TheUndeadAmulet wrote: »Honestly, ZOS could easily just leave it in and it won't be much of an issue. It's not like its sustainable. At worst, It's cheese.
And I'm absolutely not saying this because my only tank is a Sorc Tank.
Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »@paulsimonps wouldn't wearing footman's get you to 100% while blocking with 6 heavy? Mean, it is is only 5% movement speed but still.
LOL, sorc is indeed a special class...zbzszzzt123 wrote: »With the new changes to Immovable on Scalebreaker PTS, it is now possible to achieve 100% block mitigation on a sorcerer.
Tommy_The_Gun wrote: »LOL, sorc is indeed a special class...zbzszzzt123 wrote: »With the new changes to Immovable on Scalebreaker PTS, it is now possible to achieve 100% block mitigation on a sorcerer.
btw. Is it just me or sorc is the most popular class in eso ? I mean, they are the most vocal class on forums. Almost all re-balancing ideas (nerfs) like cast time on shields they were able to cry-off and turn into a buff...
"As long as we keep bound armor up", which would leave no time for attacks since it has a useless duration. Bound armor is meant to be used at the last second to block hard hitting attacks. Sure, if you dedicate 100% of your rotation to fortifying block you can do this, but you'll run out of stamina and do 0 damage.
"As long as we keep bound armor up", which would leave no time for attacks since it has a useless duration. Bound armor is meant to be used at the last second to block hard hitting attacks. Sure, if you dedicate 100% of your rotation to fortifying block you can do this, but you'll run out of stamina and do 0 damage.
Tanks aren’t supposed to deal damage.
Tanks aren’t supposed to deal damage.
MartiniDaniels wrote: »Possible outcomes if ZOS will notice:
- nerf all tanks (blocking mitigation cap at best, change to formula to be multiplicative with diminishing returns at worst)
- nerf sorc
- nerf immovable
paulsimonps wrote: »Yup yup, but as people pointed out its fairly expensive and you can't move while doing it. It has to be 7 heavy to hit the 100% mark so no moving for you. It also again requires that you block so its not like you can heavy attack or anything to regain resources. And so any decent amount of up time is out the window immediately. But in some PvE fights this will actually be really good for the Sorcs, if you can manage to time the two punch combo of Immovable-Bound Aegis in time then things like Olms Swipe, Warriors Channled Sweep(which correct me if I am wrong is still direct damage?), Rakkaths barrage is blockable too, so there are some good spots for it. So its really not THAT overpowered but I will say it would be funny to see someone manage their resources for a bit of time in PvP and see people rage at their enemy taking no damage outside of DoTs.
Remember though for people that want to use this, Immovable is 4 seconds and Bound Aegis is 3 so use Immovable first.
paulsimonps wrote: »Yup yup, but as people pointed out its fairly expensive and you can't move while doing it. It has to be 7 heavy to hit the 100% mark so no moving for you. It also again requires that you block so its not like you can heavy attack or anything to regain resources. And so any decent amount of up time is out the window immediately. But in some PvE fights this will actually be really good for the Sorcs, if you can manage to time the two punch combo of Immovable-Bound Aegis in time then things like Olms Swipe, Warriors Channled Sweep(which correct me if I am wrong is still direct damage?), Rakkaths barrage is blockable too, so there are some good spots for it. So its really not THAT overpowered but I will say it would be funny to see someone manage their resources for a bit of time in PvP and see people rage at their enemy taking no damage outside of DoTs.
Remember though for people that want to use this, Immovable is 4 seconds and Bound Aegis is 3 so use Immovable first.
I actually reached 100% with 6 Heavy 1 light with footman. So you can indeed move while doing this
Edit: just saw it was mentioned above.
