The ESO community is kind, patient and welcoming.

Elsonso

Agenericname wrote: »

BlissfulDelusions wrote: »

DLM wrote: »

BlissfulDelusions wrote: »

TheValkyn wrote: »

lordrichter wrote: »

TheValkyn wrote: »

They kicked you for being unprepared for dailies? Why should they wait on you?

Mainly to be nice... Sort of the point of the thread this person started. Right?

Wouldn't queuing up and not forcing people to wait on you be the "nice" thing to do? It seems that the person that queued up unprepared is 100% at fault here.

I agree with that! But when people make mistakes, do you believe they should be crucified?

I only asked for a short while to grab the pledge. I think that it's rather callous to outright kick them when they have the manners and politeness to give them a headsup.

What does it have to do with crucifixion?! It is not like you can't queue up anymore for the day...

Hopefully you learned from your mistake and next time you enter dungeon finder, that's with today's pledges.

Calling it a crucifixion is what we call an exageration, or hyperbole. It is meant to make a point that which I'm not entirely sure you understood...

Hopefully, people will also be a little more patient in the future. I don't believe I made a grand mistake, as it was a matter of a minute, or maybe two, so I will continue my practice of keeping the old pledges saved, in case I get them when I queue for a random dungeon for the XP.

@lordrichter
Yes, it appears that they did. They knew it was a mistake, but they mistook the magnitude of it because they're assigning their own value to another's time. They go on to say how they will continue. It's an indefensible practice.

Kicking may or may not have been the best solution. I don't blame the group, but I wouldn't have kicked them. As it has been brought up, it's only a matter of minutes, right? So there should be no issue with us starting without the tank. If they see a blue portal, it took too long.

No.... Did the people who KICKED him know that. They are possibly the "villain" here. They are the ones with the power to decide how to respond to this. How we deal with people who make mistakes and inconvenience us says more about US than it does about THEM.

Aznarb

mairwen85 wrote: »

Aznarb wrote: »

TheValkyn wrote: »

lordrichter wrote: »

TheValkyn wrote: »

They kicked you for being unprepared for dailies? Why should they wait on you?

Mainly to be nice... Sort of the point of the thread this person started. Right?

Wouldn't queuing up and not forcing people to wait on you be the "nice" thing to do? It seems that the person that queued up unprepared is 100% at fault here.

This.
It's clearly OP fault.
Don't queue if you're not prepared, so you don't wast other people's time.
You know, common sens.
The only one who is not "nice" in this situation is the OP.
Work on yourself before blaming other.

Same common sens as not queued for DLC vet if you can't achieve requirement, no matter the role.
The kind of common sens people on this game seem to lake.

In reality an ocean.

Yeah was not sure about it tbh !
Lack maybe ? Damn can't remember this simple word u_u
Guess I'm good to go for google translate !

mairwen85

Personally I wouldn't run dungeons without having picked up pledges first.

Aznarb wrote: »

mairwen85 wrote: »

Aznarb wrote: »

TheValkyn wrote: »

lordrichter wrote: »

TheValkyn wrote: »

They kicked you for being unprepared for dailies? Why should they wait on you?

Mainly to be nice... Sort of the point of the thread this person started. Right?

Wouldn't queuing up and not forcing people to wait on you be the "nice" thing to do? It seems that the person that queued up unprepared is 100% at fault here.

This.
It's clearly OP fault.
Don't queue if you're not prepared, so you don't wast other people's time.
You know, common sens.
The only one who is not "nice" in this situation is the OP.
Work on yourself before blaming other.

Same common sens as not queued for DLC vet if you can't achieve requirement, no matter the role.
The kind of common sens people on this game seem to lake.

In reality an ocean.

Yeah was not sure about it tbh !
Lack maybe ? Damn can't remember this simple word u_u
Guess I'm good to go for google translate !

No. I liked it.. Gave the comment dimension.

