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https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/684716

You going to do something about all the Bots?

  • Rantog
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    There's nothing wrong with farming a boss and nothing wrong with macro's...it's part of the game. Node botting is the real issue. And if you can get a hit off on a boss you're using the wrong ability, use an instant cast like poison arrow and you'll get it every time.

    Go try to get the Centurion in Dashaan on a Templar of the same level as the boss when the bots are there. Seriously, I want to see someone do it and get credit. I stood there for about 45 minutes last night discussing the problem, and listening to player after player complain that they couldn't get credit because the mob was Dead before they could land a hit, or that they had time for 1 hit which wasn't enough to get credit.
  • blauschwinge
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    Smalltalk in the open world is a bit difficult as you have to freeze the mouse all the time with the extra button and move it to the chat window to write something. This makes it a bit tedious and slow to utter anything at all, because 80% of people have already run away before you can type in something like "Hi" or "Thanks" which at one point will make you stop doing it.

    People at Boss locations are mostly players, either farming a boss for the items OR just those who want to loot at least once (which is sometimes hard, as you wont get loot if the boss dies too fast and your damage wasnt significant enough to earn a looting right, so you have to stick around a few minutes.

    I doubt theres any botting yet, otherwise you wouldnt get the gold seller guild invites and mails in which they ask you to sell them gold (they could just bot it up if it was already possibe)
  • Rantog
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    I doubt theres any botting yet
    You must have missed the official statement that they have already banned Thousands for it.

    And that there are 3 major game hack/bot software distributors already selling the Bot scripts for ESO.

    And the endless stream of videos of the Teleport hack harvester bots running..

    Or the further videos of those same tele hack harvesters, bots, and other script users Bragging about their use of these things and having Not been banned yet.


    I Wish it was just gold spammers... but I would still want them gone too ;)
  • Desdemonte
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    Just need to make bosses non- interactable once you kill them or have it only give white loot like any other mob for those people who are helping a person kill it who is unable to on their own.
  • Savinder
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    I saw some bots earlier in Auridon: there were 2 groups of 4, clustered together in a mass, running back and forth an hallway in a dungeon, stopping only to mob respawning enemies and then start running back and forth again, while being completely unresponsive to any sort of query.
    I even got a picture of one of those two groups! :D
    KQeon9Z.jpg

    They were constantly clustered together, so I might have reported one twice or simply missed one or two.
    Var var var
  • p.hurst1b16_ESO
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    I checked out players camping one boss in a stonefalls dungeon, the Softloam one. It was not all players. It was ONE player and a load of Covenant Guards.

    What on earth was going on ? The boss was not surviving for more than 5 seconds.
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  • krix_ost
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    I doubt theres any botting yet....

    You cannot be serious?

    Two prime examples..
    1) Google: Elder Scrolls Online Bot
    You will see that there is a site selling automation scripts to Grind/Harvest...etc.

    2) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJ0jFeUXn9U
    ESO: Botting Players
    You can see that there are 2...perhaps 3 players moving and trying to complete their quests or get their damage enough to qualify for loot. All the others are perfectly centered around the boss. Happens this way in a lot of public dungeons.

    ESO can either Instance the dungeons or force the 'Phasing' is such a way to have to leave the dungeon then return to get another boss spawn. Instancing means finding groups to do the dungeon.....leaving and returning could be botted as well but at least would force the botters to take time to leave and return all the way in again. Very much complicating their scripts.

    Only 1 method to stop all botting scripts. NO ADDONS period. Multiboxing is rough with ESO because of No Follow and the quirky combat.

    ESO needs to lock this down....simple as 1 update to disallow client based stuff.

    Perhaps pissing off a whole new group of players. XD
    Edited by krix_ost on April 13, 2014 6:14PM
  • Chomppa
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    There are bots in this game , just saw 6 of them at the bank in Glenumbra by the closet near the bag seller jumping constantly . Some of them would auto follow my clanfear pet in Silium , funny at the same time extremely annoying since you can't shake them off .
    :):D:(;):\:o:s:p:'(:|B):#o:)<3 (*) >:)
  • Jadeviper1974
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    I saw my first ever resource collection bot last night the name was "ahdfjk" and "she" was in the starting clothing, with the starting weapon. "She" would collect a node and then..'BLINK' and she was at the next node....'blink'...next node. I watched the bot for several minutes and tried to get "her" to respond but "she" just kept teleporting from node to node collecting resources and moving on.

    I did report the incident, but there was no way to include the screenies that I took but I will post a couple below. I don't know how to record video of my game, now I wish I did.

