You didn't get half a chapter, you got a full chapter. Elswyer is roughly the same size as the previous chapters, same amount of new land to explore, same amount of new quest content, and a new class.

I can't wait to see these forums explode after ZOS release a region of Skyrim and title it "Skyrim".

It is a bit confusing, because the zone is called Elsweyr on the map, but then everything in the game that's related to the zone refers to it as Northern Elsweyr.

But it's a lot like another well-known location that was added to ESO in a chapter, namely ESO:Morrowind. It isn't the whole of Morrowind, just Vvardenfell. Other parts of Morrowind were already in the game as zones of their own, so it seems like the chapter should have been called Vvardenfell, right? But Morrowind is a more appealing name, because it harkens back to TES3:Morrowind, which was also located (mostly) on Vvardenfell rather than spanning all of Morrowind proper.

How dare you OP! The nerve you have for complaining about an increasingly greedy company known for purposefully shaving off more and more content each year, and shoving more and more potentially earnable content into the crown store, yet still maintaining the same egregious prices! For shame!...

Conduit0 wrote: »

You didn't get half a chapter, you got a full chapter. Elswyer is roughly the same size as the previous chapters, same amount of new land to explore, same amount of new quest content, and a new class.

I agree with this, Elsweyr was fine as a Chapter. It’s Dragonhold that seems lacking compared to Clockwork City or Murkmire. Just overland content, no new trials/dungeons/arenas, no new game systems, no ability-altering weapons, no guilds or skills. Just significant DPS nerfs so we can repeat older content and it will seem like a new challenge

The name of the Chapter isn't necessarily meant as a description of the content.


"Morrowind" was a Chapter, and didn't include all of Morrowind (a large chunk of it is still not present in-game); it wasn't called "Vvardenfel", even though THAT was the land mass the content took place on.

A large chunk of the continent of Elsweyr is already present in the base game (Reaper's March says hello), so according to your logic, it would need to be called "Northwestern Elsweyr" which is just ridiculous.

SilentRaven1972 wrote: »

I'm hearing that those that bought Elswyer will also have to pay for the DLC coming out tomorrow. Why did the name not reflect that? If I had known I was spending so much and only getting half of Elswyer (Northern), and would have to pay for the rest (Southern), I never would have bought it. The chapter name should have reflected that it was for ONLY the Northern section and a description should have been included, disclosing that the other half would have to be bought. Yes, I know ESO+ has access, but that really isn't the point.

DLC dungeons are also released in zones that we already have unlocked so that'd be under much the same scrutiny.

While I agree with you that the price of the chapters and DLC content is a bit too high (maybe by like 5$ for each DLC and 10$ each chapter) it was an event that was foreseeable as this does happen with every Chapter/DLC Zone that's been released since Morrowind Chapter.

If they had called it "Pellitine" instead of "Southern Elsweyr" it still wouldn't change the fact that they are the same region so I don't think it was very deceitful and rather pleasant that the Chapter/Zone DLC now matches each other in my opinion, the random jump from beautiful Summerset to drab, dreary, and downright depressing Murkmire wasn't a very welcome one in my opinion even if it did bring some excellent furnishing additions.

if you bought morrowind, you only payed for vvardenfell and not the entirety of morrowind. were you upset with it then?

I get why OP is confused. After the chapter was released there was a similar topic and some people there claimed that everyone who bought Elseweyr got the DLC for free as they were part of a story.

Conduit0 wrote: »

You didn't get half a chapter, you got a full chapter. Elswyer is roughly the same size as the previous chapters, same amount of new land to explore, same amount of new quest content, and a new class.

Is it?

I'm not trying to be obtuse but I'd swear the main story in Morrowind and Summerset took me quite a bit longer than Elsweyr's. I can knock the Elsweyr one out in a couple hours.

If you complain about "Elsweyr" not being all of Elsweyr now, i wanna ask where you were when "Morrowind" was not all of Morrowind. It should have just been named Vvardenfell if names only came from the location.

Oh and, since this isn't the first time this comes up, ZOS decided to call the chapter Elsweyr and not Anequina simply because people not familiar with ESO but other TES games would probably recognize Elsweyr but not necessarily Anequina.

SilentRaven1972 wrote: »

I'm hearing that those that bought Elswyer will also have to pay for the DLC coming out tomorrow. Why did the name not reflect that? If I had known I was spending so much and only getting half of Elswyer (Northern), and would have to pay for the rest (Southern), I never would have bought it. The chapter name should have reflected that it was for ONLY the Northern section and a description should have been included, disclosing that the other half would have to be bought. Yes, I know ESO+ has access, but that really isn't the point.

It was the full chapter with half the map, I guess 'Northern Elsweyr' doesn't ring as nicely. And yes, more transparency would be good--their releases always have issues from a sale point of view; first DLCs, then chapters, which they made a deal about being a different thing, but then they became DLCs... one thing's for sure, people who like to play new content right away will always get the most expensive/worst deal.

The MO is 1 chapter n some dlcs released per year...