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Bard's College as next Guild/Skill line?

  • Iskiab
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    Maybe/Other
    Make bard a class and not a skill line. Between the fighter, mages, psijiic and undaunted there are already too many skill lines to level.
    Looking for any guildies I used to play with:
    Havoc Warhammer - Alair
    LoC EQ2 - Mayi and Iskiab
    PRX and Tabula Rasa - Rift - Iskiab
    Or anyone else I used to play games with in guilds I’ve forgotten
  • Enkil
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    Yes, Please
    When are we getting a new guild skill line? Bard’s College was created around the time setting of ESO. I think it would be a great addition if done correctly.
  • TheShadowScout
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    Yes, Please
    Iskiab wrote: »
    Make bard a class and not a skill line. Between the fighter, mages, psijiic and undaunted there are already too many skill lines to level.
    What's easier to level, a skill line or a Whole New FRIGGIN CLASS??? Latter comes with crafting, riding, and ALL the skyshards and guilds (though soon you can pay for all that)

    Repeat after me: No. New. Classes!!!
    Enkil wrote: »
    When are we getting a new guild skill line? Bard’s College was created around the time setting of ESO. I think it would be a great addition if done correctly.
    Exactly.

    The nardic college of Solitude was supposedly founded right around this time. And its right next to the reach. So... a "western Skyrim" expansion next year, with a bardic guild line, and a "help the bards establish their college" questline... it would make a lot of sense, would it not?

    And they could well enough make some guild skill lines exclusive with each other... like "Bards don't take murdererd, so DB characters go away..." (cancelling your DB membership sold in the crown store)

    As I keep linking: https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/387560/additional-guild-ideas-mk-ii ;)
  • Minyassa
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    If they could pair this with a music system similar to LOTRO's with player driven music and the capability to play synced with others, I would never need another MMO again.
  • Osteos
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    Bard class would be fun. I still have a few character slots :)
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  • Finedaible
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    lolwut.

    I would like the idea of an Afflicted skill-line though. A disease/poison skill-line which is not compatible with Werewolf or Vampire.
  • TheShadowScout
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    Yes, Please
    Finedaible wrote: »
    I would like the idea of an Afflicted skill-line though. A disease/poison skill-line which is not compatible with Werewolf or Vampire.
    As long as it comes with vendors refusing to deal with you, city guards casing you our of population centers, and even the outlaw refugee barring your entry... sure.
    ...
    Come on. Have you no idea how disease-carriers were treated in medieval-ish societies? Even with magical healing they would all be like "go get cured first, then come back..." and thus the nurgling idea is not a goos one outside the eye of terror (not even inside, following Nurgle is just... icky. There are better ones! Hail Slaanesh - the chaos god of FUN!)
  • Loves_guars
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    Yes, Please
    I'd love it but I think we need new weapons first.
  • Nemesis7884
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    Yes, Please
    id love a skill line + a new bard class
  • Naftal
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    As long as the skill line has nothing to do with combat and is reserved for playing in towns etc.
  • Rake
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    Yes, Please
    Yes
  • Darkhorse1975
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    Yes, Please
    A cool Bard skill line could be all passives like legerdemain which is ranked up playing through a great storyline without dailies like psijic order. Some useful passives that would relate to bards could be reduced mats for furnishing crafting, reduced gold cost of outfit changes, reduced dodge roll cost.
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  • m2rc
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    Maybe/Other
    It would be weird to have a bunch of people singing songs in combat to buff DPS, but if there is some other way they can implement it I'm down.
  • Maxx7410
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    They can also make new quests/content for the guilds that we have now at least mage and fighting guild, vampire ww etc. Maybe we can have a mage tower?
  • Ysbriel
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    Yes, Please
    I would love a Bard but i think by the direction they are taking we might see unarmed whispering Fang monk class first
  • LoreToo
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    No way
    There is only one skill line to add: spellcraft.
    #releasespellcraft
  • Luigi_Vampa
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    Personally, I've never liked bards as a combat class in any game including D&D. I just really don't like the idea of singing / playing music during a battle. To me bardic music and sagas are about inspiring people prior to a battle, getting them riled up with epic tales of valor.

    I am, however, not the arbiter of what people like or what gets added so if people want it then sure, whatever. I probably wouldn't use the skill line and definitely wouldn't play a bard class.
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  • Sarannah
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    Not a bad idea, however I would even more so love to see a skill line like the Temple quests in TES 3:Morrowind. Helping npc's, pilgrimages, curing diseases, negotiating peace. Could even be a perfect set-up to make a non-class dependant healing skill line, since they are already messing with healing in update 23(resto staff skills aren't for everyone). If they do it right they might even get more healers in-game, reducing the queue times for random dungeons and increasing the player experience.

