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CP 1000+ 5 star player problem
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SipofMaim✭✭✭✭DCZergNoob wrote: »JonnytheKing wrote: »%80 bought accounts
%10 *** players
%10 old payers coming back
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Some day you too may take a year-long break and come back to find you have to learn to play a different game than what you played before.
At some point it's going to filter into common wisdom that CP and AvA rank don't assure any particular expertise.
Players get to a certain skill cap in eso that they can leave for large periods of time and come back and still be good at pvp
Really. Well that is a relief.0 -
DCZergNoob✭✭✭xeha_arwen11 wrote: »Darios_Heliodromos wrote: »DCZergNoob wrote: »I have been seing alot of players in PVP lately that are high CP and 5 star that have absolutely no clue how to PVP. I've seen these people in fights.
They wont break free
They wont keep buffed up
And sometimes they do as little as spam light attacks
These players have all this proof that they have been playing in cyrodiil for a really long time and yet play like they bought the game 3 days ago
Now look I'm not trying to be toxic here and I know it sounds like it. But whether you've always been a boss at any game you play, or someone who just games for fun. Having this much CP and being the literal max rank in PVP. That time spent getting there should atleast learn the game to a point where you can hold your own against other players. And yet these players will die within a matter of seconds
I'm CP 800+ and I generally avoid PvP (and veteran dungeons) due to comments like this.
It's just a game...
This is the very understandable view a lot of my friends have about PvP in this game, too. I agree with your view. I have PvP'd a lot, I have been at the bottom, and I have been at the top. From the bottom to the top, it's all awful. Vicious horrible toxic people everywhere. Exploitation and cheating everywhere. For anyone thinking about trying PvP in this game, I HEAVILY recommend staying away from it. It's disgustingly toxic. Please try it if you really want to, of course; that's obviously your call, but I can almost guarantee it will be horrible unless you go with a kind guild and just communicate with them.
This original poster just embodies the toxic disposition of a typical PvPer, albeit his post is far less toxic than the usual PvPer.
To respond to the original post, there could be a rash of new players buying veteran player's accounts. Or it could just be a person who has played the game since launch and had fun with the game in other ways like questing. As for the 5-star, maybe they just had casual fun with some guild mates at Cyro over the years. I don't know.
If they did something wrong like buying an account or getting AP by exploit etc, then that's wrong and I disapprove of that. But if they are aboveboard then that's a different story.
There is nothing wrong with them going to PvP and trying it out and learning how it works. They are not obligated to know how to play at "your level". For that matter, no one, regardless of level, is obligated to know how to be what you consider "good" at the game in any way. People purchased this game and should be able to have fun without being shamed and criticized for not getting good fast enough.
I used to PvP a huge amount. I only do it rarely, now. The absolutely rampant toxicity and cheating/exploitation completely broke the experience for me. I also didn't even start veteran dungeons until I was level 600; even fungal grotto 1. Why? Because I didn't feel like being instantly kicked before even starting the dungeon. I was right to wait.
I don't even do vet dungeons very much right now. I find myself angry every time I go through a dungeon. Someone always is incredibly rude to a teammate or me. It was really bad when I was a dps main, and now it's MUCH worse as a healer main. One time I ported to a dungeon where these people ordered me around like I was a trained dog. Not joking. I left, obviously. I don't take toxicity, and no one else should either.
I legit said in a reply that i knew account buying was a big possibility ( I even meant to include it with the OP but i forgot)
And as previously said in my OP that im trying not to be toxic, but if there is nothing to do with account sharing and they got from rank 0-50 and still dont have the slightest clue on how pvp mechanics work, then there just not paying attention at all & PVP just might not be for them. It's not for everybody and I understand that. But my point still stands . I'm not going to trash talk every GO i see who plays like hes new to the game. I'm just stating its become a more common thing these days.
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The_Art_of_Paw✭✭✭Congrats on being good enough to find dedicated players as easy kills. Not really much sense in complaining that others aren't as good as you, i'm not sure what you want to happen.
In any competitive environment there are competitors at the top. Then you get that whole other lot that aren't at the top. That's how it all works.
Just train up a guild of your faction to be awesome. Then tell them you are leaving the game and switch sides, then presto, a full guild full of awesome competition for you to start anew with. I'm sure you are creative enough to find a solution, you are competent to get to top tiers after all
Good luck out there, have a fun end to the week
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rpa✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭If I ever start getting into PvP in this game, I'll do it with group of friends/guildies in voice chat. In my experience with other games, that's fun, even for not so great players. Solo PvP is just dready.0 -
Darkenarlol✭✭✭✭✭
✭many old school mutagen spammers
has eventually grown into grand overlordsnoobs
i've met some 5 stars emperors who had
no ideas of basic game mechanics
after all alliance war rank and CP
is just how many time you've spent in the game
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DCZergNoob✭✭✭The_Art_of_Paw wrote: »Congrats on being good enough to find dedicated players as easy kills. Not really much sense in complaining that others aren't as good as you, i'm not sure what you want to happen.
