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So streak malus goes down to 33%
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✭✭✭✭MartiniDaniels wrote: »RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »Look at the other side of the fence, I use Streak mostly offensively to stun and damage people, not run away. Should I be punished with a 50% increased cost for simply trying to fight back?
the 50% stacking cost is too much. Dodge roll gets medium armor passives, CP cost reduction, Armor trait cost reduction, etc.
The magic cost reduction was removed from CP, and there is no armor trait cost reduction like dodge roll has. Streak should be at 33% not 50% because that puts it in line properly with dodge roll where it should be. 50% was far too punishing to use the skill, especially when using it in an offensive fashion.
You have 10% cost reduction from 5 pieces of light armor, 7% from being breton in your signature, 5% from sorc's passives... and you have them in no-CP too, while dodge-roll doesn't have any dodge roll cost reduction other then medium armor passive.
I am an Imperial StamSorc nowadays, I haven't played Mag Sorc in nearly 3 years. My bad for not updating my signature.
Well Fitted, Meduim passives, and CP passives far out weigh what you listed...Well fitted is a very heavily used trait and for good reason.Rinaldo Gandolphi-Breton Sorcerer Daggerfall Covenant
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universal_wrath✭✭✭✭✭MartiniDaniels wrote: »RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »Look at the other side of the fence, I use Streak mostly offensively to stun and damage people, not run away. Should I be punished with a 50% increased cost for simply trying to fight back?
the 50% stacking cost is too much. Dodge roll gets medium armor passives, CP cost reduction, Armor trait cost reduction, etc.
The magic cost reduction was removed from CP, and there is no armor trait cost reduction like dodge roll has. Streak should be at 33% not 50% because that puts it in line properly with dodge roll where it should be. 50% was far too punishing to use the skill, especially when using it in an offensive fashion.
You have 10% cost reduction from 5 pieces of light armor, 7% from being breton in your signature, 5% from sorc's passives... and you have them in no-CP too, while dodge-roll doesn't have any dodge roll cost reduction other then medium armor passive.
Most sorcs in pvp are high elves for the stam regen from passives to ise dark deal more. Rarely see any bretons.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »MartiniDaniels wrote: »RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »Look at the other side of the fence, I use Streak mostly offensively to stun and damage people, not run away. Should I be punished with a 50% increased cost for simply trying to fight back?
the 50% stacking cost is too much. Dodge roll gets medium armor passives, CP cost reduction, Armor trait cost reduction, etc.
The magic cost reduction was removed from CP, and there is no armor trait cost reduction like dodge roll has. Streak should be at 33% not 50% because that puts it in line properly with dodge roll where it should be. 50% was far too punishing to use the skill, especially when using it in an offensive fashion.
You have 10% cost reduction from 5 pieces of light armor, 7% from being breton in your signature, 5% from sorc's passives... and you have them in no-CP too, while dodge-roll doesn't have any dodge roll cost reduction other then medium armor passive.
I am an Imperial StamSorc nowadays, I haven't played Mag Sorc in nearly 3 years. My bad for not updating my signature.
Well Fitted, Meduim passives, and CP passives far out weigh what you listed...Well fitted is a very heavily used trait and for good reason.
Well-fitted is nice, but each piece of impen is too valuable to lose imo. And roll-dodge doesn't have 15 meter range, doesn't stun other players and so on.
Also given that BGs are no-CP and no-CP campaign is full in evening, I doubt CP campaign can be used as only reference. Anyway, I am not for any nerfs of streak, I just think there should be means to prevent free withdrawal. Gap closer is not reliable in this for different reasons.0 -
J2JMC✭✭✭✭✭Feel like ZOS needs to put out a daily reminder that Cyrodiil is not a dueling arena, so asking for nerfs based around a specific interaction between two classes and builds makes no sense. Cyrodiil is open world AvAvA. Different builds are going to thrive in certain pvp scenarios, and fail at others.
Don't get me wrong, I'm all for the nerf sorc threads, but a class that is designed to not be mobile should not be able to catch a class that is designed to be mobile. Especially when said non-mobile class doesn't even bother to build around catching a mobile class.
Then again, ZOS hasn't really shown that they care much about class identity. So maybe streak should just be removed and put into the mage's guild like the nb fear
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Battle leveling for pve content defeats the idea of progression. Remove CP
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By lowering the cost of streak malus, they're just encouraging people to flee even more instead of fightning, while other classes can't do nothing beside hiding behind rocks or in towers.
Does anyone remembers when devs stated that they wanted streak to be a fighting tool rather than an escape tool, and that's why they did put in the malus ? Too bad we're going far away from this right now thanks to their decisions.
Not really since they also removed the good ranged magica stun and effectively made sorc into a melee dd with streak.
It is more of a fighting tool on pts.
The issue is eso is a spam game and fighting with an ability that has increased cost on spamming doesn’t work.
I still would have preferred a version where the cost doesn’t increase when you hit a target.
can we point this out pls?!?! This is by far the best proposition I've heared, and it would embrace stamsorcs that want to use the skill offensively. At least make it happen for the (offensive) streak morph!0 -
iRaivyne✭✭✭Nothing good can come from trying to make apples taste like oranges. Streak and Dodge Roll are not equatable skills. Pretending they are is just stupid.0