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Templars PvP - Detailed Guide, Suggestions, Advice, etc. - Elsweyr

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    Pro tip: After doing the build editor on here and doing your skills with a frontbar set with a seperate backbar set; make sure you put the right weapon on the right bar. Not from ermm.. experience or anything. LOL

    Good lord, where has my mind been and how long did I do that? I was killing people too.
  • The_Lex
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    The_Lex wrote: »
    How does Innate Axiom perform on a magplar, gernally? Will it buff HtD? I was thinking of running it alongside a defensive set like FB or Pariah in no-CP.

    Its buffs all your class damage and healing its really good on magplar since we use a ton of class skills.

    Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Thanks!

  • No_Division
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    technohic wrote: »
    Pro tip: After doing the build editor on here and doing your skills with a frontbar set with a seperate backbar set; make sure you put the right weapon on the right bar. Not from ermm.. experience or anything. LOL

    Good lord, where has my mind been and how long did I do that? I was killing people too.

    There a bug on my editor giving me 24% mag Regen from "skills" lol
  • technohic
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    Yeah, I just happened to notice when going to 2H for the front bar and updated my build. I love boosting crescent sweep while also having them off balance and according to the editor, my effective spell power is 8k.(I'm not sure how accurate it is. I would have to buff and charge at something, get my damage proc, and take the screenshot then do math, but I'll just say it hits hard enough because Im lazy) I took off the skill point that made my frost staff cost magicka also and having the stam weapon helps sustain my blocking.

    Got rid of solar barrage to clean up setup time and for now, I use either RD or Repentance. Im not really sure what I want there as I don't want more setup as being the noob jab spammer I guess that I am for daring to use the ability; getting on that is my HOT along with ER up. Thinking I will use one of the eclipses in this spot on the update.

    Updated Build

    Edited by technohic on July 29, 2019 12:20PM
  • EtTuBrutus
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    technohic wrote: »
    Yeah, I just happened to notice when going to 2H for the front bar and updated my build. I love boosting crescent sweep while also having them off balance and according to the editor, my effective spell power is 8k.(I'm not sure how accurate it is. I would have to buff and charge at something, get my damage proc, and take the screenshot then do math, but I'll just say it hits hard enough because Im lazy) I took off the skill point that made my frost staff cost magicka also and having the stam weapon helps sustain my blocking.

    Got rid of solar barrage to clean up setup time and for now, I use either RD or Repentance. Im not really sure what I want there as I don't want more setup as being the noob jab spammer I guess that I am for daring to use the ability; getting on that is my HOT along with ER up. Thinking I will use one of the eclipses in this spot on the update.

    Updated Build

    U need to get that effective spell dmg up. Ive got hybrids with more.
  • technohic
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    EtTuBrutus wrote: »
    technohic wrote: »
    Yeah, I just happened to notice when going to 2H for the front bar and updated my build. I love boosting crescent sweep while also having them off balance and according to the editor, my effective spell power is 8k.(I'm not sure how accurate it is. I would have to buff and charge at something, get my damage proc, and take the screenshot then do math, but I'll just say it hits hard enough because Im lazy) I took off the skill point that made my frost staff cost magicka also and having the stam weapon helps sustain my blocking.

    Got rid of solar barrage to clean up setup time and for now, I use either RD or Repentance. Im not really sure what I want there as I don't want more setup as being the noob jab spammer I guess that I am for daring to use the ability; getting on that is my HOT along with ER up. Thinking I will use one of the eclipses in this spot on the update.

    Updated Build

    U need to get that effective spell dmg up. Ive got hybrids with more.

    Well...I could go innate axiom in place of Shacklebreaker now that I have both stam and magicka heavy attacks. Would get me some crit as well. I could try to get to my backbar every 5 seconds and do infused weapon damage there and then nirnhone my frontbar but that becomes impractical
  • coletas
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    Fortified brass
    technohic wrote: »
    EtTuBrutus wrote: »
    technohic wrote: »
    Yeah, I just happened to notice when going to 2H for the front bar and updated my build. I love boosting crescent sweep while also having them off balance and according to the editor, my effective spell power is 8k.(I'm not sure how accurate it is. I would have to buff and charge at something, get my damage proc, and take the screenshot then do math, but I'll just say it hits hard enough because Im lazy) I took off the skill point that made my frost staff cost magicka also and having the stam weapon helps sustain my blocking.

    Got rid of solar barrage to clean up setup time and for now, I use either RD or Repentance. Im not really sure what I want there as I don't want more setup as being the noob jab spammer I guess that I am for daring to use the ability; getting on that is my HOT along with ER up. Thinking I will use one of the eclipses in this spot on the update.

    Updated Build

    U need to get that effective spell dmg up. Ive got hybrids with more.

    Well...I could go innate axiom in place of Shacklebreaker now that I have both stam and magicka heavy attacks. Would get me some crit as well. I could try to get to my backbar every 5 seconds and do infused weapon damage there and then nirnhone my frontbar but that becomes impractical

    Why going heavy? Is always much better fortified brass or pariah, specially with your bloodspawn and rune! And until they nerf It, protective jewlery works really great too. Thats stats on your build are really bad for a magplar if you want to kill anyone
  • technohic
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    OK, so what are your guys acceptable effective spell power?
  • Jabbs_Giggity
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    technohic wrote: »
    OK, so what are your guys acceptable effective spell power?

    Honestly, it's up to you...I recently started running high max mag with no major sorcery build on my Magplar and it shreds...

    I think my fully buffed spell damage is sitting around 2.8K but I am feeling like it hits way harder than when I had a 4K spell damage build
  • coletas
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    technohic wrote: »
    OK, so what are your guys acceptable effective spell power?

