Veteran content Loot / Skin / Achievement Sales problem

deleted008293 · October 2019

That is understandable yet... to this date I didn;t manged to pull out a group to do some vet dlc dungeons, farming or whatever reasons with most of ppl i used to play on a daily basis.

anitajoneb17_ESO · October 2019

nordmarian wrote: »

That is understandable yet... to this date I didn;t manged to pull out a group to do some vet dlc dungeons, farming or whatever reasons with most of ppl i used to play on a daily basis.

That's because they don't like running with you. That's all there is to it.

Now I have a couple of questions, if you don't mind :

- Have you listened to the people in this (and other) threads who tried to tell you this in a more diplomatic way ?
- Have you listened to the people in this (and other) threads who have said that they would not like to be a friend or guildie of yours because of all the complaints flooding that you're doing here and makes you undoubtedly appear as a troublemaker ?
- Have you listened to the people who told you how obnoxious your comment about "girls" was ? Have you reflected on that ?
- Have you listened to all the good advice that people in this (and other) threads have kindly given you, including, but not limited to : changing your attitude, apologizing, seeking professional help, changing your ingame ID and making new friends ? Have you tried any of this ? Do you intend to try any of this ?
- Do you understand that the fact that your former "friends" aren't running with you anymore is not directly related to selling runs for gold ?
- Do you understand that if people have been nice and run with you in the past, it doesn't force them to go on doing so forever ? Do you understand that people don't have to justify themselves for not wanting to run with you ? And that they are free to run with whomever they want ? And to not run with whomever they don't want to run ?
- What exactly are you looking for here ?
- Do you realize that you are aggravating your situation (and ultimately hurting yourself) ?

Again sorry to be sort of direct here.

Cirantille · October 2019

I am too lazy for grinding

And not that dedicated to this game

So I dont really care about those rewards

Not motivating enough

deleted008293 · October 2019

I don't want to sound harsh but actually the main reason some of my friends are refusing to run with me is exactly the situation described above. Guys I used to help in the past or used to raid together are no longer helping back, stating different excuses like the above.
- Why running a 3h long DLC dungeons when I can earn a bit fair amount of gold somewhere else?
- Why even playing with you when I can just go and sell skins and be on my way?
- Or randoms, leaving after a wipe or mid raid for gold.

This post is not about L2P nor about reputation. It is strictly about the Paid carry runs less desirable problems. People whom are doing this, or were part of some situations described above, such as buying skins to impress you and ultimately your friends into joining them are the ones tried their best to denigrate me on open forums.

Edit: Also one really good example is that once I was trying to form a group to sell an achievement run in a dungeon and those few friends I knew practicing this business or were experienced enough with refused to help out stating clearly that they can earn easy money somewhere else. it is one really sad reason why money talks and hearts cries.

anitajoneb17_ESO · October 2019

nordmarian wrote: »

Guys I used to help in the past or used to raid together are no longer helping back, stating different excuses like the above.

And I believe, from all you've posted in this (and other) threads, that you're being delusional.
Your "friends" are being polite (and/or hypocrits too). The true reason they don't run with you is that they don't want to, and that has all to do with you. You should not call them your friends, they are not your friends, they don't want to be your friends and they don't want to be called your friends.
If you don't understand that, you're beyond help.

nordmarian wrote: »

Also one really good example is that once I was trying to form a group to sell an achievement run in a dungeon and those few friends I knew practicing this business or were experienced enough with refused to help out stating clearly that they can earn easy money somewhere else. it is one really sad reason why money talks and hearts cries.

And that illustrates pretty well why, in my opinion, most people with normal social skills would not want you as a "friend". Look at what you've written : it makes zero sense. You arrange runs for gold and ask people to participate out of what you call "friendship" and when they say they're better off somewhere else you blame runs for gold organized by other people and describe your "friends" as greedy.

So which is it ? Friendship ? Help ? Gold ? What is your motivation and what should your "friends"' motivation be ?

You make no sense. You play the victim with obvious delight. You blame everyone else and everything else but yourself. You don't listen to anyone and you don't answer questions. Who would like to have you as a friend ?

Oh my, I sound horrible. But that's what this sort of behaviour inspires me. Even wondering if it's not pure trolling at this stage.

pod88kk · October 2019

I'm against the selling of skins as it completely belittles the amount of work that teams put in for weeks/months to EARN them.

SpacemanSpiff1 · October 2019

This thread is mentally hilarious.

Kalik_Gold · October 2019

Hiring mercenaries to take you thru content isn't an issue I look down upon. It is what it is.

I haven't done it, but I spend Gold on crown items. If someone else wants to pay a few people for their time, why should I judge.