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Patch v5.1.5 is a joke

Artanonh
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Dear Zeni team, the title actually says so.

This is not about the newly added content but about the changes you've made to the armor, attacks ect.
You build up a char for a long time laboriously and costly, experimenting with armor and skills until you finally have your char so that he is optimal. Spends a lot of gold to get the armor (just for jewelry) on Legendary.
And then one day Zeni comes along and throws half of everything over the pile. Skills no longer have the effects as before, some armor in the current combination no longer effective or sometimes no longer useful, such as. some monster helmet sets you have worked hard for.
So you have to start all over again.
What is that supposed to do?
You could have fed half of the stuff over the pile of higher CP armor, for example, cp 200, that would have made sense.
But this is just a joke, who now takes over the costs for the conversion of the chars? You certainly not, right?

Instead of taking care of really important things like more guild content, that's what happens.

You have 99% of our guild member just scrambled the game and it is seriously thought about canceling the subscriptions and to change the game because no one is up for it.

Great Zeni made, really great
  • master_vanargand
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    ZoS is haunted by demons.
    Bring someone Constantine.
  • coradaelu
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    Artanonh wrote: »
    Dear Zeni team, the title actually says so.

    This is not about the newly added content but about the changes you've made to the armor, attacks ect.
    You build up a char for a long time laboriously and costly, experimenting with armor and skills until you finally have your char so that he is optimal. Spends a lot of gold to get the armor (just for jewelry) on Legendary.
    And then one day Zeni comes along and throws half of everything over the pile. Skills no longer have the effects as before, some armor in the current combination no longer effective or sometimes no longer useful, such as. some monster helmet sets you have worked hard for.
    So you have to start all over again.
    What is that supposed to do?
    You could have fed half of the stuff over the pile of higher CP armor, for example, cp 200, that would have made sense.
    But this is just a joke, who now takes over the costs for the conversion of the chars? You certainly not, right?

    Instead of taking care of really important things like more guild content, that's what happens.

    You have 99% of our guild member just scrambled the game and it is seriously thought about canceling the subscriptions and to change the game because no one is up for it.

    Great Zeni made, really great

    Relax.. it happens in almost all MMORPGs, ESO is too casual/easy mode to get these sets literally takes me 1 or 3 days to get one viable build when patch arrives... the thing here is the game direction is not good so many bad changes.
  • Lord_Eomer
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    For some players everything is too hard for digestion,

    Adapt and enjoy or you will be missing ESO
    Edited by Lord_Eomer on August 14, 2019 9:27AM
  • Gargath
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    Fully agree - Adapt and Enjoy - that should be goal in any game.

    When you have multiple toons on account you should not bother about changes or some single class underperforming as you have plenty of toons to pick from.

    When they put some freshness into game, change something, we should be rather happy than complain, since in this way they kill the boredom which always appears in game when nothing changes for a longer time. The key changes are vital for survival.
    PC EU (PL): 14 characters. Member of Priests of Hircine Werewolf Guild. In ESO since 06.08.2015. CP930+.
  • MajBludd
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    Sad, but I believe you are correct. @Vapirko
  • ThePlayer
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    Regard to the sets you can leave everything as it was, at least in pve. For skills, you have to change them, for stamina at least one skill has to be changed, for magickas more than one.
    What i give you 100% right, is the lack of new guild quests and any other kind of interesting quests/daily.
  • quadraxis666
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    Great Zeni made, really great

    @everyone all zos bashing posts need to end with this line from now on :D
  • ruengdet2515
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    What is your purpose for this game...best dps score? best player? super hero? always the 1st?...
  • Mayrael
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    PvP wise - Stop playing StReamErS MeTa BuiLds duh, and you will be fine. After this patch I swapped 1 set and 1 skill and I can harvest APs again and still have few very effective non meta setups. When you use the most cheese setup that most people run what do you expect?

    PvE wise - that's why I don't like PvE endgame, run meta or don't bother to even try to get into a trial.
    I am doing my best, but I am not a native speaker, sorry.

  • TankinatorFR
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    Well, you are lucky Mayrael. I don't play meta either, but have been hit hard by every single major update this year.
    Well, not the first year it happen to me, on this game or other MMO. And not the last either, saddly.
    Edited by TankinatorFR on August 14, 2019 12:17PM
  • kathandira
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    Artanonh wrote: »
    Dear Zeni team, the title actually says so.