In any competitive environment there are competitors at the top. Then you get that whole other lot that aren't at the top. That's how it all works.
Just train up a guild of your faction to be awesome. Then tell them you are leaving the game and switch sides, then presto, a full guild full of awesome competition for you to start anew with. I'm sure you are creative enough to find a solution, you are competent to get to top tiers after all
Good luck out there, have a fun end to the week
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✭✭✭✭✭p_tsakirisb16_ESO wrote: »
Weird that you don't see many Goons in ESO... or, maybe I'm just oblivious to the guild they're running.0 -
InvictusApollo✭✭✭✭✭
✭DCZergNoob wrote: »I have been seing alot of players in PVP lately that are high CP and 5 star that have absolutely no clue how to PVP. I've seen these people in fights.
They wont break free
They wont keep buffed up
And sometimes they do as little as spam light attacks
These players have all this proof that they have been playing in cyrodiil for a really long time and yet play like they bought the game 3 days ago
Now look I'm not trying to be toxic here and I know it sounds like it. But whether you've always been a boss at any game you play, or someone who just games for fun. Having this much CP and being the literal max rank in PVP. That time spent getting there should atleast learn the game to a point where you can hold your own against other players. And yet these players will die within a matter of seconds
Since many people left ESO it is only prudent to assume that at least some of them sold their accounts. Then someone bought such an account and started playing.
Another reason might be the fact that those people haven't really fought in PvP. They were farming AP as zerglings and with time they accumulated five stars.4 -
Rungar✭✭✭✭✭
✭DCZergNoob wrote: »I have been seing alot of players in PVP lately that are high CP and 5 star that have absolutely no clue how to PVP. I've seen these people in fights.
They wont break free
They wont keep buffed up
And sometimes they do as little as spam light attacks
These players have all this proof that they have been playing in cyrodiil for a really long time and yet play like they bought the game 3 days ago
Now look I'm not trying to be toxic here and I know it sounds like it. But whether you've always been a boss at any game you play, or someone who just games for fun. Having this much CP and being the literal max rank in PVP. That time spent getting there should atleast learn the game to a point where you can hold your own against other players. And yet these players will die within a matter of seconds
Its actually you that doesnt know how eso pvp works. They are only there until they reach rank 1 of the campaign to get the transmute stone on that character then switch to another. You dont have to get good or learn to play to achieve that.only a few years left to go now....
Current ideas for ESO improvement
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FierceSam✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭CP is no indication of anything other than time spent in the game.
AP is no indication of anything other than time spent in PvP
Given there is almost zero in game attention given to teaching players how to play the game, it is unsurprising that some players don’t use the ‘basic’ skills OP talks about. So they die a lot.... I thought that was what PvP was all about.7 -
DCZergNoob✭✭✭DCZergNoob wrote: »I have been seing alot of players in PVP lately that are high CP and 5 star that have absolutely no clue how to PVP. I've seen these people in fights.
They wont break free
They wont keep buffed up
And sometimes they do as little as spam light attacks
These players have all this proof that they have been playing in cyrodiil for a really long time and yet play like they bought the game 3 days ago
Now look I'm not trying to be toxic here and I know it sounds like it. But whether you've always been a boss at any game you play, or someone who just games for fun. Having this much CP and being the literal max rank in PVP. That time spent getting there should atleast learn the game to a point where you can hold your own against other players. And yet these players will die within a matter of seconds
Its actually you that doesnt know how eso pvp works. They are only there until they reach rank 1 of the campaign to get the transmute stone on that character then switch to another. You dont have to get good or learn to play to achieve that.
I hope your trolling or being sarcastic0 -
Stebarnz✭✭✭✭✭
✭DCZergNoob wrote: »DCZergNoob wrote: »I have been seing alot of players in PVP lately that are high CP and 5 star that have absolutely no clue how to PVP. I've seen these people in fights.
