Why Templar has no changed ?
Decreased the DoT damage of Spear Shards and Luminous by approximately 37% per tick, and Blazing Spear by approximately 42% per tick.
Solar Barrage (morph): Decreased the damage of this morph by approximately 33% per tick.
Because your comparison is wrong as Sweeps is spammable channel, while skills you listed are typical DoTs.
Only valuable comparison is initial damage of Fiery Breath that can be used as spammable AoE and if you compare its damage or any other spammable AoEs like Impulse or Shards - you will notice that Sweeps as AoE is already perform below those standards of "Cone vs AoE", for other reasons.
When you end your OP with this sentence, it automatically implies that this is something about the Templar class, and not specifically the skill. Like "Why didn´t the templar were nerfed the way others were?" !!!!Why Templar has no changed ?
This should be that OP last sentenceI just wanna figure out the reason of exclusion,
Because of the nature with how the skill is used. Its balanced by single target channels, but with an AOE component as a "perk" to using it. The aoe component is not thought for most PvP, and it's only in PvE that's the AoE is decent
GeorgeBlack wrote: »
Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »GeorgeBlack wrote: »
BECAUSE OF THE NATURE WITH HOW THE SKILL IS USED. ITS BALANCED BY SINGLE TARGET CHANNELS, BUT WITH AN AOE COMPONENT AS A "PERK" TO USING IT. THE AOE COMPONENT IS NOT THOUGHT FOR MOST PVP, AND IT'S ONLY IN PVE THAT'S THE AOE IS DECENT
Jabs on live server is severly punnished by latency. I have many friends that have stop play their stamplar due to the fact that the class defining ability does not even hit the target. Last night on several occassion standing infront of guards 3 rounds of jabs and only 2 jabs landed. I had to light attact the guard to death.
master_vanargand wrote: »Puncturing Strikes has 70% snare & proc Burning Light.
It is very strong, so Punturing Strikes is the best spam skill in PvP.
master_vanargand wrote: »Puncturing Strikes has 70% snare & proc Burning Light.
It is very strong, so Punturing Strikes is the best spam skill in PvP.
GeorgeBlack wrote: »Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »GeorgeBlack wrote: »
BECAUSE OF THE NATURE WITH HOW THE SKILL IS USED. ITS BALANCED BY SINGLE TARGET CHANNELS, BUT WITH AN AOE COMPONENT AS A "PERK" TO USING IT. THE AOE COMPONENT IS NOT THOUGHT FOR MOST PVP, AND IT'S ONLY IN PVE THAT'S THE AOE IS DECENT
Dont scream angry little fellow.
AoE is def not a perk.
Tell that to NB who try to cloak away.
My stamplar mate melts people in bgs with jabs.
IronWooshu wrote: »GeorgeBlack wrote: »Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »GeorgeBlack wrote: »
BECAUSE OF THE NATURE WITH HOW THE SKILL IS USED. ITS BALANCED BY SINGLE TARGET CHANNELS, BUT WITH AN AOE COMPONENT AS A "PERK" TO USING IT. THE AOE COMPONENT IS NOT THOUGHT FOR MOST PVP, AND IT'S ONLY IN PVE THAT'S THE AOE IS DECENT
Dont scream angry little fellow.
AoE is def not a perk.
Tell that to NB who try to cloak away.
My stamplar mate melts people in bgs with jabs.
The AOE damage is half of what the single target gets.. c'mon man.... think
Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »IronWooshu wrote: »GeorgeBlack wrote: »Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »GeorgeBlack wrote: »
BECAUSE OF THE NATURE WITH HOW THE SKILL IS USED. ITS BALANCED BY SINGLE TARGET CHANNELS, BUT WITH AN AOE COMPONENT AS A "PERK" TO USING IT. THE AOE COMPONENT IS NOT THOUGHT FOR MOST PVP, AND IT'S ONLY IN PVE THAT'S THE AOE IS DECENT
Dont scream angry little fellow.
AoE is def not a perk.
Tell that to NB who try to cloak away.
My stamplar mate melts people in bgs with jabs.
The AOE damage is half of what the single target gets.. c'mon man.... think
the closest target takes 2.57 times the damage of the targets in the aoe. way more than half.
IronWooshu wrote: »Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »IronWooshu wrote: »GeorgeBlack wrote: »Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »GeorgeBlack wrote: »
BECAUSE OF THE NATURE WITH HOW THE SKILL IS USED. ITS BALANCED BY SINGLE TARGET CHANNELS, BUT WITH AN AOE COMPONENT AS A "PERK" TO USING IT. THE AOE COMPONENT IS NOT THOUGHT FOR MOST PVP, AND IT'S ONLY IN PVE THAT'S THE AOE IS DECENT
Dont scream angry little fellow.
AoE is def not a perk.
Tell that to NB who try to cloak away.
My stamplar mate melts people in bgs with jabs.
The AOE damage is half of what the single target gets.. c'mon man.... think
the closest target takes 2.57 times the damage of the targets in the aoe. way more than half.
If your spear deals 1612 to the closest enemy that means the enemies around them takes 625. Why are you arguing for me quoting me like I am wrong?
Already this skill is under performing to their AOE standards and is weaker than Liquid Lightning etc.
