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7th Legion 5.1.1
akray21
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"Seventh Legion is both proccing and not proccing in areas it shouldn’t be. These will be fixed in a future PTS patch. Note that passives that proc are not considered “Ability casts”."
RIP for stambaldes and stamsorcs. Still a good set for the other classes.
Stamblades: can not proc this set off of the Shadow Barrier passive.
Stamsorcs: Hurricane is a 15 second buff with ramping damage, hitting the hardest the last 5 seconds. This does not synergize with this class as they have to give up Hurrican's highest damage window as well as cast the ability 33% more often resulting in more stamina drain.
What backbar damage set's are left for these classes?
RIP for stambaldes and stamsorcs. Still a good set for the other classes.
Stamblades: can not proc this set off of the Shadow Barrier passive.
Stamsorcs: Hurricane is a 15 second buff with ramping damage, hitting the hardest the last 5 seconds. This does not synergize with this class as they have to give up Hurrican's highest damage window as well as cast the ability 33% more often resulting in more stamina drain.
What backbar damage set's are left for these classes?
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akray21✭✭✭✭✭Lord_Eomer wrote: »Why Rip stam sorc? Hurricane is an ability not passive
I explained in OP. In the first pts 7th Legion was refreshing when Hurricane expanded, making it last 15 seconds. I will be using Hunding's.Edited by akray21 on July 15, 2019 4:10PM0 -
jaws343✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Lord_Eomer wrote: »Why Rip stam sorc? Hurricane is an ability not passive
Because, in order to keep a high uptime on the set, you have to continuously cast Hurricane, before it fully ramps up in damage.2 -
UndeniablyAVG✭✭✭✭Lord_Eomer wrote: »Why Rip stam sorc? Hurricane is an ability not passive
Hurricane is at its most effective during it's last 5 seconds, so in order to have 100% up time on this set you'd have to sacrifice the best part of Hurricane.
Not really a RIP Stamsorc thing but they shouldn't run this set.PS4 EU - Daggerfall Covenant
PSN - N_O_B_L_E-
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCqUlYStV91gCyNgVjSjapbw2 -
leepalmer95✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Lord_Eomer wrote: »Why Rip stam sorc? Hurricane is an ability not passive
Because, in order to keep a high uptime on the set, you have to continuously cast Hurricane, before it fully ramps up in damage.
So its a choice then i guess, accept the extra few ticks of dmg and let the buff drop or pre buff early.PS4 EU DC
Current CP : 756+
I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.
RIP my effort to get 5x v16 characters...0 -
Lord_Eomer✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Lord_Eomer wrote: »Why Rip stam sorc? Hurricane is an ability not passive
Because, in order to keep a high uptime on the set, you have to continuously cast Hurricane, before it fully ramps up in damage.
Hurricane is not high cast ability and getting set proc on demand is something very useful.
This is simply lame excuse, this set will perform much better on Stam Sorc with Troll King!
Its NB who suffer only!0 -
jcm2606✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Did it even passively proc with stamsorc, though? I imagine it would proc when you were given the resistance buffs, which is how Nightblade was able to passively proc it. Stamsorc gets them at the start of Hurricane, for the entire duration of Hurricane, and so shouldn't have been proccing it regardless.0 -
akray21✭✭✭✭✭Lord_Eomer wrote: »Lord_Eomer wrote: »Why Rip stam sorc? Hurricane is an ability not passive
Because, in order to keep a high uptime on the set, you have to continuously cast Hurricane, before it fully ramps up in damage.
Hurricane is not high cast ability and getting set proc on demand is something very useful.
This is simply lame excuse, this set will perform much better on Stam Sorc with Troll King!
Its NB who suffer only!
