Dragon Rise. Is it doomed to fail?

Pinja · October 2019

So visiting the dragon rise web site, I saw what initially looked like amazing progress towards the community goals.

49% in two days meant we had till the end of the weekend before goal complete.

Then I read this...

Seemingly innocent the highlighted phrase shows us that every pathfinder achievement since June has only added up to 49%. Meaning we have 9 days from this post to accumulate more then double the amount of pathfinders since June in order to get the sweet pile of loot.

Meaning we should tell everyone to hurry and get pathfinder or no one if it hardly counts towards the progression.

Correct me if anyone knows how it works and can give a better estimate of the completion. Because right now it appears as if were not going flinch the objectives.

susmitds · October 2019

It has no chance of failing. That would be massive bad PR.

Glurin · October 2019

Don't forget it's not just the pathfinder achievement. It also counts slaying dragons and the not yet active prologue quests.

redspecter23 · October 2019

susmitds wrote: »

It has no chance of failing. That would be massive bad PR.

I agree. It's very likely that the killing of the dragons is just for show and they will simply move the bar up a set amount each day. Maybe I'm wrong, but it would be a horrible waste of time to code stuff that players never get. Even if the event fails at some of the tiers, they would likely give away the prize in some other way later (or sell it in the store if they want to be really shady).

redgreensunset · October 2019

Pinja wrote: »

So visiting the dragon rise web site, I saw what initially looked like amazing progress towards the community goals.

49% in two days meant we had till the end of the weekend before goal complete.

Then I read this...

Seemingly innocent the highlighted phrase shows us that every pathfinder achievement since June has only added up to 49%. Meaning we have 9 days from this post to accumulate more then double the amount of pathfinders since June in order to get the sweet pile of loot.

Meaning we should tell everyone to hurry and get pathfinder or no one if it hardly counts towards the progression.

Correct me if anyone knows how it works and can give a better estimate of the completion. Because right now it appears as if were not going flinch the objectives.

As others have said it isn't just the Pathfinder achievement that count, slaying dragons and doing the prologue quest once it's released does as well. They're just being nice and counting all those Pathfinder achievements that were earned before the event began.
In fact, that meter started out on I think it was 36% so we've slain dragons worth 13 percentage points worth of progress. Not bad fpr two days work. At this rate, counting only dragom slaying, we should be done in 8-9 days, which should put us at 100% at event end unless dragon killing severely drops off. And that of course doesn't include any progress made through doing that prologue quest

Ysbriel · October 2019

ah the pathfinder!! i knew i was missing something

Dusk_Coven · October 2019

This is the main number that count$ https://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/slaydragonssavecats

Even if we don't hit the big prize unlocks, that just means ZOS can recycle them for another event down the line.
No matter what, it's win-win for ZOS and the cat team

Yuffie91 · October 2019

Last I checked it was on 38% stuck there. It updates slow I think. We will get it don't worry

SeaGtGruff · October 2019

If we earn the Pathfinder achievement on additional characters, does it count? Because I have 4 alts on NA and 6(?) alts on EU who don't have that achievement yet.

Yuffie91 · October 2019

Also remember it's weekend today. More ppl will be working on it from early on. Including me when I drag myself out off bed

redgreensunset · October 2019

@Dusk_Coven you and OP are talking about two different meters. Yours is the "donate to the kitties" while theirs is the in game reward meter.
Also yes the overall meter for me shows 49% with the "dragons slain" below, showing 20%.

Dusk_Coven · October 2019

redgreensunset wrote: »

@Dusk_Coven you and OP are talking about two different meters. Yours is the "donate to the kitties" while theirs is the in game reward meter.

Yes I know. But OP's thread title suggests they are worried the event has failed.
I'm suggesting that it has already succeeded.

redgreensunset · October 2019

Dusk_Coven wrote: »

redgreensunset wrote: »

@Dusk_Coven you and OP are talking about two different meters. Yours is the "donate to the kitties" while theirs is the in game reward meter.

Yes I know. But OP's thread title suggests they are worried the event has failed.
I'm suggesting that it has already succeeded.

I guess that depends on ones criteria for success or failure. Not saying you're wrong, just that with an event like this whether we suceed or fail may depend on what's important to a person. You're also kinda comparing apples sad oranges.

Faulgor · October 2019

Nah it'll be fine, it was like that last year too.

Edaphon · October 2019

For anyone interested, here are last year's numbers: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/436203/summerfall-event-day-8-100-we-made-it/p1

As you can see, we already have more now at day 2 (49%) than we had last year at the same time (42%).

And also this, of course:

susmitds wrote: »

It has no chance of failing. That would be massive bad PR.

Yuffie91 · October 2019

Edaphon wrote: »

For anyone interested, here are last year's numbers: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/436203/summerfall-event-day-8-100-we-made-it/p1

As you can see, we already have more now at day 2 (49%) than we had last year at the same time (42%).

And also this, of course:

susmitds wrote: »

It has no chance of failing. That would be massive bad PR.

Wasn't last years event longer?

FierceSam · October 2019

There is zero chance of the dragonkat bulls**tometer failing to peak during PR promomax eventtime.

starkerealm · October 2019

Yuffie91 wrote: »

Last I checked it was on 38% stuck there. It updates slow I think. We will get it don't worry

It's updated once per day. Probably by hand.

UntilValhalla13 · October 2019

We'll never know the actual numbers. They just seem to make them up as they go along, like last year. Being clear and direct isn't really what they do a lot of the times. XD

Huyen · October 2019

Yuffie91 wrote: »

Last I checked it was on 38% stuck there. It updates slow I think. We will get it don't worry

Not to be a meany, but did they even state when we are supposed to get said rewards? Last I heard it was around june 2020...

