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PvP August 2019

Skander
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  • kalunte
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    there is a problem of course, dots are doing more dmg than direct attacks after 6seconds!!!!!!!

    i can only see that you survived enough to stand on your feet for quite a long time...

    As for the mage's wrath, if the 1278 dmg is the proc and not the initial hit, well man, you're must be really tanky =)

    (only the dmg from bitting jabs are noticeable, but this is a templar thingy, and we are not allowed to talk about templars...)
  • Kadoin
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    At first glance it looks like you got hit by 3 different players.

    One busty stamina player can do that damage in one to two attacks.

    I'm am not seeing a issue here.

    You don't see an issue? He couldn't run behind a rock and heal up. That's a huge issue! Game-breaking, I'd say!
  • Iskiab
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    It was against at least 4 people. He’s lucky he lasted 6 seconds in this meta.
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  • Abhaya
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    kalunte wrote: »
    there is a problem of course, dots are doing more dmg than direct attacks after 6seconds!!!!!!!

    i can only see that you survived enough to stand on your feet for quite a long time...

    As for the mage's wrath, if the 1278 dmg is the proc and not the initial hit, well man, you're must be really tanky =)

    (only the dmg from bitting jabs are noticeable, but this is a templar thingy, and we are not allowed to talk about templars...)

    It is a problem that it takes 6 seconds for DOTs to do more damage than a direct attack can do in 1? I could hit someone with dizzy swing 6 times without weaving in that time and the recap would have more damage in it than that.
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  • iRaivyne
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    That's only 1 biting jabs cast... 4 hits per one second channel. Looks like you got hit for about 10k in a second after having taken previous DoT damage. It be like that sometimes... Unfortunately the kill feed doesn't tell you how much healing you were doing during that time

    Welcome to the DoT meta!
  • ThePedge
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    DoTs are doing 1k DPS ea. Which may not sound like a lot, bit then add LAs, spammables and you're taking 10k DPS per person. You can't outheal that.

    You likely died in 6 seconds from full health, only had time to use one set of heals and still died. From 1 Jabs and dots.

    Now 3 players jabbing? Ofc you can expect that much damage, but dots are giving too much sustained damage.
    Edited by ThePedge on August 14, 2019 10:42PM
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  • Nerftheforums
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    7k jabs omegalul. You should consider wearing some armour
  • DemonDruaga
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    Well.. I can't really try to even test pvp.
    Theres like 40 mindless zerglings playing 40vs1 small scale with me when I step out of the spawning zone 🤦‍♂️
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  • Skander
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    7k jabs omegalul. You should consider wearing some armour

    it was heavy armor. This game is now easy mode for overbuffed templars with an ulti that lets you ignore resistences

    I saw friends doing 10k executioners with that. In pvp.
    Edited by Skander on August 15, 2019 11:18AM
    I meme, but my memes are so truthful they hurt
    -Elder Nightblades Online
    Want competitive pvp while being outnumbered? Tough luck, the devs clearly said you need to die in those situations
  • Skander
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    Skander wrote: »
    7k jabs omegalul. You should consider wearing some armour

    it was heavy armor. This game is now easy mode for overbuffed templars with an ulti that lets you ignore resistences.

    I saw friends doing 10k executioners with that. In pvp.
    I meme, but my memes are so truthful they hurt
    -Elder Nightblades Online
    Want competitive pvp while being outnumbered? Tough luck, the devs clearly said you need to die in those situations
  • olsborg
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    Trancestor wrote: »
    This game is officially garbage now

    I agree. I tried a few days of pvp after patch, but its all dots all cheese, vma daggers with 3-4 dot skills and thats it. Dot or not, I chose not. Im no longer logging in and I'll wait to do so until the next dlc patch note and see if there is change on the horizon. Laters.
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  • kollege14a5
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    tHiS iS BaLanCeD yOu sHoULdnT bE aBLe To tAnK moRe tHaN oNE uNsKiLLeD pLaYEr
  • Ranger209
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    jaws343 wrote: »
    At first glance it looks like you got hit by 3 different players.

    One busty stamina player can do that damage in one to two attacks.

    I'm am not seeing a issue here.

    Right. 27.2K or so damage over the course of 6 seconds from 3+ players, in a keep no less. A shalks, dawnbreaker, steel tornado combo can do that much damage in 2 seconds from 1 player.

    umm pretty sure soul splitter and entropy tick every 2 seconds so that is actually 12 seconds not 6.
  • Skander
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    tHiS iS BaLanCeD yOu sHoULdnT bE aBLe To tAnK moRe tHaN oNE uNsKiLLeD pLaYEr

    those players where nowhere to be called "skilled"
    I meme, but my memes are so truthful they hurt
    -Elder Nightblades Online
    Want competitive pvp while being outnumbered? Tough luck, the devs clearly said you need to die in those situations
  • technohic
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    Skander wrote: »
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    Wow. That guys jabs would have to have almost a 4k tooltip per hit if we are just going off battle spirit alone as mitigation. I guess it could be crits galore but still. You running any crit resists or physical resists?
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  • Vapirko
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    technohic wrote: »
    Skander wrote: »
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    Wow. That guys jabs would have to have almost a 4k tooltip per hit if we are just going off battle spirit alone as mitigation. I guess it could be crits galore but still. You running any crit resists or physical resists?