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  • Savinder
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    And here's another screenie.
    zUDea4X.jpg

    Any chance we could get a GM to visit the dungeon of Ondil in Auridon?
    There's at least 10 bots that you can ban there.
    Var var var
  • fambaab16_ESO
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    Good thing is those bots will never be able to do group dungeons where the real loot is, or even make it into public veteran dungeons which are pretty deadly sometimes.
    ESO is way less important over loot since you can craft almost anything.
    Some people might want full Sets, but I am pretty sure theres alot of crafting stations out there where you can craft most of the good sets, and choose the traits yourself aswell.
    Just outlevel those bots.

    And in order for them to even get into the veteran area they'll have to do the main quest which can only be soloed. Then again the pvp reward boxes also hold good items even setitems which can be upgraded to rare+epic ones.

    Only thing I would worry about when they pick all flowers for alchemy, the rest you can get much faster from mobdrops by deconstructing, even runes.
  • AlliN
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    Three days in a row I've found TELEPORT hacked bots, dissapearing and reappearing near nodes. I tried to pick up a herb, then the guy appeared next to me, but I had the node oppened, so he couldn't loot it. When I closed it, he vanised and appeared 50 meters away on a mining node, then looted it, and appeared opposite side on a rune node.

    Seriously, this has to be sorted out
  • Baxter2064
    Maybe we could get Zenimax to teleport the bots to Cyrodiil ... right into the middle of a siege ...
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  • p.hurst1b16_ESO
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    They need to buy the bot themsleves and then detect the code on entry and delete the character permanently and warn the account that after X number of botting infractions the account will be banned.

    Alos remove all automation from the LUA. Let us have the feature addons but nothing that automates any action whatsoever.
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  • pied_penguin
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    I saw my first ever resource collection bot last night the name was "ahdfjk" and "she" was in the starting clothing, with the starting weapon. "She" would collect a node and then..'BLINK' and she was at the next node....'blink'...next node. I watched the bot for several minutes and tried to get "her" to respond but "she" just kept teleporting from node to node collecting resources and moving on.

    I did report the incident, but there was no way to include the screenies that I took but I will post a couple below. I don't know how to record video of my game, now I wish I did.

    I saw the same thing (different "player" name) in that very spot. I tried to get a screenshot, but they disappeared too fast from node to node. Yesterday, I also ran into a bunch of invisible harvesters where I would get to some node, click "E" to harvest, only to be blocked out and hearing some invisible person grunting away with a pick clanking and then the node disappears. Haven't run into boss farmers, yet. On the couple of occasions where my kill was scooped, I still got credit, and loot.
  • PhenomMasaki
    Between the Boss camping bots, the gathering bots and the critical bugs, I'm just not subbing.

    I'll keep an eye on the games progress and return when I can play more than a day or two without loosing my bank slots, inventory, gold and well you get the point.
  • bwilson.homeb16_ESO
    Hello, all! As stated in our Community Code of Conduct, we do not allow posts or threads that are created for the purpose of “naming-and-shaming” other community member(s). “Naming-and-shaming” is the act of creating a post to call out an individual or group by name, and making them the subject of public accusation, ridicule and/or shaming. Generally, naming-and-shaming involves an in-game situation and/or Terms of Service violation, which the ESO Community Team is unable to assist with.

    Thank you for your diligence in reporting this to us, but if you genuinely believe someone has violated our Terms of Service, we ask that players please report them in-game via the support interface (/help) rather than post it on the official ESO community forums. Thank you!

    This is satire, right?

    Go into any main town.
    You'll be spammed with guild invites from gold tellers. Zone chat will be filled with gold selling spam.

    Go into any low level dungeon (I'm assuming it's the same higher up too) 4-8 people with random characters for names, very obviously running a script every time the boss spawns. Grouped too.

    Report them via the support interface? Seriously? This isn't about *a* single character who may or may not be botting, it's about the POLICY of dealing with bots, and the apparent absolute lack of action in tackling the issue as a whole.

    Obviously automated strategies will take longer to implement, but why not have a room full of minimum-wage interns (or hell, outsource the job overseas) logging into dungeon instances and towns and physically removing the offenders and all associated account. For the income the game generates over the first month (where everyone buys the game and then pays their first subscription) it's a tiny fraction to enable them to walk through town without being deluged with goldselling spam, or actually (god forbid) kill the boss of a dungeon they fought though in a level appropriate manner.


