Deathlord92 wrote: »A stun on incap would allow us to secure kills atm with cast times most of my incaps are dodge. We need major fracture back so we can kill tanks ur lying if u are saying u kill every stam dk u cross the ones that know what they are doing are to tanky.I dont get it, why is the anger about Nightblades. As i noticed, its can stand up against Templars or DK's... if something is too tanky to kill, thats too weak for kill you as well if you know the class. Even medium armor stamblades!
I agree with Relentless, but Incap silence is actually a good, "sneaky" CC what people rarely break. It can be maybe a bit longer cuz' its breakable.
The only problem with most Stamina Nightblade player, is the "tube vision". Get huge dmg, and nothing else matters.
Im sure, ZOS will fix the issues with Stamblades, but its really not much, its far not ruined.
I feel Stamblades more like rouges now instead a ganking class, what im actually happy for. If they buff Relentless Focus somehow, or rework it i would be happy with the class at all.
For example, i can survive in the chaos of Imperial City at this event for very long. Whole zergs chasing me, but i can escape and get kills while running. Is there any other, squishy class what can do this? I doubt. Please guys do not worry and cry about nightblades, try to adapt instead. I play only stamblade and somehow i were succesful with this patch, so anyone can be.
Just give some love to Relentless and i would be happy with the class ^^
Yup exactly.Jagdkommando wrote: »Deathlord92 wrote: »A stun on incap would allow us to secure kills atm with cast times most of my incaps are dodge. We need major fracture back so we can kill tanks ur lying if u are saying u kill every stam dk u cross the ones that know what they are doing are to tanky.I dont get it, why is the anger about Nightblades. As i noticed, its can stand up against Templars or DK's... if something is too tanky to kill, thats too weak for kill you as well if you know the class. Even medium armor stamblades!
I agree with Relentless, but Incap silence is actually a good, "sneaky" CC what people rarely break. It can be maybe a bit longer cuz' its breakable.
The only problem with most Stamina Nightblade player, is the "tube vision". Get huge dmg, and nothing else matters.
Im sure, ZOS will fix the issues with Stamblades, but its really not much, its far not ruined.
I feel Stamblades more like rouges now instead a ganking class, what im actually happy for. If they buff Relentless Focus somehow, or rework it i would be happy with the class at all.
For example, i can survive in the chaos of Imperial City at this event for very long. Whole zergs chasing me, but i can escape and get kills while running. Is there any other, squishy class what can do this? I doubt. Please guys do not worry and cry about nightblades, try to adapt instead. I play only stamblade and somehow i were succesful with this patch, so anyone can be.
Just give some love to Relentless and i would be happy with the class ^^
nightblade vs tanky dk is 100% lost battle, also grims 10% mitigation is NOTHING
What we really need back is major fracture more then anything back on surprise attack that was our tool for tanks. Minor mending certainly would be good especially in dot meta and I was thinking dot on ambush like lotus fan that really help damage and put a lot of pressure on tanks.So what exactly is the issue with NB? I was thinking about it and trying to figure out what the class needs. I think it’s the missing sources of vitality or mending but am not sure. You used to be able to build NBs to be tanky but burst feels up this patch on every class except NB.
FearlessOne_2014 wrote: »
Stamblade is very weak. As the guys who just recently pulled his out of retirement. Did to experience this weakness in his Stamblade last week. Again this is a guy that's no even that specialized in Stamblade.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwBGhQCVO44
Stamblade is in need of a buff what??????????????????????????????????????????????????
Thanatos_inside wrote: »FearlessOne_2014 wrote: »
Stamblade is very weak. As the guys who just recently pulled his out of retirement. Did to experience this weakness in his Stamblade last week. Again this is a guy that's no even that specialized in Stamblade.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwBGhQCVO44
Stamblade is in need of a buff what??????????????????????????????????????????????????
He killed total noobs in the video. its real at any class
Thanatos_inside wrote: »FearlessOne_2014 wrote: »
Stamblade is very weak. As the guys who just recently pulled his out of retirement. Did to experience this weakness in his Stamblade last week. Again this is a guy that's no even that specialized in Stamblade.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwBGhQCVO44
Stamblade is in need of a buff what??????????????????????????????????????????????????
He killed total noobs in the video. its real at any class
FearlessOne_2014 wrote: »Thanatos_inside wrote: »FearlessOne_2014 wrote: »
Stamblade is very weak. As the guys who just recently pulled his out of retirement. Did to experience this weakness in his Stamblade last week. Again this is a guy that's no even that specialized in Stamblade.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwBGhQCVO44
Stamblade is in need of a buff what??????????????????????????????????????????????????
He killed total noobs in the video. its real at any class
Prove that they was total noobs. The only ones that seem like total noobs. Are those asking for stamblade buffs in my eyes.
FearlessOne_2014 wrote: »Thanatos_inside wrote: »FearlessOne_2014 wrote: »
Stamblade is very weak. As the guys who just recently pulled his out of retirement. Did to experience this weakness in his Stamblade last week. Again this is a guy that's no even that specialized in Stamblade.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwBGhQCVO44
Stamblade is in need of a buff what??????????????????????????????????????????????????
He killed total noobs in the video. its real at any class
Prove that they was total noobs. The only ones that seem like total noobs. Are those asking for stamblade buffs in my eyes.
So what exactly is the issue with NB? I was thinking about it and trying to figure out what the class needs. I think it’s the missing sources of vitality or mending but am not sure. You used to be able to build NBs to be tanky but burst feels up this patch on every class except NB.
thankyourat wrote: »So what exactly is the issue with NB? I was thinking about it and trying to figure out what the class needs. I think it’s the missing sources of vitality or mending but am not sure. You used to be able to build NBs to be tanky but burst feels up this patch on every class except NB.