Hurricane costs 1951 for my build. In a 30 second window Hurricane would need to be cast 1 more time, equating to an amount equal to 130 stamina recovery. The 5 piece might as well say -130 stam recovery as well. This isn't even taking into consideration the opportunity cost involved.Edited by akray21 on July 15, 2019 4:09PM2 -
Royalthought✭✭✭✭✭Lord_Eomer wrote: »Lord_Eomer wrote: »Why Rip stam sorc? Hurricane is an ability not passive
Because, in order to keep a high uptime on the set, you have to continuously cast Hurricane, before it fully ramps up in damage.
Hurricane is not high cast ability and getting set proc on demand is something very useful.
This is simply lame excuse, this set will perform much better on Stam Sorc with Troll King!
Its NB who suffer only!
Yea. its pretty unreasonable to not allow it to proc of a passive from a casted ability. They know thats how nightblades were designed to get there limited duration of major resolve.
This was a nerf that targeted nightblades specifically.
Bad decision1 -
Lord_Eomer✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Lord_Eomer wrote: »Lord_Eomer wrote: »Why Rip stam sorc? Hurricane is an ability not passive
Because, in order to keep a high uptime on the set, you have to continuously cast Hurricane, before it fully ramps up in damage.
Hurricane is not high cast ability and getting set proc on demand is something very useful.
This is simply lame excuse, this set will perform much better on Stam Sorc with Troll King!
Its NB who suffer only!
Hurricane costs 1951 for my build. In a 30 second window Hurricane would need to be cast 1 more time, equating to an amount equal to 130 stamina recovery. The 5 piece might as well say -130 stam recovery as well. This isn't even taking into consideration the opportunity cost involved.
First of all the change is made to use proc carefully not have 100% uptime
but anyway it will have easily 80-90% uptime in PVP.
I believe this set is in a perfect spot, further excuses will put it over power.Edited by Lord_Eomer on July 15, 2019 4:18PM1 -
leepalmer95✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Royalthought wrote: »Lord_Eomer wrote: »Lord_Eomer wrote: »Why Rip stam sorc? Hurricane is an ability not passive
Because, in order to keep a high uptime on the set, you have to continuously cast Hurricane, before it fully ramps up in damage.
Hurricane is not high cast ability and getting set proc on demand is something very useful.
This is simply lame excuse, this set will perform much better on Stam Sorc with Troll King!
Its NB who suffer only!
Yea. its pretty unreasonable to not allow it to proc of a passive from a casted ability. They know thats how nightblades were designed to get there limited duration of major resolve.
This was a nerf that targeted nightblades specifically.
Bad decision
But nb's would have 100% uptime passively that way, the set clearly isn't designed to easily have 100% uptime.PS4 EU DC
Current CP : 756+
I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.
RIP my effort to get 5x v16 characters...4 -
Royalthought✭✭✭✭✭leepalmer95 wrote: »Royalthought wrote: »Lord_Eomer wrote: »Lord_Eomer wrote: »Why Rip stam sorc? Hurricane is an ability not passive
Because, in order to keep a high uptime on the set, you have to continuously cast Hurricane, before it fully ramps up in damage.
Hurricane is not high cast ability and getting set proc on demand is something very useful.
This is simply lame excuse, this set will perform much better on Stam Sorc with Troll King!
Its NB who suffer only!
Yea. its pretty unreasonable to not allow it to proc of a passive from a casted ability. They know thats how nightblades were designed to get there limited duration of major resolve.
This was a nerf that targeted nightblades specifically.
Bad decision
But nb's would have 100% uptime passively that way, the set clearly isn't designed to easily have 100% uptime.
Any class using an ability that grants the buff can keep a 100% uptime.
Whats the uptime for nightblades now that there passives dont activate it?Edited by Royalthought on July 15, 2019 4:20PM1 -
susmitds✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭leepalmer95 wrote: »Royalthought wrote: »Lord_Eomer wrote: »Lord_Eomer wrote: »Why Rip stam sorc? Hurricane is an ability not passive
Because, in order to keep a high uptime on the set, you have to continuously cast Hurricane, before it fully ramps up in damage.