MartiniDaniels wrote: »paulsimonps wrote: »Yup yup, but as people pointed out its fairly expensive and you can't move while doing it. It has to be 7 heavy to hit the 100% mark so no moving for you. It also again requires that you block so its not like you can heavy attack or anything to regain resources. And so any decent amount of up time is out the window immediately. But in some PvE fights this will actually be really good for the Sorcs, if you can manage to time the two punch combo of Immovable-Bound Aegis in time then things like Olms Swipe, Warriors Channled Sweep(which correct me if I am wrong is still direct damage?), Rakkaths barrage is blockable too, so there are some good spots for it. So its really not THAT overpowered but I will say it would be funny to see someone manage their resources for a bit of time in PvP and see people rage at their enemy taking no damage outside of DoTs.
Remember though for people that want to use this, Immovable is 4 seconds and Bound Aegis is 3 so use Immovable first.
I actually reached 100% with 6 Heavy 1 light with footman. So you can indeed move while doing this
Edit: just saw it was mentioned above.
Well, you can always move with roll-dodge.
Now let's calculate for DK with footman and defensive position:
20+10(DK)+10(defensive slotted)+35(immovable)+8(footman)=83% base bonus block mitigation
*0.5 (block)*0.5(resistances)*0.9*0.8(CP)*0.95(aegis) = 0.2908 ~ 97.1% mitigation
W/o footman and defensive:
65% base bonus block mitigation *0.5 (block)*0.5(resistances)*0.9*0.8(CP)*0.95(aegis) = 0.59 ~ 94% mitigation
On live on typical build:
20+10=30% base bonus block mitigation*0.5 (block)*0.5(resistances)*0.9*0.8(CP)*0.95(aegis) = 0.1197 ~ 88% mitigation.
So using immovable in right moments cuts damage in half and if min-maxed you will have only 25% of what's incoming on live. If devs won't nerf it right now, sounds like fun. Even without footman we can build for extreme mitigation, which though eats ton of stamina and we'll lose magicka restore from balance...
paulsimonps wrote: »MartiniDaniels wrote: »paulsimonps wrote: »Yup yup, but as people pointed out its fairly expensive and you can't move while doing it. It has to be 7 heavy to hit the 100% mark so no moving for you. It also again requires that you block so its not like you can heavy attack or anything to regain resources. And so any decent amount of up time is out the window immediately. But in some PvE fights this will actually be really good for the Sorcs, if you can manage to time the two punch combo of Immovable-Bound Aegis in time then things like Olms Swipe, Warriors Channled Sweep(which correct me if I am wrong is still direct damage?), Rakkaths barrage is blockable too, so there are some good spots for it. So its really not THAT overpowered but I will say it would be funny to see someone manage their resources for a bit of time in PvP and see people rage at their enemy taking no damage outside of DoTs.
Remember though for people that want to use this, Immovable is 4 seconds and Bound Aegis is 3 so use Immovable first.
I actually reached 100% with 6 Heavy 1 light with footman. So you can indeed move while doing this
Edit: just saw it was mentioned above.
Well, you can always move with roll-dodge.
Now let's calculate for DK with footman and defensive position:
20+10(DK)+10(defensive slotted)+35(immovable)+8(footman)=83% base bonus block mitigation
*0.5 (block)*0.5(resistances)*0.9*0.8(CP)*0.95(aegis) = 0.2908 ~ 97.1% mitigation
W/o footman and defensive:
65% base bonus block mitigation *0.5 (block)*0.5(resistances)*0.9*0.8(CP)*0.95(aegis) = 0.59 ~ 94% mitigation
On live on typical build:
20+10=30% base bonus block mitigation*0.5 (block)*0.5(resistances)*0.9*0.8(CP)*0.95(aegis) = 0.1197 ~ 88% mitigation.
So using immovable in right moments cuts damage in half and if min-maxed you will have only 25% of what's incoming on live. If devs won't nerf it right now, sounds like fun. Even without footman we can build for extreme mitigation, which though eats ton of stamina and we'll lose magicka restore from balance...
6 heavy 1 light and then just use Streak