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Any plans to help out with MagBlade survivability?
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A Magblade has very low survivability as it is. With the nerf to protective trait jewelry, Magblades are losing out on 2100 phys/spell resistance (~700 per jewelry piece) and losing 5% damage mitigation from the Merciless Resolve nerf.
As we see: ZOS has buffed Sap Essence a bit in order to make melee MagBlades more attractive- however their survivability is almost nil within melee range. ESPECIALLY now that stamina-based characters all have access to Fear (Turn Evil) and can burst down a magblade in a heartbeat. A MagBlade doesn't stand a chance within melee range. Even their Major Ward/Resolve abilities only last about three seconds.
@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_Gilliam @ZOS_BrianWheeler Could you tweak Magblades a bit to help them out? I feel like Magblades, MagDens, and MagNecros are pretty low on the totem poll right now.
Edited by Savos_Saren on July 24, 2019 5:34AM As we see: ZOS has buffed Sap Essence a bit in order to make melee MagBlades more attractive- however their survivability is almost nil within melee range. ESPECIALLY now that stamina-based characters all have access to Fear (Turn Evil) and can burst down a magblade in a heartbeat. A MagBlade doesn't stand a chance within melee range. Even their Major Ward/Resolve abilities only last about three seconds.
@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_Gilliam @ZOS_BrianWheeler Could you tweak Magblades a bit to help them out? I feel like Magblades, MagDens, and MagNecros are pretty low on the totem poll right now.
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Speak for yourself. (Melee magblade main here).Savos_Saren wrote: »their survivability is almost nil within melee range.6 -
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✭Savos_Saren wrote: »A Magblade has very low survivability as it is. With the nerf to protective trait jewelry, Magblades are losing out on 2100 phys/spell resistance (~700 per jewelry piece) and losing 5% damage mitigation from the Merciless Resolve nerf.
As we see: ZOS has buffed Sap Essence a bit in order to make melee MagBlades more attractive- however their survivability is almost nil within melee range. ESPECIALLY now that stamina-based characters all have access to Fear (Turn Evil) and can burst down a magblade in a heartbeat. A MagBlade doesn't stand a chance within melee range. Even their Major Ward/Resolve abilities only last about three seconds.
@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_Gilliam @ZOS_BrianWheeler Could you tweak Magblades a bit to help them out? I feel like Magblades, MagDens, and MagNecros are pretty low on the totem poll right now.
That survivability thing is a joke right?PC EU - Ebonheart Pact - Gray Host - Death Recap -#zergfarming -7 -
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✭✭✭✭With the nerf to protective trait jewelry, Magblades are losing out on 2100 phys/spell resistance (~700 per jewelry piece)
for the record, you only lose 1% of armor per trait, with a max of 3% less armor.
old
1844/660=2.79%
new
1190/660= 1.8%
1844-1190= 654
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✭The only things I want done to magblade is concealed weapon to be buffed add major breach or a hot when you hit someone and a class self heal using malevolent offering morphs. As far as survivability I don’t even use protective on my jewellery honestly we are fine in that department solo play on magblade is awesome.Edited by Deathlord92 on July 24, 2019 12:07PM2 -
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✭@Savos_Saren Are you by any chance
a) not using shadowy disguise in combination with shade/rat/swift or not using dark cloak or using it with less than 30-35k health?
b) running vampire on your build
c) not using hist sap or brp resto or pirate skeleton/bloodspawn?
If any of the above (especially running vamp after the change to it's calculations two patches ago) you need to adjust your build to the current patch.
I still run vamp on my proxy blade and it's like a death sentence against anything stamina/mDK. So for open world builds you should drop vamp, equip some generic hist sap / spinner / brp resto build with dark cloak and >30k hp and then talk about survivability again, especially as of next patch where entropy viability rises and running lingering pots on magblades could become a thing.PC EU - Ebonheart Pact - Gray Host - Death Recap -#zergfarming -2 -
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✭✭If you’re STILL crying about magblade survivability you’re just a bad player
Relentless focus gives 15% damage
Shade another 15%
Dark cloak gives 8%
Then if you wanna run buffer of the Swift that’s another 10%
You’re already looking at 48% damage mitigation. Without any protective or pirate skeleton on.
Clearly and L2p issue. Quit crying and adapt.
And before you cry even more about grim focus being 10%, ooooooo so hurt you now have 43% damage mitigation instead of 48% whatever will you do waaaa.
Smh
Also if you’re using cloak instead of dark cloak on your magblade. You’re probably doing it wrong unless you’re just a glass cannon gank build or a bomber3 -
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✭✭✭✭If you’re STILL crying about magblade survivability you’re just a bad player
Relentless focus gives 15% damage
Shade another 15%
Dark cloak gives 8%
Then if you wanna run buffer of the Swift that’s another 10%
You’re already looking at 48% damage mitigation. Without any protective or pirate skeleton on.