GreenhaloX

Well, it's unfortunate that there are plenty of outright arses playing the game. You take it with a grain of salt. There are cool people as well. However, you just don't know what kind of people you run into when grouping randomly and such. Social venue at its best.

anitajoneb17_ESO

lordrichter wrote: »

Agenericname wrote: »

This isn't the case of a new player asking someone to wait around so that they can finish a quest. It isn't the case of a player not knowing the mechanics and asking for help. Its not the case of a new player not understanding how this works or why it isn't considerate. It's the case a high level player that pushed a burden on their team and did so knowingly. They admitted that they understood this and said that they would continue. Quite frankly it is inconsiderate.

... but did they know that?

Yes (CP).

Elsonso

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

lordrichter wrote: »

Agenericname wrote: »

This isn't the case of a new player asking someone to wait around so that they can finish a quest. It isn't the case of a player not knowing the mechanics and asking for help. Its not the case of a new player not understanding how this works or why it isn't considerate. It's the case a high level player that pushed a burden on their team and did so knowingly. They admitted that they understood this and said that they would continue. Quite frankly it is inconsiderate.

... but did they know that?

Yes (CP).

Good point.

Cerotonin

I do think this a good community. I’ve come across some miserable people that think it’s amazing to be a jerk. I understand people want to sleep better at night by stomping on others, but it’s incredibly easy to be nice too.

Agenericname

@lordrichter
I apparently misunderstood the "they" you were referring to. Pronouns.

CP is good indication. It's not perfect, but I think it's more reasonable to assume that a player at or above CP cap understands how pledges work than i do to assume that 3 seemingly random players will accept me wasting their time in a forgiving manner.

JusticeForJilarga

Everyone is taking this out of context. This isn't a discussion about a person's true character. OP forget to pick up pledges and instead of taking responsibility has decided to blame their teammates for their own forgetfulness. This one thinks this really paints a picture of who OP is. This One doesn't mind helping out new players but given that OP is CP they should have known better. If This One forgets pledge This One just does it again later. This One tries to be considerate of teammates.

jlboozer

I always decline kicking other players when people initiate a vote kick, especially when the dungeon literally just started.

jazsper77

Lolz everyone blaming the OP , some of you in here are just a treat. I actually know who some of the players in this thread are and find it funny they have to rush so much do to time. But they stand on the walls in Craglorn for hrs doing nothing but brag and link their Golded Gear. Lmfao.

TheUrbanWizard

Oh I’ve heard “end gamers” who can’t even complete vMA wax lyrical about scores and speed runs and following mechanics, and had to near enough sit on my mute button to avoid prolly getting a) kicked from guild and/or b) getting social ban.

The same applies in pvp groups aswell, it’s just hilarious and I just drop group.

TLDR I guess don’t be personally offended (YOU DONT KNOW THEM), play with with friends, and remember it’s only a game lol

Araneae6537

I haven’t continued to follow this thread but felt like sharing a counterpoint from my experience this weekend: I queued for a random dungeon and told the group that I was new (only my second time ever) and one of the members especially was very helpful in pointing out chests and other loot, and rightly insisted we kick the fake tank (although I was reluctant to judge anyone when I am so new myself). Then, of all things, I disconnected! It took a few tries before I was able to reconnect, probably several minutes, and I would not have blamed the group if they’d kicked me or completed it without me and yet they were waiting for me at the final boss!

gepe87

Rejoice. You have a life and you dont need a game to boost your ego.

Giraffon

ErinM31 wrote: »

I haven’t continued to follow this thread but felt like sharing a counterpoint from my experience this weekend: I queued for a random dungeon and told the group that I was new (only my second time ever) and one of the members especially was very helpful in pointing out chests and other loot, and rightly insisted we kick the fake tank (although I was reluctant to judge anyone when I am so new myself). Then, of all things, I disconnected! It took a few tries before I was able to reconnect, probably several minutes, and I would not have blamed the group if they’d kicked me or completed it without me and yet they were waiting for me at the final boss!

This nicely ties into the discussion. Even though we all have different "temperatures" when it comes to booting players for annoying behaviors, in my experience, most players WILL wait for someone that's had a DC. That is something the player has no control over. So if you come in and then expect me to wait you while you do something for yourself, I'm going to boil over, but if you disconnect, then I will patiently wait for your return for at least a few minutes.