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7th Legion 5.1.1

  • universal_wrath
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    Vortigaunt wrote: »
    Lord_Eomer wrote: »
    jaws343 wrote: »
    Lord_Eomer wrote: »
    Why Rip stam sorc? Hurricane is an ability not passive

    Because, in order to keep a high uptime on the set, you have to continuously cast Hurricane, before it fully ramps up in damage.

    Hurricane is not high cast ability and getting set proc on demand is something very useful.

    This is simply lame excuse, this set will perform much better on Stam Sorc with Troll King!

    Its NB who suffer only!

    Yea. its pretty unreasonable to not allow it to proc of a passive from a casted ability. They know thats how nightblades were designed to get there limited duration of major resolve.

    This was a nerf that targeted nightblades specifically.

    Bad decision

    Boohoo stamblades can’t do something and now they are sad because they don’t get to have everything like always. Get used to it. Play a stam sorc next time you complain about stamblades.

    I do. Hurricane works just fine. Great class.

    Something you care to add?

    Hurricanes sucks ass, bad visuals and audio. Also bad mechanics of skill, 150% on last 1 tick. Can we plsea return the 250% dmg boost but increase skill to 25 secs? This should help a bit, also minor expidiotion is not special to stam sorc anymore. Stam sorcs is not fast anymore, other classes have easy access to major expedition or heavy snares making stam sorc a fat runner. Last thing, stam sorc is not a class anymore, it's a test dummy. You try stam sorc for anything, if it work fine, it will do great on other classes.
  • Royalthought
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    Vortigaunt wrote: »
    Lord_Eomer wrote: »
    jaws343 wrote: »
    Lord_Eomer wrote: »
    Why Rip stam sorc? Hurricane is an ability not passive

    Because, in order to keep a high uptime on the set, you have to continuously cast Hurricane, before it fully ramps up in damage.

    Hurricane is not high cast ability and getting set proc on demand is something very useful.

    This is simply lame excuse, this set will perform much better on Stam Sorc with Troll King!

    Its NB who suffer only!

    Yea. its pretty unreasonable to not allow it to proc of a passive from a casted ability. They know thats how nightblades were designed to get there limited duration of major resolve.

    This was a nerf that targeted nightblades specifically.

    Bad decision

    Boohoo stamblades can’t do something and now they are sad because they don’t get to have everything like always. Get used to it. Play a stam sorc next time you complain about stamblades.

    I do. Hurricane works just fine. Great class.

    Something you care to add?

    Hurricanes sucks ass, bad visuals and audio. Also bad mechanics of skill, 150% on last 1 tick. Can we plsea return the 250% dmg boost but increase skill to 25 secs? This should help a bit, also minor expidiotion is not special to stam sorc anymore. Stam sorcs is not fast anymore, other classes have easy access to major expedition or heavy snares making stam sorc a fat runner. Last thing, stam sorc is not a class anymore, it's a test dummy. You try stam sorc for anything, if it work fine, it will do great on other classes.

    Any steps that can be taken to improve a class I'm all for.

    But the reason hurricane was mentioned as it pertains to this discussion is because it procs 7th on pts. For that it works fine.
  • hakan
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    Did seventh stacked before pts changes? Like with 2 seconds cooldown, did weapon damage stacked?
  • Firstmep
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    hakan wrote: »
    Did seventh stacked before pts changes? Like with 2 seconds cooldown, did weapon damage stacked?

    No, the heal could reoccur and wpd buff could refresh.
    I for one like this new one for my stamplar, pair it with TK and the new gold drink that gives hp recovery and it should be pretty kewl.
  • evoniee
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    out of topic.
    the fact that new 7th actually still a better pts senche bite which is an even more nerfed version of live senche bite.
    10 sec 350 wpdamage for 4000 magicka vs 8 sec 12% crit damage for +- 3000 stamina.
    Clap for their balance.
  • DisgracefulMind
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    Nightblades having one set inaccessible to them because of their OP passive armor buff on skills they commonly use is completely fine and balanced imo. Passive armor buff is already incredibly OP as is. It's okay, nightblades, to have something that goes against that.
    Edited by DisgracefulMind on July 18, 2019 9:07AM
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  • akray21
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    Nightblades having one set inaccessible to them because of their OP passive armor buff on skills they commonly use is completely fine and balanced imo. Passive armor buff is already incredibly OP as is. It's okay, nightblades, to have something that goes against that.