They wont break free
They wont keep buffed up
And sometimes they do as little as spam light attacks
These players have all this proof that they have been playing in cyrodiil for a really long time and yet play like they bought the game 3 days ago
Now look I'm not trying to be toxic here and I know it sounds like it. But whether you've always been a boss at any game you play, or someone who just games for fun. Having this much CP and being the literal max rank in PVP. That time spent getting there should atleast learn the game to a point where you can hold your own against other players. And yet these players will die within a matter of seconds
Its actually you that doesnt know how eso pvp works. They are only there until they reach rank 1 of the campaign to get the transmute stone on that character then switch to another. You dont have to get good or learn to play to achieve that.
I hope your trolling or being sarcastic
Your name is DCzergnoob and you are commenting on peoples ability to play this game, your name is the definition of poor play on this game.
The majority of people who go into cyro do so to get a transmute, I am one of them I get them on as many of my characters as I can, pvp is ridiculous in this game not investing any of my time getting serious about it!
As for grand warlords, high CP players, maybe they are bored of it.8 -
Xarc✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭DCZergNoob wrote: »And yes 1k+ cp on its own isnt alot, but it says something when a character combines that with rank 50 GO in PVP
It says what ?@xarcs FR-EU-PC -"Death is overrated", Xarc
Xãrc -- breton necro - DC - AvA rank50
Xarcus -- imperial DK - DC - AvA rank50 - pureclass DK
Xärc -- breton NB - DC - AvA rank49 - pureclass NB
Elnaa - breton NB - DC - AvA rank50 - healer
Isilenil - Altmer NB - AD - AvA rank41 - pureclass NB
Felisja - Bosmer NB - DC - AvA rank43 - pureclass NB
Sarah Cénia - Bosmer DK - DC - AvA rank23
Glàdys - redguard templar - DC - AvA rank40 - pureclass Templar
Xaljaa - breton NB - now EP - AvA rank40
Coquelìcot - breton NB - EP - AvA rank26
+ 10 other characters
* in game: since April 2014
* forum: since December 20141 -
JonnytheKing✭✭✭✭✭JonnytheKing wrote: »%80 bought accounts
%10 *** players
%10 old payers coming back
^
Some day you too may take a year-long break and come back to find you have to learn to play a different game than what you played before.
At some point it's going to filter into common wisdom that CP and AvA rank don't assure any particular expertise.
lol i wasnt havig a go , chill bro. or u just bad and trying to cover it up
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DCZergNoob✭✭✭CP is no indication of anything other than time spent in the game.
AP is no indication of anything other than time spent in PvP
Given there is almost zero in game attention given to teaching players how to play the game, it is unsurprising that some players don’t use the ‘basic’ skills OP talks about. So they die a lot.... I thought that was what PvP was all about.
Yes but shouldn't said player atleast have some form of knowledge on how to fight back after spending so much time in pvp?
I'm talking 5 star players who have NO IDEA on even the most basic of mechanics of PVP.
I'm not expecting every player to be able to anim cancel 5 hits every 1/half second0 -
SipofMaim✭✭✭✭JonnytheKing wrote: »JonnytheKing wrote: »%80 bought accounts
%10 *** players
%10 old payers coming back
^
Some day you too may take a year-long break and come back to find you have to learn to play a different game than what you played before.
At some point it's going to filter into common wisdom that CP and AvA rank don't assure any particular expertise.
lol i wasnt havig a go , chill bro. or u just bad and trying to cover it up
I wasn't either, just agreeing with you. O.o0 -
JonnytheKing✭✭✭✭✭Mariusghost84 wrote: »I am one of these players. I played pve only untill 810 and never cared for pvp. Now im learning how to become good at pvp and i do a lot of noob stuff in bgs, and Cyrodil.
and 5 star , are u 5 start too or can u not read ?TWITCH jtk__gaming
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Xarc✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭As for grand warlords, high CP players, maybe they are bored of it.
tbh, when you see people without any skill doing high damages with sets/huge dots and light attacks, it's easy to be bored. Now, i would say, blame zenimax, not players.@xarcs FR-EU-PC -"Death is overrated", Xarc
Xãrc -- breton necro - DC - AvA rank50
Xarcus -- imperial DK - DC - AvA rank50 - pureclass DK
Xärc -- breton NB - DC - AvA rank49 - pureclass NB
Elnaa - breton NB - DC - AvA rank50 - healer
Isilenil - Altmer NB - AD - AvA rank41 - pureclass NB
Felisja - Bosmer NB - DC - AvA rank43 - pureclass NB
Sarah Cénia - Bosmer DK - DC - AvA rank23
Glàdys - redguard templar - DC - AvA rank40 - pureclass Templar
Xaljaa - breton NB - now EP - AvA rank40
Coquelìcot - breton NB - EP - AvA rank26
+ 10 other characters
* in game: since April 2014
* forum: since December 20141 -
DCZergNoob✭✭✭DCZergNoob wrote: »And yes 1k+ cp on its own isnt alot, but it says something when a character combines that with rank 50 GO in PVP
It says what ?