Hurricane is not high cast ability and getting set proc on demand is something very useful.
This is simply lame excuse, this set will perform much better on Stam Sorc with Troll King!
Its NB who suffer only!
Yea. its pretty unreasonable to not allow it to proc of a passive from a casted ability. They know thats how nightblades were designed to get there limited duration of major resolve.
This was a nerf that targeted nightblades specifically.
Bad decision
But nb's would have 100% uptime passively that way, the set clearly isn't designed to easily have 100% uptime.
NBs now have no way to use it.4 -
jaws343✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Royalthought wrote: »leepalmer95 wrote: »Royalthought wrote: »Lord_Eomer wrote: »Lord_Eomer wrote: »Why Rip stam sorc? Hurricane is an ability not passive
Because, in order to keep a high uptime on the set, you have to continuously cast Hurricane, before it fully ramps up in damage.
Hurricane is not high cast ability and getting set proc on demand is something very useful.
This is simply lame excuse, this set will perform much better on Stam Sorc with Troll King!
Its NB who suffer only!
Yea. its pretty unreasonable to not allow it to proc of a passive from a casted ability. They know thats how nightblades were designed to get there limited duration of major resolve.
This was a nerf that targeted nightblades specifically.
Bad decision
But nb's would have 100% uptime passively that way, the set clearly isn't designed to easily have 100% uptime.
Any class using an ability that grants the buff can keep a 100% uptime.
Whats the uptime for nightblades now that there passives dont activate it?
0% lol4 -
Strider__Roshin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭If it wasn't intended to be proc'd by Shadow barrier then so be it. I'll just use Ravager instead. Life continues.1 -
Lord_Eomer✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭leepalmer95 wrote: »Royalthought wrote: »Lord_Eomer wrote: »Lord_Eomer wrote: »Why Rip stam sorc? Hurricane is an ability not passive
Because, in order to keep a high uptime on the set, you have to continuously cast Hurricane, before it fully ramps up in damage.
Hurricane is not high cast ability and getting set proc on demand is something very useful.
This is simply lame excuse, this set will perform much better on Stam Sorc with Troll King!
Its NB who suffer only!
Yea. its pretty unreasonable to not allow it to proc of a passive from a casted ability. They know thats how nightblades were designed to get there limited duration of major resolve.
This was a nerf that targeted nightblades specifically.
Bad decision
But nb's would have 100% uptime passively that way, the set clearly isn't designed to easily have 100% uptime.
NBs now have no way to use it.
Na! mages guild skill Balance
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Lord_Eomer✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Royalthought wrote: »leepalmer95 wrote: »Royalthought wrote: »Lord_Eomer wrote: »Lord_Eomer wrote: »Why Rip stam sorc? Hurricane is an ability not passive
Because, in order to keep a high uptime on the set, you have to continuously cast Hurricane, before it fully ramps up in damage.
Hurricane is not high cast ability and getting set proc on demand is something very useful.
This is simply lame excuse, this set will perform much better on Stam Sorc with Troll King!
Its NB who suffer only!
Yea. its pretty unreasonable to not allow it to proc of a passive from a casted ability. They know thats how nightblades were designed to get there limited duration of major resolve.
This was a nerf that targeted nightblades specifically.
Bad decision
But nb's would have 100% uptime passively that way, the set clearly isn't designed to easily have 100% uptime.
Any class using an ability that grants the buff can keep a 100% uptime.
Whats the uptime for nightblades now that there passives dont activate it?
0% lol
Not really when u can use Mages Guild Skill Balance0 -
Royalthought✭✭✭✭✭Its pretty retarted to single out 1 class for some odd reason. The passive requires an ability cast.
Casting shadow abilities buffs thier resistance.
This is exactly what the set was designed for.