    What about the fact that my current PvP NB build is wearing a golded out 7th legion? The set was not just nerfed for NB, it is unusable.
  • Vortigaunt
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    Vortigaunt wrote: »
    Lord_Eomer wrote: »
    jaws343 wrote: »
    Lord_Eomer wrote: »
    Why Rip stam sorc? Hurricane is an ability not passive

    Because, in order to keep a high uptime on the set, you have to continuously cast Hurricane, before it fully ramps up in damage.

    Hurricane is not high cast ability and getting set proc on demand is something very useful.

    This is simply lame excuse, this set will perform much better on Stam Sorc with Troll King!

    Its NB who suffer only!

    Yea. its pretty unreasonable to not allow it to proc of a passive from a casted ability. They know thats how nightblades were designed to get there limited duration of major resolve.

    This was a nerf that targeted nightblades specifically.

    Bad decision

    Boohoo stamblades can’t do something and now they are sad because they don’t get to have everything like always. Get used to it. Play a stam sorc next time you complain about stamblades.

    I do. Hurricane works just fine. Great class.

    Something you care to add?

    So you use your only class dot and highest pressure ability to trigger your main damage set, which runs out just when your class dot is about to ramp up and do some decent damage.

    Are you trolling? Nobody can be this delusional
  • akray21
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    Vortigaunt wrote: »
    Vortigaunt wrote: »
    Lord_Eomer wrote: »
    jaws343 wrote: »
    Lord_Eomer wrote: »
    Why Rip stam sorc? Hurricane is an ability not passive

    Because, in order to keep a high uptime on the set, you have to continuously cast Hurricane, before it fully ramps up in damage.

    Hurricane is not high cast ability and getting set proc on demand is something very useful.

    This is simply lame excuse, this set will perform much better on Stam Sorc with Troll King!

    Its NB who suffer only!

    Yea. its pretty unreasonable to not allow it to proc of a passive from a casted ability. They know thats how nightblades were designed to get there limited duration of major resolve.

    This was a nerf that targeted nightblades specifically.

    Bad decision

    Boohoo stamblades can’t do something and now they are sad because they don’t get to have everything like always. Get used to it. Play a stam sorc next time you complain about stamblades.

    I do. Hurricane works just fine. Great class.

    Something you care to add?

    So you use your only class dot and highest pressure ability to trigger your main damage set, which runs out just when your class dot is about to ramp up and do some decent damage.

    Are you trolling? Nobody can be this delusional

    People act like they play a class when posting on the forums. All these people acting like they play stamsorc yet I see very few around PvP.
  • Strider__Roshin
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    Nightblades having one set inaccessible to them because of their OP passive armor buff on skills they commonly use is completely fine and balanced imo. Passive armor buff is already incredibly OP as is. It's okay, nightblades, to have something that goes against that.

    Oh please, it's not as strong as Templars passively getting minor protection, and if you're a Warden you get your Major defense buffs and minor protection with one ability for 24 seconds. It wouldn't have been OP for Nightblades to be able to utilize Seventh Legion, and honestly it is kind of messed up that ZOS is intending to completely prevent one class from using this set. I'm not sweating it, but I still don't think it's right. However, I do see why it might be unfair if Nightblades were able to have 100% uptime with this set with minimal effort.
  • Royalthought
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    Vortigaunt wrote: »
    Vortigaunt wrote: »
    Lord_Eomer wrote: »
    jaws343 wrote: »
    Lord_Eomer wrote: »
    Why Rip stam sorc? Hurricane is an ability not passive

    Because, in order to keep a high uptime on the set, you have to continuously cast Hurricane, before it fully ramps up in damage.