    I can appreciate you're just following a set of rules on what's allowed and what's not allowed on here (partly because of legal issues), but when the issue is seemingly being ignored other than to tell us what we're not allowed to post, it doesn't inspire confidence.


  • Zershar_Vemod
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    OP, these are mainly other players, not bots. It's VERY common if not something like 2/3 dungeons will have players farming a boss.
    Edited by Zershar_Vemod on April 14, 2014 1:47PM
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  • Swampster
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    OP, these are mainly other players, not bots. It's VERY common if not something like 2/3 dungeons will have players farming a boss.

    Sounds legit!? >:)
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  • bwilson.homeb16_ESO
    @zershar_vemod, this is not a few random players farming bosses. This is automated scripted botting with no effort being made to hide that fact. They don't even bother naming their characters, instead just mashing in a random set of letters.
  • Jadeviper1974
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    They need to buy the bot themsleves and then detect the code on entry and delete the character permanently and warn the account that after X number of botting infractions the account will be banned.

    Alos remove all automation from the LUA. Let us have the feature addons but nothing that automates any action whatsoever.

    I say ban them on the first offense, to heck with waiting and warnings, they got a warning in the TOS.
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  • Jadeviper1974
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    squicker wrote: »
    Rantog wrote: »
    I find it interesting that several are trying so hard to argue that these are Real players..
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    I think that's because most people believe in innocent until proven guilty.

    I can only comment on what I have witnessed and indeed tried myself; joining a group of players farming a boss in a public dungeon.

    If you feel you have seen something different then why not record it and give to Zenimax?

    Or they are the ones using the bots.
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  • steveb16_ESO46
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    Go into any main town.
    You'll be spammed with guild invites from gold tellers. Zone chat will be filled with gold selling spam.

    Go into any low level dungeon (I'm assuming it's the same higher up too) 4-8 people with random characters for names, very obviously running a script every time the boss spawns. Grouped too.

    Report them via the support interface? Seriously? This isn't about *a* single character who may or may not be botting, it's about the POLICY of dealing with bots, and the apparent absolute lack of action in tackling the issue as a whole

    The whole gold-seller experience for me is many times worse than it was with Neverwinter launch. I've never seen anything as bad as this - and no -before anyone says - I don't care about 'well, you must never have played X...'. I'm not playing X. I'm playing ESO and paying handsomely.

    What I do care about is spam mails, spam notifications and spam guild invites.

    And the endless lines of **********Gold******** crap in Chat.

  • Jadeviper1974
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    There's a lot of farming going on, but I don't think it's bots. I don't believe a bot is available for ESO yet, for one thing. There are gold sales going on, so I think chances are it's people in an office somewhere, uh, farming.

    There are bots available for every game and they are usually available before the game is even released. If you believe anything other than that then I would invite you to return to the real world with the rest of us.
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  • Etchesketch
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    Baxter2064 wrote: »
    Maybe we could get Zenimax to teleport the bots to Cyrodiil ... right into the middle of a siege ...


    Asheron's Call gms used to do this. They had very active game masters and if you were reported for botting, they would just send you a tell and if you didn't respond after, I think it was three tries, and answer their question correctly, they teleported you and flagged you. After so many flags, banzored.
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  • Jadeviper1974
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    Kyosji wrote: »
    Welp, I say provide a few hours of non-stop video of you watching these 'bots', or you have nothing to back your claim up with. Seems fair.

    There is video of bots farming, hours of it even, but I am not gonna do the youtube search for you.
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  • ElliottXO
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    Anyone watching this video:

    The Elder Scrolls Online F***ing Bots [ESO] (youtube: watch?v=jrm7i1pEz_Q)

    telling me those are not bots has a serious problem with his conception. Today I saw them in a level 35 dungeon! They move higher and higher since Zenimax seems not to be able to get rid of them in time.
  • Eris
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    ESO should use it's phasing technology to phase a boss out for 24 hours after it has been killed. People who have not killed the boss in the last 24 hours will see and be able to fight the boss, but people who haven't won't. So unless someone wants to stand around for 24 hours, there won't be a reason for them to just sit there.

    I can see them going boss to boss to boss, but they actually have to do that rather than just stand there.

    It would be a really great use for phase tech.
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  • pmn100b16_ESO
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    Its not just dungeon bosses now though, its node harvesting too. No wonder I can't find any runes to level enchanting. Thanks to all that are posting their bots vids, everyone recording their play should do this and hopefully something will be addressed.
  • Randazzo
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    "Kyosji wrote: »
    blah blah

    You're an apologist. A devils advocate. You have no stake in the argument but for the sake of arguing.

    STFU.
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