Clearly and L2p issue. Quit crying and adapt.
And before you cry even more about grim focus being 10%, ooooooo so hurt you now have 43% damage mitigation instead of 48% whatever will you do waaaa.
Smh
Also if you’re using cloak instead of dark cloak on your magblade. You’re probably doing it wrong unless you’re just a glass cannon gank build or a bomber
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Ulfgarde✭✭✭✭✭Yeah except with resto changes all 3 of those classes are in a good spot next patch, not to mention magblade has the best % mitigation out of them. And on live magblade is quite tanky on its own. The more "tweaking" you demand, the higher chance these classes get nerfed to hell.Edited by Ulfgarde on July 25, 2019 12:35AMVery athletic eso player
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Saril_Durzam✭✭✭✭In PvE, maybe you´re right. On PvP, well landed Cloak gives you the best survability of the game... magicka classes survability is meh nowadays, but NB tools makes them ignore it.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Oh look, people are still thinking that magblades are strong PvP spec
LOL! Maybe that's why high rank MMR are filled with them... Or that's why you see only magblades in Cyrodiil... Oh wait... Say no to Toxic Casuals!
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✭I'd rather see better sustain than increased tankyness. Boring turtlebuilds are getting stronger anyway, due to buffed healing.0 -
Freakin_Hytte✭✭✭✭✭Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »With the nerf to protective trait jewelry, Magblades are losing out on 2100 phys/spell resistance (~700 per jewelry piece)
for the record, you only lose 1% of armor per trait, with a max of 3% less armor.
old
1844/660=2.79%
new
1190/660= 1.8%
1844-1190= 654
Awesome, always wondered how much resistances actually mitigate, have my insightful m8 👍0 -
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✭✭✭Magblade survivability is in a good spot but if someone is running a hard counter to Cloak you better be good with Shade and have some heals slotted.
Next patch you are gimping yourself if you don't run Resto staff.Edited by brandonv516 on July 24, 2019 4:05PM3 -
Chubarov_S✭✭✭If you’re STILL crying about magblade survivability you’re just a bad player
Relentless focus gives 15% damage
Shade another 15%
Dark cloak gives 8%
Then if you wanna run buffer of the Swift that’s another 10%
You’re already looking at 48% damage mitigation. Without any protective or pirate skeleton on.
Clearly and L2p issue. Quit crying and adapt.
And before you cry even more about grim focus being 10%, ooooooo so hurt you now have 43% damage mitigation instead of 48% whatever will you do waaaa.
Smh
Also if you’re using cloak instead of dark cloak on your magblade. You’re probably doing it wrong unless you’re just a glass cannon gank build or a bomber
Lol, this is not how it works)) Otherwise we would have seen people with 100% mitigationTheorycrafter manaNB1 -
Chubarov_S✭✭✭Savos_Saren wrote: »A Magblade has very low survivability as it is. With the nerf to protective trait jewelry, Magblades are losing out on 2100 phys/spell resistance (~700 per jewelry piece) and losing 5% damage mitigation from the Merciless Resolve nerf.
As we see: ZOS has buffed Sap Essence a bit in order to make melee MagBlades more attractive- however their survivability is almost nil within melee range. ESPECIALLY now that stamina-based characters all have access to Fear (Turn Evil) and can burst down a magblade in a heartbeat. A MagBlade doesn't stand a chance within melee range. Even their Major Ward/Resolve abilities only last about three seconds.
@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_Gilliam @ZOS_BrianWheeler Could you tweak Magblades a bit to help them out? I feel like Magblades, MagDens, and MagNecros are pretty low on the totem poll right now.
unfortunately mnb very poorly is played without Pirate-Skeleton, because this set is obligatoryTheorycrafter manaNB0 -
Tattooo✭✭✭Savos_Saren wrote: »A Magblade has very low survivability as it is. With the nerf to protective trait jewelry, Magblades are losing out on 2100 phys/spell resistance (~700 per jewelry piece) and losing 5% damage mitigation from the Merciless Resolve nerf.
As we see: ZOS has buffed Sap Essence a bit in order to make melee MagBlades more attractive- however their survivability is almost nil within melee range. ESPECIALLY now that stamina-based characters all have access to Fear (Turn Evil) and can burst down a magblade in a heartbeat. A MagBlade doesn't stand a chance within melee range. Even their Major Ward/Resolve abilities only last about three seconds.
@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_Gilliam @ZOS_BrianWheeler Could you tweak Magblades a bit to help them out? I feel like Magblades, MagDens, and MagNecros are pretty low on the totem poll right now.
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