It SHOULD in fact proc Seventh.3 -
akray21✭✭✭✭✭Lord_Eomer wrote: »Lord_Eomer wrote: »Lord_Eomer wrote: »Why Rip stam sorc? Hurricane is an ability not passive
Because, in order to keep a high uptime on the set, you have to continuously cast Hurricane, before it fully ramps up in damage.
Hurricane is not high cast ability and getting set proc on demand is something very useful.
This is simply lame excuse, this set will perform much better on Stam Sorc with Troll King!
Its NB who suffer only!
Hurricane costs 1951 for my build. In a 30 second window Hurricane would need to be cast 1 more time, equating to an amount equal to 130 stamina recovery. The 5 piece might as well say -130 stam recovery as well. This isn't even taking into consideration the opportunity cost involved.
First of all the change is made to use proc carefully not have 100% uptime
but anyway it will have easily 80-90% uptime in PVP.
I believe this set is in a perfect spot, further excuses will put it over powered.
There are better sets for stamsorc. The 50 extra WD over Hunding's is not worth the costs associated with this set. I just need to figure out which one bar set to run with BRP dual wield.Lord_Eomer wrote: »Royalthought wrote: »leepalmer95 wrote: »Royalthought wrote: »Lord_Eomer wrote: »Lord_Eomer wrote: »Why Rip stam sorc? Hurricane is an ability not passive
Because, in order to keep a high uptime on the set, you have to continuously cast Hurricane, before it fully ramps up in damage.
Hurricane is not high cast ability and getting set proc on demand is something very useful.
This is simply lame excuse, this set will perform much better on Stam Sorc with Troll King!
Its NB who suffer only!
Yea. its pretty unreasonable to not allow it to proc of a passive from a casted ability. They know thats how nightblades were designed to get there limited duration of major resolve.
This was a nerf that targeted nightblades specifically.
Bad decision
But nb's would have 100% uptime passively that way, the set clearly isn't designed to easily have 100% uptime.
Any class using an ability that grants the buff can keep a 100% uptime.
Whats the uptime for nightblades now that there passives dont activate it?
0% lol
Not really when u can use Mages Guild Skill Balance
So now the set proc costs NB's 6k health every 10 seconds, just for an extra 50 WD over Hunding's.3 -
Lord_Eomer✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Lord_Eomer wrote: »Lord_Eomer wrote: »Lord_Eomer wrote: »Why Rip stam sorc? Hurricane is an ability not passive
Because, in order to keep a high uptime on the set, you have to continuously cast Hurricane, before it fully ramps up in damage.
Hurricane is not high cast ability and getting set proc on demand is something very useful.
This is simply lame excuse, this set will perform much better on Stam Sorc with Troll King!
Its NB who suffer only!
Hurricane costs 1951 for my build. In a 30 second window Hurricane would need to be cast 1 more time, equating to an amount equal to 130 stamina recovery. The 5 piece might as well say -130 stam recovery as well. This isn't even taking into consideration the opportunity cost involved.
First of all the change is made to use proc carefully not have 100% uptime
but anyway it will have easily 80-90% uptime in PVP.
I believe this set is in a perfect spot, further excuses will put it over powered.
There are better sets for stamsorc. The 50 extra WD over Hunding's is not worth the costs associated with this set. I just need to figure out which one bar set to run with BRP dual wield.Lord_Eomer wrote: »Royalthought wrote: »leepalmer95 wrote: »Royalthought wrote: »Lord_Eomer wrote: »Lord_Eomer wrote: »Why Rip stam sorc? Hurricane is an ability not passive
Because, in order to keep a high uptime on the set, you have to continuously cast Hurricane, before it fully ramps up in damage.
Hurricane is not high cast ability and getting set proc on demand is something very useful.
This is simply lame excuse, this set will perform much better on Stam Sorc with Troll King!
Its NB who suffer only!
Yea. its pretty unreasonable to not allow it to proc of a passive from a casted ability. They know thats how nightblades were designed to get there limited duration of major resolve.
This was a nerf that targeted nightblades specifically.