    Hurricane is not high cast ability and getting set proc on demand is something very useful.

    This is simply lame excuse, this set will perform much better on Stam Sorc with Troll King!

    Its NB who suffer only!

    Yea. its pretty unreasonable to not allow it to proc of a passive from a casted ability. They know thats how nightblades were designed to get there limited duration of major resolve.

    This was a nerf that targeted nightblades specifically.

    Bad decision

    Boohoo stamblades can’t do something and now they are sad because they don’t get to have everything like always. Get used to it. Play a stam sorc next time you complain about stamblades.

    I do. Hurricane works just fine. Great class.

    Something you care to add?

    So you use your only class dot and highest pressure ability to trigger your main damage set, which runs out just when your class dot is about to ramp up and do some decent damage.

    Are you trolling? Nobody can be this delusional
    akray21 wrote: »
    Vortigaunt wrote: »
    Vortigaunt wrote: »
    Lord_Eomer wrote: »
    jaws343 wrote: »
    Lord_Eomer wrote: »
    Why Rip stam sorc? Hurricane is an ability not passive

    Because, in order to keep a high uptime on the set, you have to continuously cast Hurricane, before it fully ramps up in damage.

    Hurricane is not high cast ability and getting set proc on demand is something very useful.

    This is simply lame excuse, this set will perform much better on Stam Sorc with Troll King!

    Its NB who suffer only!

    Yea. its pretty unreasonable to not allow it to proc of a passive from a casted ability. They know thats how nightblades were designed to get there limited duration of major resolve.

    This was a nerf that targeted nightblades specifically.

    Bad decision

    Boohoo stamblades can’t do something and now they are sad because they don’t get to have everything like always. Get used to it. Play a stam sorc next time you complain about stamblades.

    I do. Hurricane works just fine. Great class.

    Something you care to add?

    So you use your only class dot and highest pressure ability to trigger your main damage set, which runs out just when your class dot is about to ramp up and do some decent damage.

    Are you trolling? Nobody can be this delusional

    People act like they play a class when posting on the forums. All these people acting like they play stamsorc yet I see very few around PvP.

    So you would rather hurricane NOT proc at all?

    That's whats being suggested for the Nightblades design.

    Grass is always greener huh? People act like... Get over yourself. I don't like how the buff runs out before hurricane hits its peak potential but that doesn't change the fact it still procs it.

    That's what this discussion is about.
  • akray21
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    Vortigaunt wrote: »
    Vortigaunt wrote: »
    Lord_Eomer wrote: »
    jaws343 wrote: »
    Lord_Eomer wrote: »
    Why Rip stam sorc? Hurricane is an ability not passive

    Because, in order to keep a high uptime on the set, you have to continuously cast Hurricane, before it fully ramps up in damage.

    Hurricane is not high cast ability and getting set proc on demand is something very useful.

    This is simply lame excuse, this set will perform much better on Stam Sorc with Troll King!

    Its NB who suffer only!

    Yea. its pretty unreasonable to not allow it to proc of a passive from a casted ability. They know thats how nightblades were designed to get there limited duration of major resolve.

    This was a nerf that targeted nightblades specifically.

    Bad decision

    Boohoo stamblades can’t do something and now they are sad because they don’t get to have everything like always. Get used to it. Play a stam sorc next time you complain about stamblades.

    I do. Hurricane works just fine. Great class.

    Something you care to add?

    So you use your only class dot and highest pressure ability to trigger your main damage set, which runs out just when your class dot is about to ramp up and do some decent damage.

    Are you trolling? Nobody can be this delusional
    akray21 wrote: »
    Vortigaunt wrote: »
    Vortigaunt wrote: »
    Lord_Eomer wrote: »
    jaws343 wrote: »
    Lord_Eomer wrote: »
    Why Rip stam sorc? Hurricane is an ability not passive

    Because, in order to keep a high uptime on the set, you have to continuously cast Hurricane, before it fully ramps up in damage.

    Hurricane is not high cast ability and getting set proc on demand is something very useful.

    This is simply lame excuse, this set will perform much better on Stam Sorc with Troll King!

