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Character alliance change

SentinelRose
I would just like to ask ZOS to let us make an alliance change in the crown store.

Vote yes I'f youd like the same.

Character alliance change 97 votes

Yes
63%
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No
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  • VaranisArano
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    I want it.

    I also know that ZOS already said they weren't looking to do this during the pre-Elsweyr Q&As, since alliance is tied into a lot more base game and DLC stuff than just PVP.
  • IndianaJames7
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    No
    I think instead of crown store they should make a gold cost to change alliance (100k or so), but doing so would reset all of your pvp achievements IE. reset your rank to volunteer, get rid of former emp etc. It would not reset MMR so you can’t just get easy BG matches this way.

    I think this would be a fair compromise of not allowing people to just switch back on forth between factions, but would allow people who might only have 1 character to play with friends they have made in a different faction if they chose alliance somewhat arbitrarily when they started the game.
  • idk
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    As Varanis said, Zos already said no. Specifically that they are not interested in offering it and that was earlier this year. It is a no go.
  • Atypicalgal
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    Yes
    I don't just want it, I need it .
    My High Elf does not belong in EP.
  • Edaphon
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    No
    Definitely not. If you chose AD or EP you just have to live with that shame.

    #CovenantMasterRace #SmurfsForever
  • morrowjen
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    Yes
    I would just like to ask ZOS to let us make an alliance change in the crown store.

    Vote yes I'f youd like the same.

    Yes. I have more than one character who accidentally wound up in the wrong alliance because the character creator was set from a prior creation. It's annoying especially since I only have 3 deletions left (seems a waste to have to use that on a simple oversight that you didn't notice until you hit enter).
  • Edaphon
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    No
    morrowjen wrote: »
    I would just like to ask ZOS to let us make an alliance change in the crown store.

    Vote yes I'f youd like the same.

    Yes. I have more than one character who accidentally wound up in the wrong alliance because the character creator was set from a prior creation. It's annoying especially since I only have 3 deletions left (seems a waste to have to use that on a simple oversight that you didn't notice until you hit enter).

    You get one deletion back every 24 hours after using one.

  • Loralai_907
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    morrowjen wrote: »
    I would just like to ask ZOS to let us make an alliance change in the crown store.

    Vote yes I'f youd like the same.

    Yes. I have more than one character who accidentally wound up in the wrong alliance because the character creator was set from a prior creation. It's annoying especially since I only have 3 deletions left (seems a waste to have to use that on a simple oversight that you didn't notice until you hit enter).

    They only let you delete 3 characters in a short period of time, you won't ever run out forever, you may just have to wait if you delete 3 back to back.
    PC-NA - formerly, mommadani907Guild: Weeping Angels - Co-GMTwitter: @ Loralai_907 several Alt accounts....CP 1700+
    Active characters:Fauna Rosewood ( Bosmer Stam DK - Master Crafter/AD)///Loralai Darknova (Drunken Zombie Bosmer Stam Sorc - PvP/AD)Lilith Darknova ( Dunmer Mag DK - Master Crafter - PvP/AD)///and roughly 1billion alts
  • morrowjen
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    Yes
    Edaphon wrote: »
    morrowjen wrote: »
    I would just like to ask ZOS to let us make an alliance change in the crown store.

    Vote yes I'f youd like the same.

    Yes. I have more than one character who accidentally wound up in the wrong alliance because the character creator was set from a prior creation. It's annoying especially since I only have 3 deletions left (seems a waste to have to use that on a simple oversight that you didn't notice until you hit enter).

    You get one deletion back every 24 hours after using one.