The issue with nightblade is that majority of Cyrodil plays very tanky builds that can’t be bursted by one person and they get their damage by having multiple players target a individual with multiple ultimates. These kind of builds limit nightblades effectiveness because if the class is designed for bursting solo targets but everyone builds in a way that they can’t be bursted by a solo player then what is nightblade really good for.
The problem though is that stamblade damage is still very threatening to those of us that are playing in damage sets. When I fight a stamblade I have to be very careful so I don’t get bursted. If you buff their damage more I will have no choice but to build a tanky build as well. The better option would be to find the underlying problem which is tank builds in general and nerf them. This will allow stamblades to still function the way they were designed without giving them oppressive damage to be able to burst down a tank and making it to where a player in damage sets can’t compete at all.
What is this lol ok now I encourage you to 1v1 a good player lol 😂FearlessOne_2014 wrote: »
Stamblade is very weak. As the guys who just recently pulled his out of retirement. Did to experience this weakness in his Stamblade last week. Again this is a guy that's no even that specialized in Stamblade.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwBGhQCVO44
Stamblade is in need of a buff what??????????????????????????????????????????????????
I have been playing stamblade since eso release and this is the first time I ever ask for a buff forgive me for getting bored after 30 minutes trying to kill an unkillable hvy stam dk with stupid damage still or be slaughtered by overkill magplar with ridiculous damage.FearlessOne_2014 wrote: »Thanatos_inside wrote: »FearlessOne_2014 wrote: »
Stamblade is very weak. As the guys who just recently pulled his out of retirement. Did to experience this weakness in his Stamblade last week. Again this is a guy that's no even that specialized in Stamblade.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwBGhQCVO44
Stamblade is in need of a buff what??????????????????????????????????????????????????
He killed total noobs in the video. its real at any class
Prove that they was total noobs. The only ones that seem like total noobs. Are those asking for stamblade buffs in my eyes.
FearlessOne_2014 wrote: »thankyourat wrote: »So what exactly is the issue with NB? I was thinking about it and trying to figure out what the class needs. I think it’s the missing sources of vitality or mending but am not sure. You used to be able to build NBs to be tanky but burst feels up this patch on every class except NB.
The issue with nightblade is that majority of Cyrodil plays very tanky builds that can’t be bursted by one person and they get their damage by having multiple players target a individual with multiple ultimates. These kind of builds limit nightblades effectiveness because if the class is designed for bursting solo targets but everyone builds in a way that they can’t be bursted by a solo player then what is nightblade really good for.
The problem though is that stamblade damage is still very threatening to those of us that are playing in damage sets. When I fight a stamblade I have to be very careful so I don’t get bursted. If you buff their damage more I will have no choice but to build a tanky build as well. The better option would be to find the underlying problem which is tank builds in general and nerf them. This will allow stamblades to still function the way they were designed without giving them oppressive damage to be able to burst down a tank and making it to where a player in damage sets can’t compete at all.
I disagree with you.
I personally believe all that needs to be done. Is to take away damage from tank builds and heavy armor. Once that has happen and proper archtypes are reestablished (Tank - Healer - Damage Dealer). The game would be in a much healthier state without buffing Stamblade which already has 2nd to none burst damage.
There is no need to completely make tanking unavailable in PvP. Just make tanks unable to deal competitive damage, to squishy damage dealers.
TL/DR
The issue is that heavy armor set deals relative damage, as medium and light armor sets while sacificing nothing. Not that Stamblade is weak and needs buffs.
Completely agree this would put us on par with templars damage they can’t just outright nuke us if pressure is there.give back SA major fracture
-dk have it with a aoe spamable + dots
-warden have it with a massive aoe burst
-templar have it with a delayed damage debuff
revert relentless focus to 15%
incap stun in 70 ult, no silence no defile
give nightblade source prebuff major brutality / sorcery, put it in siphoning strikes or something
give back SA major fracture
-dk have it with a aoe spamable + dots
-warden have it with a massive aoe burst
-templar have it with a delayed damage debuff
revert relentless focus to 15%
incap stun in 70 ult, no silence no defile
give nightblade source prebuff major brutality / sorcery, put it in siphoning strikes or something
Yeah yeah your right sorry we should totally keep it as run a templar or get rekt my bad.FearlessOne_2014 wrote: »give back SA major fracture
-dk have it with a aoe spamable + dots
-warden have it with a massive aoe burst
-templar have it with a delayed damage debuff
revert relentless focus to 15%
incap stun in 70 ult, no silence no defile
give nightblade source prebuff major brutality / sorcery, put it in siphoning strikes or something
Yes ZOS please do this. So it becomes run a Nightblade or get rekt again. Have people not had a enough of Nightblades being completely overpowered for what was it 18 months.
Yes ZOS please make my already powerful Stamblade either more broken just cause.
FearlessOne_2014 wrote: »give back SA major fracture
-dk have it with a aoe spamable + dots
-warden have it with a massive aoe burst
-templar have it with a delayed damage debuff
revert relentless focus to 15%
incap stun in 70 ult, no silence no defile
give nightblade source prebuff major brutality / sorcery, put it in siphoning strikes or something
Yes ZOS please do this. So it becomes run a Nightblade or get rekt again. Have people not had a enough of Nightblades being completely overpowered for what was it 18 months.
Yes ZOS please make my already powerful Stamblade either more broken just cause.
FearlessOne_2014 wrote: »
Stamblade is very weak. As the guys who just recently pulled his out of retirement. Did to experience this weakness in his Stamblade last week. Again this is a guy that's no even that specialized in Stamblade.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwBGhQCVO44
Stamblade is in need of a buff what??????????????????????????????????????????????????