    Its NB who suffer only!

    Yea. its pretty unreasonable to not allow it to proc of a passive from a casted ability. They know thats how nightblades were designed to get there limited duration of major resolve.

    This was a nerf that targeted nightblades specifically.

    Bad decision

    Boohoo stamblades can’t do something and now they are sad because they don’t get to have everything like always. Get used to it. Play a stam sorc next time you complain about stamblades.

    I do. Hurricane works just fine. Great class.

    Something you care to add?

    So you use your only class dot and highest pressure ability to trigger your main damage set, which runs out just when your class dot is about to ramp up and do some decent damage.

    Are you trolling? Nobody can be this delusional

    People act like they play a class when posting on the forums. All these people acting like they play stamsorc yet I see very few around PvP.

    So you would rather hurricane NOT proc at all?

    That's whats being suggested for the Nightblades design.

    Grass is always greener huh? People act like... Get over yourself. I don't like how the buff runs out before hurricane hits its peak potential but that doesn't change the fact it still procs it.

    That's what this discussion is about.

    My two main classes in PvP are stamsorc and stamblade. My stamblade is currently running 7th on live and will not even be able to run 7th at all with these changes.

    As for my stamsorc I don't see it as a good choice. Hurricane is already an underpowered DOT, why would I want to make it even weaker by using 7th over a different damage set? I might as well decon the set at this point.

    And I created this thread, so I think I know what this discussion is about... 😉
    Edited by akray21 on July 18, 2019 2:36PM
  • jediodyn_ESO
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    This set shouldn’t be something that you can activate on demand.

    Stop coddling this awful playstyle. Heavy armor should mean low output damage, but very hard to kill.

    Current PTS version of this set basically gives heavy armor users something equal to/better than one of the best stam dps sets in medium.

    7th needs the Viper’s Sting/Red Mountain Blackrose treatment. The “oh ones, my gold tempers” argument is not viable for something that has been so clearly over performing for so long.

    Edit: it’s actually OK to have a super tanks build with a short window of high DPS so long as it is reactive (something that triggers somewhat randomly) and not proactive (something that they can activate on demand). - Balancing 101

    Edited by jediodyn_ESO on July 18, 2019 3:06PM
  • akray21
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    This set shouldn’t be something that you can activate on demand.

    Stop coddling this awful playstyle. Heavy armor should mean low output damage, but very hard to kill.

    Current PTS version of this set basically gives heavy armor users something equal to/better than one of the best stam dps sets in medium.

    7th needs the Viper’s Sting/Red Mountain Blackrose treatment. The “oh ones, my gold tempers” argument is not viable for something that has been so clearly over performing for so long.

    Edit: it’s actually OK to have a super tanks build with a short window of high DPS so long as it is reactive (something that triggers somewhat randomly) and not proactive (something that they can activate on demand). - Balancing 101

    350 weapon damage is not a crazy high amount. You can get 300 WD at 100% uptime with Hunding's Rage, the downside there however is it's only a one bar set, but a lot of the arena weapons are useless in the current meta so one bar sets are less important.
  • Davadin
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    This set shouldn’t be something that you can activate on demand.

    Stop coddling this awful playstyle. Heavy armor should mean low output damage, but very hard to kill.

    Current PTS version of this set basically gives heavy armor users something equal to/better than one of the best stam dps sets in medium.

    7th needs the Viper’s Sting/Red Mountain Blackrose treatment. The “oh ones, my gold tempers” argument is not viable for something that has been so clearly over performing for so long.

    Edit: it’s actually OK to have a super tanks build with a short window of high DPS so long as it is reactive (something that triggers somewhat randomly) and not proactive (something that they can activate on demand). - Balancing 101

    i use 7th for the jewel/wep for the 500 wd proc together with heals.

    new 7th gets 350 only and swap heal with health regen (still broken in PTS), but at least it's on command.
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  • Davadin
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    akray21 wrote: »
    This set shouldn’t be something that you can activate on demand.