    Ooh! Thank you. I wish I'd known that ahead of time.
  • Argelorn
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    No
    It is the only real choice left in the game with real consequences, rather than alliance change, the "any race, any alliance" upgrade should be part of main game and not a separate purchase.
  • Hamish999
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    No
    I'd love an alliance change token. But only a once per toon deal since they reintroduced the alliance lock in Cyrodiil. But has already been said above, ZOS have said it isn't going to happen (for technical reasons).
    PC-EU
    Do'Zahra - Khajiit - StamDK - AD
    Narese Telvanni - Dunmer - Petsorc - EP
    Anastasie Chastain - Breton - Magplar - DC
    Gashnakh the Lusty - Orc - Stamsorc - AD
    Stands-In-Stoopid - Argonian - Warden Tank - AD
    Talia al-Morwha - Redguard - Stamden - AD
    Makes-Fier-Wrong - Argonian - Stamblade - AD
    Busty-Argonian-Maid - Argonian - Templar Healer - AD
    Alaru Telvanni - Dunmer - Stamplar - AD
    Ko'Raehsi - Khajiit - Magsorc - AD
    Torhild Rock-Chucker - Nord - StamDK - AD
    Drusilla Larouche - Breton - MagDK - AD
    Ko'Khanni - Khajiit - Magden - AD
    Ilithyia Ectorius - Imperial - DK Tank -AD
    Rosara Laumont - Breton - Warden Healer - AD
    Do'Darri - Khajiit - Stam Arcanist - AD

    Keyboard and mouse FTW!
  • xenowarrior92eb17_ESO
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    No
    no point now...it was a thing when we had all aliances phase locked and vet zones...but now...why? if just for cyrodill go and make another alliance...I rather have them work on accountwide achievements instead of this...ooooorrrr CLASS CHANGE TOKENS!
  • vestahls
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    No
    That sounds like treason to me.
    “He is even worse than a n'wah. He is - may Vivec forgive me for uttering this word - a Hlaalu.”
    luv Abnur
    luv Rigurt
    luv Stibbons

    'ate Ayrenn
    'ate Razum-dar
    'ate Khamira

    simple as
  • Sylvermynx
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    I don't have any interest in it personally, as I have dozens of characters evenly spread over the three factions. But it wouldn't hurt my feelings if they offered it. Be aware if it ever happens, it's likely to be a VERY expensive crown store option.

    Also, wouldn't that make the Cyrodiil Master Fisher achievement pretty easy to get? Just change alliance twice to fish in your own waters....
  • barney2525
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    No
    morrowjen wrote: »
    I would just like to ask ZOS to let us make an alliance change in the crown store.

    Vote yes I'f youd like the same.

    Yes. I have more than one character who accidentally wound up in the wrong alliance because the character creator was set from a prior creation. It's annoying especially since I only have 3 deletions left (seems a waste to have to use that on a simple oversight that you didn't notice until you hit enter).

    Huh?

    You do know that the number 3 is not set in stone as in - use them and they are gone - right?

    You do know that if you use one, or two, or all three, that the next day you will have one back, and the next, and the next, until it says delete 3 again, right?


    :#
  • VaranisArano
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    Sylvermynx wrote: »
    I don't have any interest in it personally, as I have dozens of characters evenly spread over the three factions. But it wouldn't hurt my feelings if they offered it. Be aware if it ever happens, it's likely to be a VERY expensive crown store option.

    Also, wouldn't that make the Cyrodiil Master Fisher achievement pretty easy to get? Just change alliance twice to fish in your own waters....

    Not particularly, no. AD is the only one with exclusive access to a type of fishing hole deep in their territory, and even with the ocean holes, there's no real guarantee of safety.
  • FierceSam
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    No
    Either let me do or don’t. - this functionality should be free in game if it’s available

    Putting it into the Crown Store makes it an offensive P2P issue
  • Sylvermynx
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    Sylvermynx wrote: »
    I don't have any interest in it personally, as I have dozens of characters evenly spread over the three factions. But it wouldn't hurt my feelings if they offered it. Be aware if it ever happens, it's likely to be a VERY expensive crown store option.

    Also, wouldn't that make the Cyrodiil Master Fisher achievement pretty easy to get? Just change alliance twice to fish in your own waters....

    Not particularly, no. AD is the only one with exclusive access to a type of fishing hole deep in their territory, and even with the ocean holes, there's no real guarantee of safety.