Also slaying dragons is till december 9th for charity...

Yuffie91 · October 2019

Huyen wrote: »

Yuffie91 wrote: »

Last I checked it was on 38% stuck there. It updates slow I think. We will get it don't worry

Not to be a meany, but did they even state when we are supposed to get said rewards? Last I heard it was around june 2020...

After the event ends

SosRuvaak · October 2019

i cant imagine they havent figured out the spawn rate of the dragons vs the time for completion.
the dragons go down in 30 seconds.

Ruinhorn · October 2019

susmitds wrote: »

It has no chance of failing. That would be massive bad PR.

Exactly. Everything works as intended, and players will get their rewards anyway, there is no 'chance' of failing.
Same was with Summerset and Psijic Villa - just a fancy page with updating numbers.

Mannix1958 · October 2019

Pinja wrote: »

So visiting the dragon rise web site, I saw what initially looked like amazing progress towards the community goals.

49% in two days meant we had till the end of the weekend before goal complete.

Then I read this...

Seemingly innocent the highlighted phrase shows us that every pathfinder achievement since June has only added up to 49%. Meaning we have 9 days from this post to accumulate more then double the amount of pathfinders since June in order to get the sweet pile of loot.

Meaning we should tell everyone to hurry and get pathfinder or no one if it hardly counts towards the progression.

Correct me if anyone knows how it works and can give a better estimate of the completion. Because right now it appears as if were not going flinch the objectives.

It worked last year for the Grand Psjiic Villa and other prizes with the same community goal format. I think we'll hit the marks again.

quadraxis666 · October 2019

Same as the Psijic event, they absolutely will not let it fail, these types of community events never fail and that's by design. What company is going to want it seen that their community event had too small a community to hit the goal?

wnights · October 2019

Guys we've been through this last year already. This is a PR event to increase Elsweyr sales and encoutage people to spread hype about the new chapter. The meter most probably means absolutely nothing and is there just to keep us interested and encourage people to keep playing and killing dragons. We will get all the rewards. Stop worrying.

P.S. Despite how my message may sound, I think this a good event and I like that they have also added a good cause to it.

Kadoin · October 2019

wnights wrote: »

Guys we've been through this last year already. This is a PR event to increase Elsweyr sales and encoutage people to spread hype about the new chapter. The meter most probably means absolutely nothing and is there just to keep us interested and encourage people to keep playing and killing dragons. We will get all the rewards. Stop worrying.

P.S. Despite how my message may sound, I think this a good event and I like that they have also added a good cause to it.

During the Summerset event I worked hard to stop it from reaching 100%, but it did anyway. I have no doubt that the same will happen here because it would be a PR disaster for ZOS if it didn't, and from what I know of all the Japanese MMOs that do similar things, a reward would not be offered if it were not already planned to be given 100%...

Nordic__Knights · October 2019

This part of the even for theres items is from 10/3-10/14 11 days way i see it we'll get 11% added to pathfinder each update / day till done at 100%
And with the 200,000 dollars its already been gave just not said yet , and we'll see an 20% or more to give xp buff starting Monday added each update/day till its drone 100%
Some side something about next part going to add to this no thats another event on its own for different items gold buff in area that might fail because its just gold and it wouldn't be an big loss being right after we get an event thats giving US players even more awards with better items in them starting 11/26-12/8. So only part of all it i see failing is the gold buff rest failing would just look bad to the outside eye and players would LEAVE OUT being most already are 1 foot in 1 foot out due to change to game happening so quickly all the time
But tbh only part of whole event i wanting to see good to 100% for sure is the pets 200,000 , being at end of day 2 of event i already have killed 200 dragons and plan to kill an 100 per day till over or we reach 100%
But all and all rest of it doesn't matter much,not like its anything we dont have already or will even use an year from now but them pets getting food and shelter thats an everyday thing that NEEDS to be done and the 💰 will help that an lil hopefully

Raisin · October 2019

To add onto this, I distinctly recall during the Summerset event they were even semi-honest about this and said that the 100% number wasn't calculated yet and they would see based on early participation what a realistic 100% goal would be.
Or maybe I imagined that idk.

Nordic__Knights · October 2019

Raisin wrote: »

To add onto this, I distinctly recall during the Summerset event they were even semi-honest about this and said that the 100% number wasn't calculated yet and they would see based on early participation what a realistic 100% goal would be.
Or maybe I imagined that idk.

For summerset you had NA players going to EU for the 1st time for many and EU coming to NA to do pathfinder on both sides so they couldn't put that 100% had to transfer and do both so they said they'll just say x is 100% even if it wasn't due to the crossing over thing going on
And i recall it wasn't an good time on both NA/EU players that switched as lots of disrespectful things was happening on both sides less i know i kicked 4 guild members that thought it to be funny to disrespect EU players when over there as i spent more time on EU side hosting groups and made LOTS of cool friends some that helped me today get my EU pathfinder done as they still an year later hadn't kicked me from their guild i joined while there and once again we had FUN today like then wish more could come together no matter NA OR EU when events go on tbh

Dagoth_Rac · October 2019

SeaGtGruff wrote: »

If we earn the Pathfinder achievement on additional characters, does it count? Because I have 4 alts on NA and 6(?) alts on EU who don't have that achievement yet.

For Summerset event last year, it only counted once per megaserver. So assuming this works the same, you can get it once on NA and once on EU and that is your maximum contribution.