    Stop coddling this awful playstyle. Heavy armor should mean low output damage, but very hard to kill.

    Current PTS version of this set basically gives heavy armor users something equal to/better than one of the best stam dps sets in medium.

    7th needs the Viper’s Sting/Red Mountain Blackrose treatment. The “oh ones, my gold tempers” argument is not viable for something that has been so clearly over performing for so long.

    Edit: it’s actually OK to have a super tanks build with a short window of high DPS so long as it is reactive (something that triggers somewhat randomly) and not proactive (something that they can activate on demand). - Balancing 101

    350 weapon damage is not a crazy high amount. You can get 300 WD at 100% uptime with Hunding's Rage, the downside there however is it's only a one bar set, but a lot of the arena weapons are useless in the current meta so one bar sets are less important.

    master great axe with Cleave is still a beautiful thing.
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    March 2021 (too lazy to add CP) PvP: Medium DW/Bow The Stabber
  • Royalthought
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    akray21 wrote: »
    Vortigaunt wrote: »
    Vortigaunt wrote: »
    Lord_Eomer wrote: »
    jaws343 wrote: »
    Lord_Eomer wrote: »
    Why Rip stam sorc? Hurricane is an ability not passive

    Because, in order to keep a high uptime on the set, you have to continuously cast Hurricane, before it fully ramps up in damage.

    Hurricane is not high cast ability and getting set proc on demand is something very useful.

    This is simply lame excuse, this set will perform much better on Stam Sorc with Troll King!

    Its NB who suffer only!

    Yea. its pretty unreasonable to not allow it to proc of a passive from a casted ability. They know thats how nightblades were designed to get there limited duration of major resolve.

    This was a nerf that targeted nightblades specifically.

    Bad decision

    Boohoo stamblades can’t do something and now they are sad because they don’t get to have everything like always. Get used to it. Play a stam sorc next time you complain about stamblades.

    I do. Hurricane works just fine. Great class.

    Something you care to add?

    So you use your only class dot and highest pressure ability to trigger your main damage set, which runs out just when your class dot is about to ramp up and do some decent damage.

    Are you trolling? Nobody can be this delusional
    akray21 wrote: »
    Vortigaunt wrote: »
    Vortigaunt wrote: »
    Lord_Eomer wrote: »
    jaws343 wrote: »
    Lord_Eomer wrote: »
    Why Rip stam sorc? Hurricane is an ability not passive

    Because, in order to keep a high uptime on the set, you have to continuously cast Hurricane, before it fully ramps up in damage.

    Hurricane is not high cast ability and getting set proc on demand is something very useful.

    This is simply lame excuse, this set will perform much better on Stam Sorc with Troll King!

    Its NB who suffer only!

    Yea. its pretty unreasonable to not allow it to proc of a passive from a casted ability. They know thats how nightblades were designed to get there limited duration of major resolve.

    This was a nerf that targeted nightblades specifically.

    Bad decision

    Boohoo stamblades can’t do something and now they are sad because they don’t get to have everything like always. Get used to it. Play a stam sorc next time you complain about stamblades.

    I do. Hurricane works just fine. Great class.

    Something you care to add?

    So you use your only class dot and highest pressure ability to trigger your main damage set, which runs out just when your class dot is about to ramp up and do some decent damage.

    Are you trolling? Nobody can be this delusional

    People act like they play a class when posting on the forums. All these people acting like they play stamsorc yet I see very few around PvP.

    So you would rather hurricane NOT proc at all?

    That's whats being suggested for the Nightblades design.

    Grass is always greener huh? People act like... Get over yourself. I don't like how the buff runs out before hurricane hits its peak potential but that doesn't change the fact it still procs it.

    That's what this discussion is about.

    My two main classes in PvP are stamsorc and stamblade. My stamblade is currently running 7th on live and will not even be able to run 7th at all with these changes.

    As for my stamsorc I don't see it as a good choice. Hurricane is already an underpowered DOT, why would I want to make it even weaker by using 7th over a different damage set? I might as well decon the set at this point.

    And I created this thread, so I think I know what this discussion is about... 😉

    This discussion =/= Thread.