    Ah. Since it seems that's the only place (other than actual PVP) that being in another faction's area can be dangerous to a character, I just thought it might turn into sort of a dodge-ish boondoggle.
  • Gnome_Saiyan
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    No
    No, but I believe Any race, Any Alliance should be part of vanilla CC.

    Every day, there's Bretons born in every zone.
    Roll your Self before you Role yourself
  • mongoLC
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    No
    This shouldn't be a crown store item it's One Tamriel now when you chose your home campaign you should have the option of choosing which faction you want to fight for but the faction you chose at start would be the default checked.
  • VaranisArano
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    Sylvermynx wrote: »
    Sylvermynx wrote: »
    I don't have any interest in it personally, as I have dozens of characters evenly spread over the three factions. But it wouldn't hurt my feelings if they offered it. Be aware if it ever happens, it's likely to be a VERY expensive crown store option.

    Also, wouldn't that make the Cyrodiil Master Fisher achievement pretty easy to get? Just change alliance twice to fish in your own waters....

    Not particularly, no. AD is the only one with exclusive access to a type of fishing hole deep in their territory, and even with the ocean holes, there's no real guarantee of safety.

    Ah. Since it seems that's the only place (other than actual PVP) that being in another faction's area can be dangerous to a character, I just thought it might turn into sort of a dodge-ish boondoggle.

    Okay, so now that I think of it, faction swap would let you pick up the 4 skyshards that are behind enemy gates with absolutely no risk, and that's about the only thing you'd be able to get free of risk. You could get some things at less risk, like the AD water holes and close towns and delves, but only the temple skyshards could be acquires with no risk.

    So sure, I guess it could be used to dodge at least one of Cyrodiil's mechanics. I'd be a little amused to see if anyone would buy those tokens just for 4 skyshards though. :)
  • goldenflameslinger
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    No
    Edaphon wrote: »
    Definitely not. If you chose AD or EP you just have to live with that shame.

    #CovenantMasterRace #SmurfsForever

    EXACTLY! If this was Reddit I would give you gold!

    PS4 NA DC id: goldenflamesling
  • Sylvermynx
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    Sylvermynx wrote: »
    Sylvermynx wrote: »
    I don't have any interest in it personally, as I have dozens of characters evenly spread over the three factions. But it wouldn't hurt my feelings if they offered it. Be aware if it ever happens, it's likely to be a VERY expensive crown store option.

    Also, wouldn't that make the Cyrodiil Master Fisher achievement pretty easy to get? Just change alliance twice to fish in your own waters....

    Not particularly, no. AD is the only one with exclusive access to a type of fishing hole deep in their territory, and even with the ocean holes, there's no real guarantee of safety.

    Ah. Since it seems that's the only place (other than actual PVP) that being in another faction's area can be dangerous to a character, I just thought it might turn into sort of a dodge-ish boondoggle.

    Okay, so now that I think of it, faction swap would let you pick up the 4 skyshards that are behind enemy gates with absolutely no risk, and that's about the only thing you'd be able to get free of risk. You could get some things at less risk, like the AD water holes and close towns and delves, but only the temple skyshards could be acquires with no risk.

    So sure, I guess it could be used to dodge at least one of Cyrodiil's mechanics. I'd be a little amused to see if anyone would buy those tokens just for 4 skyshards though. :)

    Huh. I totally spaced that angle! Well, it's not likely to happen any time soon anyway.
  • bmnoble
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    No
    There adding a non faction lock 30 day campaign, you want a character in another Alliance use one of your other character slots.
  • vibeborn
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    Yes
    I don't need one, but it could be useful to have
  • ArcVelarian
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    No
    Any faction change offers would have to be temporary and one way to the specific faction that needs the population boost at the time. For example: One month for characters to be transferred from EP to DC.
    Murphy's Law of PvP : If it can be abused and or exploited, it will be abused and or exploited.
  • TheShadowScout
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    Yes
    ...as I have said before:
    Though I still say, IF alliance change, then Done RIGHT!