    That’s not so difficult. I’ve got like a 3.8k tooltip. Someone told me yesterday I hit them for 17k in jabs lol. Said they were running a glass canon build but I was still surprised. I’ve got a high crit and must have landed every one or something.
  • Skander
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    Pt2
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    -Elder Nightblades Online
    Want competitive pvp while being outnumbered? Tough luck, the devs clearly said you need to die in those situations
  • jaws343
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    Skander wrote: »
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    Pt2

    You do realize that Fetcher Infection has a built in mechanic that intentionally increases it's damage on second cast.
  • Skander
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    jaws343 wrote: »
    Skander wrote: »
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    Pt2

    You do realize that Fetcher Infection has a built in mechanic that intentionally increases it's damage on second cast.

    you do realize that's 2k dps in pvp on a dot that costs maybe 2k magicka?
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    Want competitive pvp while being outnumbered? Tough luck, the devs clearly said you need to die in those situations
  • Abhaya
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    Skander wrote: »
    7k jabs omegalul. You should consider wearing some armour

    it was heavy armor. This game is now easy mode for overbuffed templars with an ulti that lets you ignore resistences

    I saw friends doing 10k executioners with that. In pvp.

    Executioner can hit 10k without the onslaught buff soooo..
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  • jaws343
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    Skander wrote: »
    jaws343 wrote: »
    Skander wrote: »
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    Pt2

    You do realize that Fetcher Infection has a built in mechanic that intentionally increases it's damage on second cast.

    you do realize that's 2k dps in pvp on a dot that costs maybe 2k magicka?

    2K DPS.. because the skill boosts in damage after a second cast. Meaning they cast this twice to get that damage. Or they didn't and you are running awful defensive stats. Because 11K in 5 seconds would be around 22K in 10, meaning this has a 44K tooltip if you are running zero defense.

    And that is all before even pointing out how useless death recaps are to provide feedback for skills balance. Like great, you took that damage. How many debuffs were on you? How many players were actually attacking you? Was the skill right before your death recap a skill that took 2/3rds of your health, since the death recap only shows the last damage ticks. So great, it did 11K damage to you over 5 seconds. But if you took a 10K dizzying swing prior to those last few dot ticks and the executioner, your death recap isn't going to show that. So maybe we should stop treating death recaps like the holy grail of gotcha skill balance.
  • yodased
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    Purge. Wyrd tree.
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  • Skander
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    Abhaya wrote: »
    Skander wrote: »
    7k jabs omegalul. You should consider wearing some armour

    it was heavy armor. This game is now easy mode for overbuffed templars with an ulti that lets you ignore resistences

    I saw friends doing 10k executioners with that. In pvp.

    Executioner can hit 10k without the onslaught buff soooo..

    i'm talking about killing people with a brain and not naked
    I meme, but my memes are so truthful they hurt
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    Want competitive pvp while being outnumbered? Tough luck, the devs clearly said you need to die in those situations
  • technohic
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    Vapirko wrote: »
    technohic wrote: »
    Skander wrote: »
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    Wow. That guys jabs would have to have almost a 4k tooltip per hit if we are just going off battle spirit alone as mitigation. I guess it could be crits galore but still. You running any crit resists or physical resists?

    That’s not so difficult. I’ve got like a 3.8k tooltip. Someone told me yesterday I hit them for 17k in jabs lol. Said they were running a glass canon build but I was still surprised. I’ve got a high crit and must have landed every one or something.

    Yeah, I was just screwing with my stamplar build and my tooltip is pretty close to that before major Fracture and spriggans. I suppose I can see it. And if you get off-balance in there... I just don't want to use toppling now because I need ERs.
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  • BNOC
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    Vapirko wrote: »
    technohic wrote: »
    Skander wrote: »
    aTdk4ds.png

    Wow. That guys jabs would have to have almost a 4k tooltip per hit if we are just going off battle spirit alone as mitigation. I guess it could be crits galore but still. You running any crit resists or physical resists?

    That’s not so difficult. I’ve got like a 3.8k tooltip. Someone told me yesterday I hit them for 17k in jabs lol. Said they were running a glass canon build but I was still surprised. I’ve got a high crit and must have landed every one or something.

    Yeah mine are > 4.5k on an standard-to-average built magplar and when you hit constant crits it's a massive difference in damage.

    OP said this guy was running 2h Ult as well, so he probably crit none of them.
    Edited by BNOC on August 15, 2019 2:57PM
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  • Heimpai
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    jaws343 wrote: »
    At first glance it looks like you got hit by 3 different players.

    One busty stamina player can do that damage in one to two attacks.

    I'm am not seeing a issue here.

    Right. 27.2K or so damage over the course of 6 seconds from 3+ players, in a keep no less. A shalks, dawnbreaker, steel tornado combo can do that much damage in 2 seconds from 1 player.

    I think it’s more of a range thing..those dots are what 28m compared to 6m..i have mag/stam characters so it makes no difference to me
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