Do i seriously have to say every little detail?1 -
Ryath_Waylander✭✭✭✭✭
✭DCZergNoob wrote: »DCZergNoob wrote: »I have been seing alot of players in PVP lately that are high CP and 5 star that have absolutely no clue how to PVP. I've seen these people in fights.
They wont break free
They wont keep buffed up
And sometimes they do as little as spam light attacks
These players have all this proof that they have been playing in cyrodiil for a really long time and yet play like they bought the game 3 days ago
Now look I'm not trying to be toxic here and I know it sounds like it. But whether you've always been a boss at any game you play, or someone who just games for fun. Having this much CP and being the literal max rank in PVP. That time spent getting there should atleast learn the game to a point where you can hold your own against other players. And yet these players will die within a matter of seconds
Its actually you that doesnt know how eso pvp works. They are only there until they reach rank 1 of the campaign to get the transmute stone on that character then switch to another. You dont have to get good or learn to play to achieve that.
I hope your trolling or being sarcastic
To tell you the truth, I don't think so. If you get tier 1 in a campaign, you get 50 transmute crystals. That's like 1/2 hour zerging for a pve player compared to 3vet dungeons (say 2hrs) with a mediocre pug, not counting anything up to a 2hr queue per dungeon as a DD. And that'll get you 6 to 8 crystals per day and burnout in 2 weeks of doing it to get the same 50 crystals. AP is just like cp, unless you solo or small scale, you will accumulate it in a zerg without learning any pvp skills if you're lazy.3 -
JonnytheKing✭✭✭✭✭DCZergNoob wrote: »I have been seing alot of players in PVP lately that are high CP and 5 star that have absolutely no clue how to PVP. I've seen these people in fights.
They wont break free
They wont keep buffed up
And sometimes they do as little as spam light attacks
These players have all this proof that they have been playing in cyrodiil for a really long time and yet play like they bought the game 3 days ago
Now look I'm not trying to be toxic here and I know it sounds like it. But whether you've always been a boss at any game you play, or someone who just games for fun. Having this much CP and being the literal max rank in PVP. That time spent getting there should atleast learn the game to a point where you can hold your own against other players. And yet these players will die within a matter of seconds
Its actually you that doesnt know how eso pvp works. They are only there until they reach rank 1 of the campaign to get the transmute stone on that character then switch to another. You dont have to get good or learn to play to achieve that.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO yourthe one that cant read , are those poeple grand overlouds , no there not.TWITCH jtk__gaming
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EmEm_Oh✭✭✭✭✭DCZergNoob wrote: »I have been seing alot of players in PVP lately that are high CP and 5 star that have absolutely no clue how to PVP. I've seen these people in fights.
They wont break free
They wont keep buffed up
And sometimes they do as little as spam light attacks
These players have all this proof that they have been playing in cyrodiil for a really long time and yet play like they bought the game 3 days ago
Now look I'm not trying to be toxic here and I know it sounds like it. But whether you've always been a boss at any game you play, or someone who just games for fun. Having this much CP and being the literal max rank in PVP. That time spent getting there should atleast learn the game to a point where you can hold your own against other players. And yet these players will die within a matter of seconds
People have expensive sports cars.
Doesn't mean they can drive them.
Don't judge a book comes to mind.
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DCZergNoob✭✭✭DCZergNoob wrote: »DCZergNoob wrote: »I have been seing alot of players in PVP lately that are high CP and 5 star that have absolutely no clue how to PVP. I've seen these people in fights.
They wont break free
They wont keep buffed up
And sometimes they do as little as spam light attacks
These players have all this proof that they have been playing in cyrodiil for a really long time and yet play like they bought the game 3 days ago
Now look I'm not trying to be toxic here and I know it sounds like it. But whether you've always been a boss at any game you play, or someone who just games for fun. Having this much CP and being the literal max rank in PVP. That time spent getting there should atleast learn the game to a point where you can hold your own against other players. And yet these players will die within a matter of seconds
Its actually you that doesnt know how eso pvp works. They are only there until they reach rank 1 of the campaign to get the transmute stone on that character then switch to another. You dont have to get good or learn to play to achieve that.
I hope your trolling or being sarcastic
Your name is DCzergnoob and you are commenting on peoples ability to play this game, your name is the definition of poor play on this game.