    This is not about the newly added content but about the changes you've made to the armor, attacks ect.
    You build up a char for a long time laboriously and costly, experimenting with armor and skills until you finally have your char so that he is optimal. Spends a lot of gold to get the armor (just for jewelry) on Legendary.
    And then one day Zeni comes along and throws half of everything over the pile. Skills no longer have the effects as before, some armor in the current combination no longer effective or sometimes no longer useful, such as. some monster helmet sets you have worked hard for.
    So you have to start all over again.
    What is that supposed to do?
    You could have fed half of the stuff over the pile of higher CP armor, for example, cp 200, that would have made sense.
    But this is just a joke, who now takes over the costs for the conversion of the chars? You certainly not, right?

    Instead of taking care of really important things like more guild content, that's what happens.

    You have 99% of our guild member just scrambled the game and it is seriously thought about canceling the subscriptions and to change the game because no one is up for it.

    Great Zeni made, really great

    This is why I stopped being invested in this game in a competitive sense. Constant rebalancing because they can't get it right hurts more than it helps. Now this is game is basically just a social environment for me, rather than a game in which I care about legitimate progress.
    PS4-NA. Breton Templar Healer, Bosmer Stamplar, Breton Magplar, Orsimer StamDK, Dunmer MagDK, Khajiit StamNB, Dunmer MagNB, Argonian Warden Tank, Altmer Magsorc
  • Vapirko
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    Mayrael wrote: »
    PvP wise - Stop playing StReamErS MeTa BuiLds duh, and you will be fine. After this patch I swapped 1 set and 1 skill and I can harvest APs again and still have few very effective non meta setups. When you use the most cheese setup that most people run what do you expect?

    PvE wise - that's why I don't like PvE endgame, run meta or don't bother to even try to get into a trial.

    Few streamers I watch run any “meta” builds, at least not anymore. They either run fairly regular setups or something of their own creation. Personally I was running medium last patch with hulking and NMG on my Stamplar and the ramped up dot damage, ult delays, higher cost of ritual among other things has made an already iffy armor type pretty much a no go. There’s nothing meta about that build. This patch is absolutely catering to lower skill PvPers.
  • JahneeO
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    Man, this happens every update.

    The only thing that changes is who is doing the complaining.
    As someone said above, this stuff only matters when it happens to you.

    Well, it happens to everyone, I'm pretty sure when these changes hit the XboneX, I won't even notice.
    But, then again, I am just a filthy casual who plays this game to have fun.
  • Jeremy
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    Artanonh wrote: »
    Dear Zeni team, the title actually says so.

    This is not about the newly added content but about the changes you've made to the armor, attacks ect.
    You build up a char for a long time laboriously and costly, experimenting with armor and skills until you finally have your char so that he is optimal. Spends a lot of gold to get the armor (just for jewelry) on Legendary.
    And then one day Zeni comes along and throws half of everything over the pile. Skills no longer have the effects as before, some armor in the current combination no longer effective or sometimes no longer useful, such as. some monster helmet sets you have worked hard for.
    So you have to start all over again.
    What is that supposed to do?
    You could have fed half of the stuff over the pile of higher CP armor, for example, cp 200, that would have made sense.
    But this is just a joke, who now takes over the costs for the conversion of the chars? You certainly not, right?

    Instead of taking care of really important things like more guild content, that's what happens.

    You have 99% of our guild member just scrambled the game and it is seriously thought about canceling the subscriptions and to change the game because no one is up for it.

    Great Zeni made, really great

    I do agree with you they need to stabilize the game and stop making these drastic changes every other month. It's becoming excessive. If they want to mix things up they should do this by adding new abilities and skills - not by constantly changing the ones that are already in the game.

    That being said: I believe this patch generally was an improvement on the game. Healers are actually good now, and battlegrounds are no longer mobile black holes of ground attacks swallowing everyone up who goes near. So the debut of this combat team has been a good one in my estimation. I'll cut them some slack initially since they had to address many of the problems that were handed to them from the previous combat team (which was terrible in my opinion). But if this tedious pattern of nerf/buff continues on into the future even under this new combat team I will agree with you.
  • Sergg007
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    Artanonh wrote: »
    Great Zeni made, really great

    Do you really think they care, we're all here just food.

  • KageNin
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    Combat team is clueless, instead of focusing on 1 aspect of the combat at a time they, say they do audit but change everything else in the meantime, to many variables to test to little time , also they have no plan instead it's typical change skill, adjust,rework etc no direction whatsoever.
    How difficult is it to have a schedule:
    Patch 1- DoTs
    Patch 2 - Healing
    Patch 3 - Ultimates
    And so on and so forth.
    Edited by KageNin on August 14, 2019 5:16PM
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