Expressing an opinion should not be bannable.

WildWilbur wrote: »

Hmm, maybe pointless poll makers should be banned too?

satanio wrote: »

Expressing an opinion should not be bannable.

I find that patiently explain the Learn2Play response that would help then is a lot more effective in terms of convincing the Devs your class doesnt actually need to be nerfed. Plus, it helps players who were dealing with that same problem to L2Play, making then less likely to ask for nerfs.

Because your suggestion only works if 100% of "nerf this class" threads are unjustified.

Just because you think they are 100% unjustified doesn't make it so. This is a forum. You think its a L2Play issue, then say so, and for best effect, explain and prove it.

Otherwise, this is just "ban anyone who disagrees with me" under another guise.


Example: I'm following what's essentially a "Nerf templar" thread over the new Eclipse because I'm hoping to glean some L2Play tips.

Nerf Pointless Polls

The issue with users calling for nerfs is that it is often because they find it difficult to counter a certain skill that keeps appearing on their death recap..... It’s not because they objectively seek balance.... it’s cause they don’t want to keep getting mullered....

Starlock wrote: »

satanio wrote: »

Expressing an opinion should not be bannable.

No kidding.

IMO, nerf seekers should have their own game developed for them, because virtually all of these requests come from the PvP side of the game. Leave the rest of ESO alone and go have your own game where the endless complaining about "but I died to such and such" wrecks the structure of the game.

Of course they come from the PVP side of things.

PVEers are generally happy to have stronger teammates, except for the ones dedicated to a particular class who's currently being excluded from trial slota by the meta, because that make PVE content easier. Outside of competing for BIS or chasing leaderboard positions, PVEers very rarely compete which each other, so its not a problem for PVE players if one class is stronger than the others.

PvPers, on the other hand, compete on a daily basis. For them, one class being stronger isnt a benefit.


In other words, both PVE and PVP benefit from an even playing field...but PVEers are less likely to care when one class is outperforming the others because that makes their PVE content easier. (Edited: except for those PVEers disappointed that their class isnt the favored class.)

They may be annoying, but annoying paying customers have a right to be heard on the forums of a product they've paid for.

That said, I wish ZOS would make the forum ignore list larger.

Not exactly the topic, but players who submit "set up" or "perfect storm" death recaps, set up or doctored (photoshop or other) screenshots, or other phony or inflated "evidence" that something is OP to further a nerf campaign in a video game are weak, silly human beings. This kind of thing goes on more and more in games I've played over the years, and if it could be proven, it should be a perma ban. No way to prove it though.

My hunch is that lots of this goes on in this game. Just take off armor, don't buff, get debuffed, walk into whatever you want nerfed and then collect up recaps until you get a good one to post on forums. For this reason, no recaps should -ever- be considered evidence of anything, and if you think that's a lot of trouble to go to in a video game, just launch youtube and look at all the "Star Trek Navigation Panel" combat add-ons (and macros in the background) that are completely immersion-spoiling people use.

Yes it’s incredibly annoying because that nerf seeker is probably one of those 20 players chasing down a solo player with no impenetrable or just pick up random gear from quests. Maybe no banned but have there pointless post taken down.