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Should Nerf Seekers be banned
Nordic__Knights
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When people make Post in regards to nerfing another class that they may or may not play in order to make a class they do play more enjoyable should they be banned 4 harmful acts towards other classes
Should Nerf Seekers be banned 108 votes
yes
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No
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If it is shown they are asking for the Nerf only to benefit a different class
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WildWilbur✭✭✭✭Hmm, maybe pointless poll makers should be banned too?"Call me a killjoy, but I think that because this is not to my taste, no one else should be able to enjoy it." Marge Simpson31
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Nordic__Knights✭✭✭✭✭
✭WildWilbur wrote: »Hmm, maybe pointless poll makers should be banned too?
How's it pointless when it all the Nerfs that are being called for for every other class that is destroying a game that others enjoyEdited by Nordic__Knights on August 30, 2019 9:17AM2 -
Hapexamendios✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭NoWildWilbur wrote: »Hmm, maybe pointless poll makers should be banned too?Expressing an opinion should not be bannable.
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Nordic__Knights✭✭✭✭✭
✭Don't blame players on something that is entirely ZOS' responsibility.
Yeah but when the players are viciously attacking a different class as well as supporting it with fictitious tooltips as we seen with Vigor this patch it misleads the development team as what is really needed with in the game to make it right for everyone1 -
Nordic__Knights✭✭✭✭✭
✭Expressing an opinion should not be bannable.
Expressing themselves one thing always asking for everything to be nerfed in the game because they don't want to learn how to play and defend against something and learn counters against something just run to the forms and cry please change this for me because it's hurting me seems like it becomes more entitlement then a expressionEdited by Nordic__Knights on August 30, 2019 9:28AM1 -
Nordic__Knights✭✭✭✭✭
✭Not if it's someone demanding a sorc nerf
I find that any player who asks for a Nerf to another class to try to understand their own class has no concept of a game to begin with and should just delete it because the way you would go about it is ask for your class to be buffed in a measure that helps you counter whatever you find the other class has that you cannot seem to get around0 -
VaranisArano✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I find that patiently explain the Learn2Play response that would help then is a lot more effective in terms of convincing the Devs your class doesnt actually need to be nerfed. Plus, it helps players who were dealing with that same problem to L2Play, making then less likely to ask for nerfs.
Because your suggestion only works if 100% of "nerf this class" threads are unjustified.
Just because you think they are 100% unjustified doesn't make it so. This is a forum. You think its a L2Play issue, then say so, and for best effect, explain and prove it.
Otherwise, this is just "ban anyone who disagrees with me" under another guise.
Example: I'm following what's essentially a "Nerf templar" thread over the new Eclipse because I'm hoping to glean some L2Play tips.1 -
bmnoble✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭NoJust because someone is a loudmouth is no reason for them to be banned.
If they have a valid point in their post with some basic evidence, not expecting to see graphs and pie charts on the forums. Then they have a right to be heard, sharing view points is the reason a forum exists not just conforming to one view point.
If they are going for example: Sorc should be nerfed because they hate the Sorc class and just go off on a rant filled with censored words and no evidence, then the discussion should be closed as a waste of everyone's time.
But banned no.1 -
BomblePants✭✭✭✭✭
✭The issue with users calling for nerfs is that it is often because they find it difficult to counter a certain skill that keeps appearing on their death recap..... It’s not because they objectively seek balance.... it’s cause they don’t want to keep getting mullered....0 -
TequilaFire✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭NoI do believe the mods should go back to the policy of moving the PvP related threads to the PvP section more aggressively.3 -
Starlock✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭NoExpressing an opinion should not be bannable.
No kidding.
IMO, nerf seekers should have their own game developed for them, because virtually all of these requests come from the PvP side of the game. Leave the rest of ESO alone and go have your own game where the endless complaining about "but I died to such and such" wrecks the structure of the game.0 -
Sandman929✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Even if the responses are an overwhelming "Yes", do you really think ZOS is going to ban people for doing the thing that just grinds your gears?0 -
VaranisArano✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Expressing an opinion should not be bannable.
No kidding.
IMO, nerf seekers should have their own game developed for them, because virtually all of these requests come from the PvP side of the game. Leave the rest of ESO alone and go have your own game where the endless complaining about "but I died to such and such" wrecks the structure of the game.
Of course they come from the PVP side of things.
PVEers are generally happy to have stronger teammates, except for the ones dedicated to a particular class who's currently being excluded from trial slota by the meta, because that make PVE content easier. Outside of competing for BIS or chasing leaderboard positions, PVEers very rarely compete which each other, so its not a problem for PVE players if one class is stronger than the others.
PvPers, on the other hand, compete on a daily basis. For them, one class being stronger isnt a benefit.
In other words, both PVE and PVP benefit from an even playing field...but PVEers are less likely to care when one class is outperforming the others because that makes their PVE content easier. (Edited: except for those PVEers disappointed that their class isnt the favored class.)Edited by VaranisArano on August 30, 2019 2:32PM2 -
karekiz✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭NoNo.
Sometimes nerfs are needed.
Now if your question is should PvE and PvP be balanced separately, then the obvious answer is yes.Edited by karekiz on August 30, 2019 2:27PM1 -
jainiadral✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭NoThey may be annoying, but annoying paying customers have a right to be heard on the forums of a product they've paid for.
That said, I wish ZOS would make the forum ignore list larger.Edited by jainiadral on August 30, 2019 2:42PM1 -
brandonv516✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭NoStupid post.
This forum is for open discussion. You won't always like the topics but you're going to have to deal with it.
And there's something to be said about multiple threads asking for the same thing. Sometimes nerfs are necessary.1 -
buttaface✭✭✭✭✭yesNot exactly the topic, but players who submit "set up" or "perfect storm" death recaps, set up or doctored (photoshop or other) screenshots, or other phony or inflated "evidence" that something is OP to further a nerf campaign in a video game are weak, silly human beings. This kind of thing goes on more and more in games I've played over the years, and if it could be proven, it should be a perma ban. No way to prove it though.
My hunch is that lots of this goes on in this game. Just take off armor, don't buff, get debuffed, walk into whatever you want nerfed and then collect up recaps until you get a good one to post on forums. For this reason, no recaps should -ever- be considered evidence of anything, and if you think that's a lot of trouble to go to in a video game, just launch youtube and look at all the "Star Trek Navigation Panel" combat add-ons (and macros in the background) that are completely immersion-spoiling people use.0 -
buttaface✭✭✭✭✭yesOh, and one other thing, people who wrongfully report other players for "cheating" and the "cheaters" are found to be actually playing fairly within the TOS and doing nothing wrong should earn at least a temporary suspension for the "hack caller."1
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Deathlord92✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yes it’s incredibly annoying because that nerf seeker is probably one of those 20 players chasing down a solo player with no impenetrable or just pick up random gear from quests. Maybe no banned but have there pointless post taken down.0 -
preevious✭✭✭✭✭
✭NoWhy not a death sentence, while you're at it?
Is it annoying? Yes, it is.
Is it a bannable offense? Hell no, it's ridiculous to even suggest this -_-'1