    Some other potential guilds/skill lines: The Blades, morag tong, daedric prince/tribunal(could all be different skill lines per prince, or even just one like almalexia)
  • TelvanniWizard
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    Maybe/Other
    As long as it isn't an infuriatingly long and boring grind...
  • TheShadowScout
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    Yes, Please
    Sarannah wrote: »
    Some other potential guilds/skill lines: The Blades,
    Definitely a possibilitey, even tho the imperials are more or less somewhat antagonistic to our player characters half the time...
    Sarannah wrote: »
    morag tong,
    ...too dunmer-specific, and way too similar to the dark brotherhood.
    Sarannah wrote: »
    daedric prince/tribunal(could all be different skill lines per prince, or even just one like almalexia)
    That is one I would like to see!
    How about one skill line... but each skill/passive gets a different effect depending on who you declare your "personal faith" for? (a little like you get different effects depending on which two handed weapon you equip from one passive...)
  • Finedaible
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    Finedaible wrote: »
    I would like the idea of an Afflicted skill-line though. A disease/poison skill-line which is not compatible with Werewolf or Vampire.
    As long as it comes with vendors refusing to deal with you, city guards casing you our of population centers, and even the outlaw refugee barring your entry... sure.
    ...
    Come on. Have you no idea how disease-carriers were treated in medieval-ish societies? Even with magical healing they would all be like "go get cured first, then come back..." and thus the nurgling idea is not a goos one outside the eye of terror (not even inside, following Nurgle is just... icky. There are better ones! Hail Slaanesh - the chaos god of FUN!)

    Well, first off, Peryite can't even be compared to Nurgle, so that's not what I was going for at all. I was thinking more like Chaos Servant 'abilities' in DS1, or the Afflicted's spit attack in Skyrim. As for the repercussions in towns and cities, that's... That's kinda the point to a Peryite-related skill-line. Vampires and werewolves have been largely shunned and turned away from cities in most Elder Scrolls games, so that would be par-for-the-course for a 'blessing' of Peryite obviously.
  • FrancisCrawford
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    Minstrel was by far my favorite class in LOTRO, and bard is my favorite class in D&D.

    Nonetheless, I don't actually think the musical flavor added much of anything in LOTRO ... nor do I recall Alan Dean Foster's Spellsinger books as being particularly good. :) Music is naturally slower than than fast-paced combat.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDnJ8JlPieU
  • SirAxen
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    Grayfax wrote: »
    To be fair, the job done on the bards in Summerset has been pretty outstanding. I just sat and watched one for half an hour one night. The fingers all work independently, the mouth synced well with the words. I was amazed at all of the little details that went into the performance that most people just run by and never see.

    The crowds around some are bad (clapping and cheering), but there is a little bar area between the stables and the main market of Alinor that sits up in an alcove and has chairs that you can sit in and just enjoy the music.

    I'm ok if we the players never get a skill line, but if the bards keep increasing their skills as in-game performers, I am going to want some more quality venues, and quite likely a way to purchase one in the Crown Store. There are just some areas of large houses that a bard would enhance nicely to set a better mood.

    Sadly, there a LOT of little things in this game most people never seem to notice. For an MMORPG, ESO is super immersive.
  • Marginis
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    Yes, Please
    Ooh, Bard's College skill line... I'm in.

    Might even be able to help make up for the incoming healer nerfs.
    @Marginis on PC, Senpai Fluffy on Xbox, Founder of Magicka. Also known as Kha'jiri, The Night Mother, Ma'iq, Jane Shepard, Damia, Kintyra, Zoor Do Kest, You, and a few others.
  • Nevasca
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    No way
    No way.

    Gives us a bard class instead!
  • Kr3do
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    Yes, Please
    Why not, would at least be less boring than the stuff we've been getting lately.
  • Iskiab
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    I changed my mind, I’d love it.

    Stamhealer/support line would be awesome.

    Group minor protection, treat songs like a pet and have it take up two bar slots for things like extra regen or powerful effects, it’d be awesome.
    Looking for any guildies I used to play with:
    Havoc Warhammer - Alair
    LoC EQ2 - Mayi and Iskiab
    PRX and Tabula Rasa - Rift - Iskiab
    Or anyone else I used to play games with in guilds I’ve forgotten
  • CardboardedBox
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    Could be done easily. But would it be done is another story. It might be fun to use. Magic lute weapon that turns it's soundwaves into blasts of magic energy(problem with new weapon type is so many motifs to cover)(but, it WOULD be another magic weapon finally).

    Also class would be heavily buff friends, debuff foes.

    It wouldn't actually need full on music either, just some strumming, quick one off notes. It's sound wouldn't be anymore intrusive than existing weapons that way. And a long channel ability using full music could just be faint sounding, only actually hearing other players music when right on top of them.
    Edited by CardboardedBox on August 3, 2019 1:31PM
  • starlizard70ub17_ESO
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    I don't know why, but seeing the bard class topic, I suddenly had this vision of storming a keep in Cryodiil while a couple of bards played Led Zeppelin's The Immigrant Song in the background.
    "We have found a cave, but I don't think there are warm fires and friendly faces inside."
  • TrinityBreaker
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    Maybe/Other
    Bard guild/skill line does sound interesting but could I get that Monk class so I can give other players these hands in the literal sense?
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