I still think there should be an in-game penalty or limitation to kicking another player. No one can force people to be nice, but with a little application of negative re-enforcement, they can at least be trained to fake being nice.

SidraWillowsky wrote: »

lordrichter wrote: »

TheValkyn wrote: »

They kicked you for being unprepared for dailies? Why should they wait on you?

Mainly to be nice... Sort of the point of the thread this person started. Right?

I wouldn't have voted to kick the dude personally but I understand why they did.... Why queue up for a pledge without picking up the pledges?

lordrichter wrote: »

TheValkyn wrote: »

They kicked you for being unprepared for dailies? Why should they wait on you?

@lordrichter, that's it, exactly. I can understand that they might want to get going, but what's two minutes to anyone, when I tried to give them a headsup that, "Hey, sorry, I was unprepared for getting this dungeon. I'll go and quickly grab the pledge."

To then go and votekick that player is just a sign of unpleasant impatience and toxicity.

@SidraWillowsky The thing is, I didn't queue for the pledge, I queued for a random daily, and happened to get a pledge. Since I had yesterday's pledges, I tried to give them a headsup, but apparently, trying to be nice and inform them instead of just leaving them in the dark is grounds to kick a player from the group, these days...

Kingslayer513 wrote: »

>roleplayer
>completely unprepared
You had it coming

ikr. Cus having 1.5k CP and several years of playing under your belt means nothing when it comes out that the player roleplays.

ErinM31 wrote: »

@BlissfulDelusions Actually, I think that the community as a whole is quite friendly and helpful. It does seem a bit harsh to kick for that but others posting here to have a very valid point that it was inconsiderate of you to queue for something you were not prepared for. Personally, I don’t think it was worth posting about. You’ll be ready next time, yes?

@ErinM31 If you'll read my previous posts, you'll see exactly why I wasn't prepared for that particular dungeon.

I usually find the community awesome on many many occasions - the most recent when I accidentally stumble into Moon hunter (for the first time ever) on my little lvl 45 PvP healer epically patient group of peeps!

DLM wrote: »

BlissfulDelusions wrote: »

ErinM31 wrote: »

@BlissfulDelusions Actually, I think that the community as a whole is quite friendly and helpful. It does seem a bit harsh to kick for that but others posting here to have a very valid point that it was inconsiderate of you to queue for something you were not prepared for. Personally, I don’t think it was worth posting about. You’ll be ready next time, yes?

@ErinM31 If you'll read my previous posts, you'll see exactly why I wasn't prepared for that particular dungeon.

So your excuse is that you queued up for random thinking that if you were ending in yesterday's pledges, all the better. It turned out it was today's pledges. So we're back to what we are all saying, you came unprepared for the pledges of this day. And on top of that, instead of accepting that you rolled (hoping to get past day's pledges), lost and move on, you asked people to wait for you. I kind of miss where this is considerate from you...

I wouldn't have kicked for this either, but it really gets on my nerves every time someone starts a PUG with "sorry, grabbing the pledge".

No, I queued up for a random with my old pledges active in the case that I might get them. When it turned out I had the wrong pledge, I gave a headsup to them to make sure they were aware I was going to grab the pledge, instead of leaving them in the dark with silence.

In turn, they opted to kick me, wasting both my time and theirs, as they had to then requeue and wait for another tank to show up, while I had to wait 15 minutes for the cooldown to wear off.

Face it, mate, most other players, had they queued for a random and gotten the pledge, would have asked for a few minutes to grab it. I understand how you, others, and even yours truly might find it mildly infuriating, but does it warrant a KICK?

No, you said it yourself that it doesn't.

AltmerGF wrote: »

...wouldn't the time it takes them to let him get the pledge be less than the time it takes them to find a new player? Lmao

My point exactly :P

And PvPers are the toxic ones. Smh

BlissfulDelusions wrote: »

ErinM31 wrote: »

@BlissfulDelusions Actually, I think that the community as a whole is quite friendly and helpful. It does seem a bit harsh to kick for that but others posting here to have a very valid point that it was inconsiderate of you to queue for something you were not prepared for. Personally, I don’t think it was worth posting about. You’ll be ready next time, yes?

@ErinM31 If you'll read my previous posts, you'll see exactly why I wasn't prepared for that particular dungeon.

In this thread? I looked back and couldn’t find anything. Oh, I see in your later posts... I’m a bit confused but I’ve never done these myself and was responding purely on the principle of the thing.

If most people are ready to start when they queue, then it still seems less considerate to queue without being prepared (or in this case, most likely to be unprepared?). If it doesn’t take long to grab this, then it shouldn’t have been a big deal to wait since you have them a heads up and kicking does seem harsh, but not so bad as to post about. Just from my perspective, from PUGging in other games, seems they were less considerate than what I would hope would be normal (assuming grabbing what you needed is a quick thing) but not worth more than a moments frustration on your part and perhaps being glad to not run with impatient people and still not crossing the line to outright wrong behavior, IMHO.