You are literally going to go out of your way over what I said being half as I took an estimate to be precise at 39% while taking some high horse stand. LoLLightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »IronWooshu wrote: »Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »IronWooshu wrote: »GeorgeBlack wrote: »Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »GeorgeBlack wrote: »
BECAUSE OF THE NATURE WITH HOW THE SKILL IS USED. ITS BALANCED BY SINGLE TARGET CHANNELS, BUT WITH AN AOE COMPONENT AS A "PERK" TO USING IT. THE AOE COMPONENT IS NOT THOUGHT FOR MOST PVP, AND IT'S ONLY IN PVE THAT'S THE AOE IS DECENT
Dont scream angry little fellow.
AoE is def not a perk.
Tell that to NB who try to cloak away.
My stamplar mate melts people in bgs with jabs.
The AOE damage is half of what the single target gets.. c'mon man.... think
the closest target takes 2.57 times the damage of the targets in the aoe. way more than half.
If your spear deals 1612 to the closest enemy that means the enemies around them takes 625. Why are you arguing for me quoting me like I am wrong?
Already this skill is under performing to their AOE standards and is weaker than Liquid Lightning etc.
625 is not "half" of 1612, it is 39%. you are wrong. LL is not an aoe spammable, that skill is a ground based aoe dot. no idea what is make you compare them. the closest thing to sweeps is sap essence, heals and damage. but even that is not perfect, the closest target for sweeps takes double the damage of sap(if all 4 sweeps hits land) and the aoe of does 78% of the damage of sap(if all 4 sweeps land). meaning you need 4 targets for sap to start to do more average damage of sweep. 5 total targets if you count a proc of burning light to 1 or 2 of the targets.
IronWooshu wrote: »Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »IronWooshu wrote: »Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »IronWooshu wrote: »GeorgeBlack wrote: »Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »GeorgeBlack wrote: »
BECAUSE OF THE NATURE WITH HOW THE SKILL IS USED. ITS BALANCED BY SINGLE TARGET CHANNELS, BUT WITH AN AOE COMPONENT AS A "PERK" TO USING IT. THE AOE COMPONENT IS NOT THOUGHT FOR MOST PVP, AND IT'S ONLY IN PVE THAT'S THE AOE IS DECENT
Dont scream angry little fellow.
AoE is def not a perk.
Tell that to NB who try to cloak away.
My stamplar mate melts people in bgs with jabs.
The AOE damage is half of what the single target gets.. c'mon man.... think
the closest target takes 2.57 times the damage of the targets in the aoe. way more than half.
If your spear deals 1612 to the closest enemy that means the enemies around them takes 625. Why are you arguing for me quoting me like I am wrong?
Already this skill is under performing to their AOE standards and is weaker than Liquid Lightning etc.
625 is not "half" of 1612, it is 39%. you are wrong. LL is not an aoe spammable, that skill is a ground based aoe dot. no idea what is make you compare them. the closest thing to sweeps is sap essence, heals and damage. but even that is not perfect, the closest target for sweeps takes double the damage of sap(if all 4 sweeps hits land) and the aoe of does 78% of the damage of sap(if all 4 sweeps land). meaning you need 4 targets for sap to start to do more average damage of sweep. 5 total targets if you count a proc of burning light to 1 or 2 of the targets.
You are literally going to go out of your way over what I said being half as I took an estimate to be precise at 39% while taking some high horse stand. LoL
I literally in all your posts have no idea what you are even arguing, OP wants to nerf Sweeps because it's an AOE and not following their AOE standards.
Are you for or against that? If you understood the entire convo instead of trying to get picky over an estimation rather then the precise number and ignore the context then so be it. I guess people need to make up for where they lack elsewhere somehow.
Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »IronWooshu wrote: »Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »IronWooshu wrote: »Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »IronWooshu wrote: »GeorgeBlack wrote: »Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »GeorgeBlack wrote: »
BECAUSE OF THE NATURE WITH HOW THE SKILL IS USED. ITS BALANCED BY SINGLE TARGET CHANNELS, BUT WITH AN AOE COMPONENT AS A "PERK" TO USING IT. THE AOE COMPONENT IS NOT THOUGHT FOR MOST PVP, AND IT'S ONLY IN PVE THAT'S THE AOE IS DECENT
Dont scream angry little fellow.
AoE is def not a perk.
Tell that to NB who try to cloak away.
My stamplar mate melts people in bgs with jabs.
The AOE damage is half of what the single target gets.. c'mon man.... think
the closest target takes 2.57 times the damage of the targets in the aoe. way more than half.
If your spear deals 1612 to the closest enemy that means the enemies around them takes 625. Why are you arguing for me quoting me like I am wrong?
Already this skill is under performing to their AOE standards and is weaker than Liquid Lightning etc.
625 is not "half" of 1612, it is 39%. you are wrong. LL is not an aoe spammable, that skill is a ground based aoe dot. no idea what is make you compare them. the closest thing to sweeps is sap essence, heals and damage. but even that is not perfect, the closest target for sweeps takes double the damage of sap(if all 4 sweeps hits land) and the aoe of does 78% of the damage of sap(if all 4 sweeps land). meaning you need 4 targets for sap to start to do more average damage of sweep. 5 total targets if you count a proc of burning light to 1 or 2 of the targets.
You are literally going to go out of your way over what I said being half as I took an estimate to be precise at 39% while taking some high horse stand. LoL
I literally in all your posts have no idea what you are even arguing, OP wants to nerf Sweeps because it's an AOE and not following their AOE standards.
Are you for or against that? If you understood the entire convo instead of trying to get picky over an estimation rather then the precise number and ignore the context then so be it. I guess people need to make up for where they lack elsewhere somehow.
for or against what? the op has been shown they are wrong in their thought process and you have too.
and you got me, i make forum posts cause my pee pee is small.