Bad decision
But nb's would have 100% uptime passively that way, the set clearly isn't designed to easily have 100% uptime.
Any class using an ability that grants the buff can keep a 100% uptime.
Whats the uptime for nightblades now that there passives dont activate it?
0% lol
Not really when u can use Mages Guild Skill Balance
So now the set proc costs NB's 6k health every 10 seconds, just for an extra 50 WD over Hunding's.
I did not say that NB shall use this set but mentioned NB can still proc it.
NB are over performing in Heavy Armor sets, its better for them to stay away and Hunding Crit chance buff is somehow not very useful when u are looking for Burst Damage from cloak, need more Healing and resource for PVP
7th Legion set 1st and 2nd piece bonus are better than Crit Chance, so definitely a good choice over hunding for classes other than NBEdited by Lord_Eomer on July 15, 2019 4:35PM0 -
Royalthought✭✭✭✭✭Lord_Eomer wrote: »Lord_Eomer wrote: »Lord_Eomer wrote: »Lord_Eomer wrote: »Why Rip stam sorc? Hurricane is an ability not passive
Because, in order to keep a high uptime on the set, you have to continuously cast Hurricane, before it fully ramps up in damage.
Hurricane is not high cast ability and getting set proc on demand is something very useful.
This is simply lame excuse, this set will perform much better on Stam Sorc with Troll King!
Its NB who suffer only!
Hurricane costs 1951 for my build. In a 30 second window Hurricane would need to be cast 1 more time, equating to an amount equal to 130 stamina recovery. The 5 piece might as well say -130 stam recovery as well. This isn't even taking into consideration the opportunity cost involved.
First of all the change is made to use proc carefully not have 100% uptime
but anyway it will have easily 80-90% uptime in PVP.
I believe this set is in a perfect spot, further excuses will put it over powered.
There are better sets for stamsorc. The 50 extra WD over Hunding's is not worth the costs associated with this set. I just need to figure out which one bar set to run with BRP dual wield.Lord_Eomer wrote: »Royalthought wrote: »leepalmer95 wrote: »Royalthought wrote: »Lord_Eomer wrote: »Lord_Eomer wrote: »Why Rip stam sorc? Hurricane is an ability not passive
Because, in order to keep a high uptime on the set, you have to continuously cast Hurricane, before it fully ramps up in damage.
Hurricane is not high cast ability and getting set proc on demand is something very useful.
This is simply lame excuse, this set will perform much better on Stam Sorc with Troll King!
Its NB who suffer only!
Yea. its pretty unreasonable to not allow it to proc of a passive from a casted ability. They know thats how nightblades were designed to get there limited duration of major resolve.
This was a nerf that targeted nightblades specifically.
Bad decision
But nb's would have 100% uptime passively that way, the set clearly isn't designed to easily have 100% uptime.
Any class using an ability that grants the buff can keep a 100% uptime.
Whats the uptime for nightblades now that there passives dont activate it?
0% lol
Not really when u can use Mages Guild Skill Balance
So now the set proc costs NB's 6k health every 10 seconds, just for an extra 50 WD over Hunding's.
I did not say that NB shall use this set but mentioned NB can still proc it.
NB are over performing in Heavy Armor sets, its better for them to stay away and Hunding Crit chance buff is somehow not very useful when u need High Damage, Healing and resource for PVP
Overperforming?
You mean vs you?
Heavy armor isnt exclusive to any class.2 -
akray21✭✭✭✭✭Lord_Eomer wrote: »Lord_Eomer wrote: »Lord_Eomer wrote: »Lord_Eomer wrote: »Why Rip stam sorc? Hurricane is an ability not passive
Because, in order to keep a high uptime on the set, you have to continuously cast Hurricane, before it fully ramps up in damage.
Hurricane is not high cast ability and getting set proc on demand is something very useful.
This is simply lame excuse, this set will perform much better on Stam Sorc with Troll King!