    And by that I don't mean some token that pops your character to a new alliance, I do indeed mean a whole guild-DLC sized questline with an cloak and dagger (Or since this is ESO, "hood and dagger", perhaps?) spycraft flavor and a "faction loyalty called in question" plot, where you get to make a big choice in the middle - stay loyal to your alliance and prove yourself, or turn your back on them and defect to greener pastures elsewhere...

    With the second half (or two thirds, or whatever) of the questline being different depending on your choice - either uncovering the one who actually framed you, mobilize your old and trusted allies to gather support and track down the true conspiracy while dodging the agents sent to bring you in; or preparing your escape, dodging the agents sent to arrest you, courting your desired new friends while grabbing some juicy secrets on the way out to sweeten the deal, etc.

    Such a story could have a neutral city as "spycraft" focal point (like vienna during the cold war, where spies and agents often went to spy hard between the two sides - for ESO it could be some place between the alliances, a former imperial town declared "free city" after the fall of the empire in northern nibenay, eastern colovia or western skyrim, perhaps, or even an post-anchorite-war isle of stirk...), but otherwise take you all over the old faction regions, possibly revisiting a few one-time-only maps with new mobs... and perhaps even meeting a few familiar faces (come on, wouldn't you love to slam a porticullis shut into Razum-dars face as you hop on a boat bound to Morrowind with thre adorable Naryu? ;) )

    Such a questline could even have special titles depending on what you choose... "[original faction] Loyalist" or "[original faction] Defector"... obviously it would be a one-time only event, thus making serial defectors that change alliance depending on which one is currently top in cyrodil that some people always fear when this topic comes up an impossibility.

    And it also might have drawbacks for PvP, like... reduced AP gain for several months, since noone fully trusts a traitor... or maybe having to re-earn all the AP up to your current rank before you start progressing again, representing your efforts to convince your new allies of your trustworthyness... and definitely increased AP rewards if a member of your original faction takes you down, because...
    Star_wars_traitor_gif_by_mrarcadium-daafqoh.gif
    :)
    (there could even be a daily "hunt traitor" mission, and defectors from your PvP-characters alliance in cyrodil getting an visual clue while that mission is active...)

    Also, this could be a option to add new factions to PvP.
    And yes, those could be "crown store unlocks"...
    Like... have options to not just defect to one of the other two alliances, but also "go rogue" and join a new "Outlaw" faction (...black color and jolly roger flag, perhaps? Would be hostile to -every- other faction in cyrodil, and spawn at some new but unsecured base, thus very susceptible to enemy raids - trials of being an outlaw in the face of organized armies); or an "Imperial Remnant" faction (purple imperial diamond flag, spawning in some ill-secured legion base somewhere, possibly at the nibenay border, and also fighting everyone else, but turning all the "imperial" NPCs in cyrodil non-hostile?), or a "neutral" faction that is "yellow" to everyone (green flag and incapable of capturing locations, spawning at various random merchant camps and such...)
    Might be too complicated, but would still be interesting!
  • peacenote
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    Yes
    While I don't expect to ever get this :/ still gonna vote yes since I would like it. Want all my characters to be EP; was a huge mistake that I did not do this for me but now I like some of them and don't want to start over.

    So, yes, I would buy it.
    My #1 wish for ESO Today: Decouple achievements from character progress and tracking.
    • Advocate for this HERE.
    • Want the history of this issue? It's HERE.
  • Cirantille
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    No
    No, stay loyal
  • richo262
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    No
    No, they should make it so that

    Any Race Any Alliance - Your characters will shift their alliance for PVP with the lock. Essentially making alliance selection an account thing, not a character thing, but only relevant for characters for the purposes of questing.

    No Any Race Any Alliance - Your character is stuck with your selected Alliance and cannot change UNLESS it has completed Cadwell Silver / Cadwell Gold. For instance, and EP character can only join EP. If your DC character decides to play PVP your EP character is locked out of PVP. However, if your EP character completes Cadwell Silver (DC quest line) then it can join Cyro under the DC alliance lock.
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