily decorated within the limit, but as you get to the upper end, it becomes increasingly difficult. Lucky Cat is really pushing the limit on the medium house size. (It's possible Mournoth might be larger, but it's exterior is a lot harder to measure.) ZOS has taken house size into account when pricing homes, so that houses at the small end are cheaper (both gold and crown), while those on the upper end are more expensive. But, they all get the same item limit.

I agree that this home should have been given 600 slots - make it an outlier like the Snow Globe home, which, while potentially larger than Lucky Cat, seems to be quite small for a large home. It was priced accordingly at 4200 crowns unfurnished, which reflected it's size, but got 600 slots to work with. I do think they could/should have done the same with Lucky Cat (and Frostvault for that matter). CS-only homes could be exempt from the usual category item limits and just get 600 slots automatically, or maybe a new item limit of 250/500, which someone else suggested in the PTS feedback thread.

Sporvan wrote: »

Whelp, seems like Lucky Cat furnished is the only place you can buy "Parcels, Wrapped" right now...

Aren't those the same as the ones that come with Alinor Crest furnished? I thought they looked the same when I was previewing on PTS, but I might be mistaken.

Does it still have 400 slots?
I'm contemplating buying it, I love khajiiti architecture and even its decrepit look could work for one of my ideas. But with 400 slots, I'm not sure if I can decorate it.

LadyNalcarya wrote: »

Does it still have 400 slots?
I'm contemplating buying it, I love khajiiti architecture and even its decrepit look could work for one of my ideas. But with 400 slots, I'm not sure if I can decorate it.

It does still have just 400 slots. I'm still going to buy it when it comes out on console even so, as I've worked within that limit on some other rather large medium homes. Definitely doable, but sacrifices will have to be made. I'm also not a builder, so I don't use up any slots that way, but for builders, esp. with the great outdoor space, 400 slots is pretty small.

Erin summarized pretty well the pros/cons of this home. But I'll add one of my own - price. While it's still a crown price, it better fits my budget and I hope a lot of other players, too. Much more so than any of the notables. I really hope that we see more medium, and even small homes or large homes, in the future and not just the giant monstrosities.

ETA: I'd also like to see some of the new homes available for gold.

Size does not realy matter when you can't place more as the usual amount of items.