Its NB who suffer only!
Hurricane costs 1951 for my build. In a 30 second window Hurricane would need to be cast 1 more time, equating to an amount equal to 130 stamina recovery. The 5 piece might as well say -130 stam recovery as well. This isn't even taking into consideration the opportunity cost involved.
First of all the change is made to use proc carefully not have 100% uptime
but anyway it will have easily 80-90% uptime in PVP.
I believe this set is in a perfect spot, further excuses will put it over powered.
There are better sets for stamsorc. The 50 extra WD over Hunding's is not worth the costs associated with this set. I just need to figure out which one bar set to run with BRP dual wield.Lord_Eomer wrote: »Royalthought wrote: »leepalmer95 wrote: »Royalthought wrote: »Lord_Eomer wrote: »Lord_Eomer wrote: »Why Rip stam sorc? Hurricane is an ability not passive
Because, in order to keep a high uptime on the set, you have to continuously cast Hurricane, before it fully ramps up in damage.
Hurricane is not high cast ability and getting set proc on demand is something very useful.
This is simply lame excuse, this set will perform much better on Stam Sorc with Troll King!
Its NB who suffer only!
Yea. its pretty unreasonable to not allow it to proc of a passive from a casted ability. They know thats how nightblades were designed to get there limited duration of major resolve.
This was a nerf that targeted nightblades specifically.
Bad decision
But nb's would have 100% uptime passively that way, the set clearly isn't designed to easily have 100% uptime.
Any class using an ability that grants the buff can keep a 100% uptime.
Whats the uptime for nightblades now that there passives dont activate it?
0% lol
Not really when u can use Mages Guild Skill Balance
So now the set proc costs NB's 6k health every 10 seconds, just for an extra 50 WD over Hunding's.
I did not say that NB shall use this set but mentioned NB can still proc it.
NB are over performing in Heavy Armor sets, its better for them to stay away and Hunding Crit chance buff is somehow not very useful when u need High Damage, Healing and resource for PVP
7th Legion set 1st and 2nd piece bonus are better than Crit Chance, so definitely a good choice over hunding for classes other than NB
I have successful builds that utilize Hunding's for damage and healing. Vigor crit heals are very nice, and crit is also very important for stamsorc when using crit surge.0 -
Lord_Eomer✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Royalthought wrote: »Lord_Eomer wrote: »Lord_Eomer wrote: »Lord_Eomer wrote: »Lord_Eomer wrote: »Why Rip stam sorc? Hurricane is an ability not passive
Because, in order to keep a high uptime on the set, you have to continuously cast Hurricane, before it fully ramps up in damage.
Hurricane is not high cast ability and getting set proc on demand is something very useful.
This is simply lame excuse, this set will perform much better on Stam Sorc with Troll King!
Its NB who suffer only!
Hurricane costs 1951 for my build. In a 30 second window Hurricane would need to be cast 1 more time, equating to an amount equal to 130 stamina recovery. The 5 piece might as well say -130 stam recovery as well. This isn't even taking into consideration the opportunity cost involved.
First of all the change is made to use proc carefully not have 100% uptime
but anyway it will have easily 80-90% uptime in PVP.
I believe this set is in a perfect spot, further excuses will put it over powered.
There are better sets for stamsorc. The 50 extra WD over Hunding's is not worth the costs associated with this set. I just need to figure out which one bar set to run with BRP dual wield.Lord_Eomer wrote: »Royalthought wrote: »leepalmer95 wrote: »Royalthought wrote: »Lord_Eomer wrote: »Lord_Eomer wrote: »Why Rip stam sorc? Hurricane is an ability not passive
Because, in order to keep a high uptime on the set, you have to continuously cast Hurricane, before it fully ramps up in damage.
Hurricane is not high cast ability and getting set proc on demand is something very useful.
This is simply lame excuse, this set will perform much better on Stam Sorc with Troll King!