    If you want to kill something, for me about 2500 unbuffed and no less than 33k magicka. But is very "way of play" dependant. I like to play with elemental drain (Up to 14k penetration) so maybe for you 2500sd is still little. I spam a lot Frost touch, so you maybe dont need much regen.
  • SneaK
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    Resistances aside, would a VMA staff give more regen than rune? Wondering about next patch
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    Aldmeri Dominion
    Bosmer Nightblade AR 32 - Altmer Templar AR 26 - Dunmer Dragonknight AR 18 - Altmer Sorcerer AR 20 - Khajiit Dragonknight AR 18
    (+3 not worth mentioning, yet)
  • EtTuBrutus
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    My builds current effective spell dmg is 12.3k
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    SneaK wrote: »
    Resistances aside, would a VMA staff give more regen than rune? Wondering about next patch

    I play with 1500... Just heavy attack while sweeping. rune and elemental drain, and support ultimate helps too. Desert rose works great too but forces you to get damage, which is not a good keep defense set
  • No_Division
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    EtTuBrutus wrote: »
    My builds current effective spell dmg is 12.3k

    with 26k resist/3300 crit resist target?
  • coletas
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    EtTuBrutus wrote: »
    My builds current effective spell dmg is 12.3k

    Remember to craft invisibility potions XD
  • EtTuBrutus
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    EtTuBrutus wrote: »
    My builds current effective spell dmg is 12.3k

    with 26k resist/3300 crit resist target?

    Bro, I've sent u my builds lol
  • EtTuBrutus
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    It's 32k spell 30 physical 3300 yes. In rune.
  • SneaK
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    coletas wrote: »
    SneaK wrote: »
    Resistances aside, would a VMA staff give more regen than rune? Wondering about next patch

    I play with 1500... Just heavy attack while sweeping. rune and elemental drain, and support ultimate helps too. Desert rose works great too but forces you to get damage, which is not a good keep defense set

    Not to sound rude, I’m curious specifically about the VMA staff vs Rune. And wasn’t sure if someone has already tested this.

    Reasoning, Pirate Skelly is going away so Chudan could be a replacement. But I wouldn’t do that without good reason since Rune is so good right now.
    Edited by SneaK on July 29, 2019 10:37PM
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    Aldmeri Dominion
    Bosmer Nightblade AR 32 - Altmer Templar AR 26 - Dunmer Dragonknight AR 18 - Altmer Sorcerer AR 20 - Khajiit Dragonknight AR 18
    (+3 not worth mentioning, yet)
  • No_Division
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    EtTuBrutus wrote: »
    EtTuBrutus wrote: »
    My builds current effective spell dmg is 12.3k

    with 26k resist/3300 crit resist target?

    Bro, I've sent u my builds lol

    I never got one, what are you talking about ;)
  • coletas
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    SneaK wrote: »
    coletas wrote: »
    SneaK wrote: »
    Resistances aside, would a VMA staff give more regen than rune? Wondering about next patch

    I play with 1500... Just heavy attack while sweeping. rune and elemental drain, and support ultimate helps too. Desert rose works great too but forces you to get damage, which is not a good keep defense set

    Not to sound rude, I’m curious specifically about the VMA staff vs Rune. And wasn’t sure if someone has already tested this.

    Reasoning, Pirate Skelly is going away so Chudan could be a replacement. But I wouldn’t do that without good reason since Rune is so good right now.

    You can go jorvuld,+pirate or steadfast + bloodspawn (best tank i have build). A templar without rune is like a sorcer without shields. Wear rune + 1 piece chudan +1 pirate or lordwarden
  • EtTuBrutus
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  • coletas
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    Ah, and about vMA resto staff, thats for pure healers on trials. 2700 magicka cost every 4 seconds to recover 800 has no sense
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    The best regen is trying to heavy attack with sense. While puncturing sweep or while on Major protection, or while enemy rooted (i play with Frost staff) is usually ideal for my way of play
  • No_Division
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    EtTuBrutus wrote: »

    you still have 18000 PVE target resists. Heres your updated number off your crafty build I found 6 pages back:
    9346

    That is still VERY high.
  • EtTuBrutus
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    coletas wrote: »
    Ah, and about vMA resto staff, thats for pure healers on trials. 2700 magicka cost every 4 seconds to recover 800 has no sense

    Shhhhhh, vma resto is plenty viable. Not as a replacement for focus, But it's great as a back bar set
  • SneaK
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    EtTuBrutus wrote: »
    coletas wrote: »
    Ah, and about vMA resto staff, thats for pure healers on trials. 2700 magicka cost every 4 seconds to recover 800 has no sense

    Shhhhhh, vma resto is plenty viable. Not as a replacement for focus, But it's great as a back bar set

    Yea I guess I completely spaced out the fact that rapid regen is such a short duration. I’m trying to find a spot on my bar for the skill since it apparently is getting a big buff. Replacing Rune wouldn’t be a comparison.
    "IMO"
    Aldmeri Dominion
    Bosmer Nightblade AR 32 - Altmer Templar AR 26 - Dunmer Dragonknight AR 18 - Altmer Sorcerer AR 20 - Khajiit Dragonknight AR 18
    (+3 not worth mentioning, yet)
  • EtTuBrutus
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    EtTuBrutus wrote: »

    you still have 18000 PVE target resists. Heres your updated number off your crafty build I found 6 pages back:
    9346

    That is still VERY high.

    How do you select target resistance?
  • EtTuBrutus
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    Wow, the first page. Prob spend the least amount of time there lol
  • No_Division
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    EtTuBrutus wrote: »
    Wow, the first page. Prob spend the least amount of time there lol

    use it, because it updates your mitigation tab ;)
  • Metemsycosis
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    @EtTuBrutus

    Nice stats. Id hate to get trapped in a tower against you.
    Wyd for mobility?
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