The majority of people who go into cyro do so to get a transmute, I am one of them I get them on as many of my characters as I can, pvp is ridiculous in this game not investing any of my time getting serious about it!
As for grand warlords, high CP players, maybe they are bored of it.
Tell me something I dont know, Its literally why i have this name. Its a meme.0 -
Stebarnz✭✭✭✭✭
✭DCZergNoob wrote: »DCZergNoob wrote: »DCZergNoob wrote: »I have been seing alot of players in PVP lately that are high CP and 5 star that have absolutely no clue how to PVP. I've seen these people in fights.
They wont break free
They wont keep buffed up
And sometimes they do as little as spam light attacks
These players have all this proof that they have been playing in cyrodiil for a really long time and yet play like they bought the game 3 days ago
Now look I'm not trying to be toxic here and I know it sounds like it. But whether you've always been a boss at any game you play, or someone who just games for fun. Having this much CP and being the literal max rank in PVP. That time spent getting there should atleast learn the game to a point where you can hold your own against other players. And yet these players will die within a matter of seconds
Its actually you that doesnt know how eso pvp works. They are only there until they reach rank 1 of the campaign to get the transmute stone on that character then switch to another. You dont have to get good or learn to play to achieve that.
I hope your trolling or being sarcastic
Your name is DCzergnoob and you are commenting on peoples ability to play this game, your name is the definition of poor play on this game.
The majority of people who go into cyro do so to get a transmute, I am one of them I get them on as many of my characters as I can, pvp is ridiculous in this game not investing any of my time getting serious about it!
As for grand warlords, high CP players, maybe they are bored of it.
Tell me something I dont know, Its literally why i have this name. Its a meme.
Well, you are a meme, I agree.4 -
DCZergNoob✭✭✭DCZergNoob wrote: »DCZergNoob wrote: »DCZergNoob wrote: »I have been seing alot of players in PVP lately that are high CP and 5 star that have absolutely no clue how to PVP. I've seen these people in fights.
They wont break free
They wont keep buffed up
And sometimes they do as little as spam light attacks
These players have all this proof that they have been playing in cyrodiil for a really long time and yet play like they bought the game 3 days ago
Now look I'm not trying to be toxic here and I know it sounds like it. But whether you've always been a boss at any game you play, or someone who just games for fun. Having this much CP and being the literal max rank in PVP. That time spent getting there should atleast learn the game to a point where you can hold your own against other players. And yet these players will die within a matter of seconds
Its actually you that doesnt know how eso pvp works. They are only there until they reach rank 1 of the campaign to get the transmute stone on that character then switch to another. You dont have to get good or learn to play to achieve that.
I hope your trolling or being sarcastic
Your name is DCzergnoob and you are commenting on peoples ability to play this game, your name is the definition of poor play on this game.
The majority of people who go into cyro do so to get a transmute, I am one of them I get them on as many of my characters as I can, pvp is ridiculous in this game not investing any of my time getting serious about it!
As for grand warlords, high CP players, maybe they are bored of it.
Tell me something I dont know, Its literally why i have this name. Its a meme.
Well, you are a meme, I agree.
What's that supposed to mean? Are you trying to start unnecessary beef by defending people who have thousands of hours in pvp yet still have no idea what there doing0 -
JonnytheKing✭✭✭✭✭DCZergNoob wrote: »DCZergNoob wrote: »I have been seing alot of players in PVP lately that are high CP and 5 star that have absolutely no clue how to PVP. I've seen these people in fights.
They wont break free
They wont keep buffed up
And sometimes they do as little as spam light attacks
These players have all this proof that they have been playing in cyrodiil for a really long time and yet play like they bought the game 3 days ago
Now look I'm not trying to be toxic here and I know it sounds like it. But whether you've always been a boss at any game you play, or someone who just games for fun. Having this much CP and being the literal max rank in PVP. That time spent getting there should atleast learn the game to a point where you can hold your own against other players. And yet these players will die within a matter of seconds
Its actually you that doesnt know how eso pvp works. They are only there until they reach rank 1 of the campaign to get the transmute stone on that character then switch to another. You dont have to get good or learn to play to achieve that.
I hope your trolling or being sarcastic
Your name is DCzergnoob and you are commenting on peoples ability to play this game, your name is the definition of poor play on this game.
The majority of people who go into cyro do so to get a transmute, I am one of them I get them on as many of my characters as I can, pvp is ridiculous in this game not investing any of my time getting serious about it!
As for grand warlords, high CP players, maybe they are bored of it.
by that logic im a real king , , *** yer , hey mum i made it in life , im a kingTWITCH jtk__gaming
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