Its NB who suffer only!
Yea. its pretty unreasonable to not allow it to proc of a passive from a casted ability. They know thats how nightblades were designed to get there limited duration of major resolve.
This was a nerf that targeted nightblades specifically.
Bad decision
But nb's would have 100% uptime passively that way, the set clearly isn't designed to easily have 100% uptime.
Any class using an ability that grants the buff can keep a 100% uptime.
Whats the uptime for nightblades now that there passives dont activate it?
0% lol
Not really when u can use Mages Guild Skill Balance
So now the set proc costs NB's 6k health every 10 seconds, just for an extra 50 WD over Hunding's.
I did not say that NB shall use this set but mentioned NB can still proc it.
NB are over performing in Heavy Armor sets, its better for them to stay away and Hunding Crit chance buff is somehow not very useful when u need High Damage, Healing and resource for PVP
Overperforming?
You mean vs you?
Heavy armor isnt exclusive to any class.
Anyway you can say its me or you anyone else but facts can not be ignore or u never played as NB @ Heavy Armor build
Enjoy ur gossip and lets not start arguments.0 -
Royalthought✭✭✭✭✭Lord_Eomer wrote: »Royalthought wrote: »Lord_Eomer wrote: »Lord_Eomer wrote: »Lord_Eomer wrote: »Lord_Eomer wrote: »Why Rip stam sorc? Hurricane is an ability not passive
Because, in order to keep a high uptime on the set, you have to continuously cast Hurricane, before it fully ramps up in damage.
Hurricane is not high cast ability and getting set proc on demand is something very useful.
This is simply lame excuse, this set will perform much better on Stam Sorc with Troll King!
Its NB who suffer only!
Hurricane costs 1951 for my build. In a 30 second window Hurricane would need to be cast 1 more time, equating to an amount equal to 130 stamina recovery. The 5 piece might as well say -130 stam recovery as well. This isn't even taking into consideration the opportunity cost involved.
First of all the change is made to use proc carefully not have 100% uptime
but anyway it will have easily 80-90% uptime in PVP.
I believe this set is in a perfect spot, further excuses will put it over powered.
There are better sets for stamsorc. The 50 extra WD over Hunding's is not worth the costs associated with this set. I just need to figure out which one bar set to run with BRP dual wield.Lord_Eomer wrote: »Royalthought wrote: »leepalmer95 wrote: »Royalthought wrote: »Lord_Eomer wrote: »Lord_Eomer wrote: »Why Rip stam sorc? Hurricane is an ability not passive
Because, in order to keep a high uptime on the set, you have to continuously cast Hurricane, before it fully ramps up in damage.
Hurricane is not high cast ability and getting set proc on demand is something very useful.
This is simply lame excuse, this set will perform much better on Stam Sorc with Troll King!
Its NB who suffer only!
Yea. its pretty unreasonable to not allow it to proc of a passive from a casted ability. They know thats how nightblades were designed to get there limited duration of major resolve.
This was a nerf that targeted nightblades specifically.
Bad decision
But nb's would have 100% uptime passively that way, the set clearly isn't designed to easily have 100% uptime.
Any class using an ability that grants the buff can keep a 100% uptime.
Whats the uptime for nightblades now that there passives dont activate it?
0% lol
Not really when u can use Mages Guild Skill Balance
So now the set proc costs NB's 6k health every 10 seconds, just for an extra 50 WD over Hunding's.
I did not say that NB shall use this set but mentioned NB can still proc it.
NB are over performing in Heavy Armor sets, its better for them to stay away and Hunding Crit chance buff is somehow not very useful when u need High Damage, Healing and resource for PVP
Overperforming?
You mean vs you?
Heavy armor isnt exclusive to any class.
Anyway you can say its me or you anyone else but facts can not be ignore or u never played as NB @ Heavy Armor build
Enjoy ur gossip and lets not start arguments.
Fact? Where?1 -
MrTtheDK✭✭✭"Seventh Legion is both proccing and not proccing in areas it shouldn’t be. These will be fixed in a future PTS patch. Note that passives that proc are not considered “Ability casts”."
RIP for stambaldes and stamsorcs. Still a good set for the other classes.
Stamblades: can not proc this set off of the Shadow Barrier passive.
Stamsorcs: Hurricane is a 15 second buff with ramping damage, hitting the hardest the last 5 seconds. This does not synergize with this class as they have to give up Hurrican's highest damage window as well as cast the ability 33% more often resulting in more stamina drain.
What backbar damage set's are left for these classes?
Armor Master/Seventh - Shuffle. Works on all. You're welcome.Main:
DC- Diablo Azul , Mr T
Alts: Nerf Something or Another
Guild: - Imperial City Police
RIP Guilds: Purple, WKB, Eight Divines, Rage, What Mechanics, Entropy Rising
Game: @TalosSeptim3 -
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✭✭✭✭✭"Seventh Legion is both proccing and not proccing in areas it shouldn’t be. These will be fixed in a future PTS patch. Note that passives that proc are not considered “Ability casts”."
RIP for stambaldes and stamsorcs. Still a good set for the other classes.
Stamblades: can not proc this set off of the Shadow Barrier passive.
Stamsorcs: Hurricane is a 15 second buff with ramping damage, hitting the hardest the last 5 seconds. This does not synergize with this class as they have to give up Hurrican's highest damage window as well as cast the ability 33% more often resulting in more stamina drain.
What backbar damage set's are left for these classes?
Armor Master/Seventh - Shuffle. Works on all. You're welcome.
That doesn't work. Armor Master works like a passive. Checked3 -
akray21✭✭✭✭✭"Seventh Legion is both proccing and not proccing in areas it shouldn’t be. These will be fixed in a future PTS patch. Note that passives that proc are not considered “Ability casts”."
RIP for stambaldes and stamsorcs. Still a good set for the other classes.
Stamblades: can not proc this set off of the Shadow Barrier passive.
Stamsorcs: Hurricane is a 15 second buff with ramping damage, hitting the hardest the last 5 seconds. This does not synergize with this class as they have to give up Hurrican's highest damage window as well as cast the ability 33% more often resulting in more stamina drain.
What backbar damage set's are left for these classes?
Armor Master/Seventh - Shuffle. Works on all. You're welcome.
I need to try this out. Hadn't thought about that set. Thanks!That doesn't work. Armor Master works like a passive. Checked
Doh! NM. Fantastic coding logic.Edited by akray21 on July 15, 2019 4:46PM0 -
Grimm_Cortex✭✭✭So now there is stuff that some class will not use anymore because of the proc request ... Great job !3
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MrTtheDK✭✭✭"Seventh Legion is both proccing and not proccing in areas it shouldn’t be. These will be fixed in a future PTS patch. Note that passives that proc are not considered “Ability casts”."
RIP for stambaldes and stamsorcs. Still a good set for the other classes.
Stamblades: can not proc this set off of the Shadow Barrier passive.
Stamsorcs: Hurricane is a 15 second buff with ramping damage, hitting the hardest the last 5 seconds. This does not synergize with this class as they have to give up Hurrican's highest damage window as well as cast the ability 33% more often resulting in more stamina drain.
What backbar damage set's are left for these classes?
Armor Master/Seventh - Shuffle. Works on all. You're welcome.
I need to try this out. Hadn't thought about that set. Thanks!That doesn't work. Armor Master works like a passive. Checked
Doh! NM. Fantastic coding logic.
Tested this on the PTS. It in fact procs seventh legion.Main:
DC- Diablo Azul , Mr T
Alts: Nerf Something or Another
Guild: - Imperial City Police
RIP Guilds: Purple, WKB, Eight Divines, Rage, What Mechanics, Entropy Rising
Game: @TalosSeptim0