    Your response pertained to "people acting like they play a class."

    We can build on what should happen with the set. That's cool.

    But you creating a thread wont validate you making false accusations about people not playing a class.

    I'm not a fan of 7th dropping the process partway through hurricane either. And to completely remove the nightblades chosen design from synergizing with the set is meanspirited.

    It wasn't an either or from me. More like bad and worse.
  • MincVinyl
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    Why would a heavy stamblade run seventh tho, you will get more just from running fury and ravager now?
  • Vortigaunt
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    Vortigaunt wrote: »
    Vortigaunt wrote: »
    Lord_Eomer wrote: »
    jaws343 wrote: »
    Lord_Eomer wrote: »
    Why Rip stam sorc? Hurricane is an ability not passive

    Because, in order to keep a high uptime on the set, you have to continuously cast Hurricane, before it fully ramps up in damage.

    Hurricane is not high cast ability and getting set proc on demand is something very useful.

    This is simply lame excuse, this set will perform much better on Stam Sorc with Troll King!

    Its NB who suffer only!

    Yea. its pretty unreasonable to not allow it to proc of a passive from a casted ability. They know thats how nightblades were designed to get there limited duration of major resolve.

    This was a nerf that targeted nightblades specifically.

    Bad decision

    Boohoo stamblades can’t do something and now they are sad because they don’t get to have everything like always. Get used to it. Play a stam sorc next time you complain about stamblades.

    I do. Hurricane works just fine. Great class.

    Something you care to add?

    So you use your only class dot and highest pressure ability to trigger your main damage set, which runs out just when your class dot is about to ramp up and do some decent damage.

    Are you trolling? Nobody can be this delusional
    akray21 wrote: »
    Vortigaunt wrote: »
    Vortigaunt wrote: »
    Lord_Eomer wrote: »
    jaws343 wrote: »
    Lord_Eomer wrote: »
    Why Rip stam sorc? Hurricane is an ability not passive

    Because, in order to keep a high uptime on the set, you have to continuously cast Hurricane, before it fully ramps up in damage.

    Hurricane is not high cast ability and getting set proc on demand is something very useful.

    This is simply lame excuse, this set will perform much better on Stam Sorc with Troll King!

    Its NB who suffer only!

    Yea. its pretty unreasonable to not allow it to proc of a passive from a casted ability. They know thats how nightblades were designed to get there limited duration of major resolve.

    This was a nerf that targeted nightblades specifically.

    Bad decision

    Boohoo stamblades can’t do something and now they are sad because they don’t get to have everything like always. Get used to it. Play a stam sorc next time you complain about stamblades.

    I do. Hurricane works just fine. Great class.

    Something you care to add?

    So you use your only class dot and highest pressure ability to trigger your main damage set, which runs out just when your class dot is about to ramp up and do some decent damage.

    Are you trolling? Nobody can be this delusional

    People act like they play a class when posting on the forums. All these people acting like they play stamsorc yet I see very few around PvP.

    So you would rather hurricane NOT proc at all?

    That's whats being suggested for the Nightblades design.

    Grass is always greener huh? People act like... Get over yourself. I don't like how the buff runs out before hurricane hits its peak potential but that doesn't change the fact it still procs it.

    That's what this discussion is about.
    It’s irrelevant if it procs it if you don’t have it up when you do your actual damage.
  • Royalthought
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    Vortigaunt wrote: »
    Vortigaunt wrote: »
    Vortigaunt wrote: »
    Lord_Eomer wrote: »
    jaws343 wrote: »
    Lord_Eomer wrote: »
    Why Rip stam sorc? Hurricane is an ability not passive

    Because, in order to keep a high uptime on the set, you have to continuously cast Hurricane, before it fully ramps up in damage.

    Hurricane is not high cast ability and getting set proc on demand is something very useful.

    This is simply lame excuse, this set will perform much better on Stam Sorc with Troll King!

    Its NB who suffer only!

    Yea. its pretty unreasonable to not allow it to proc of a passive from a casted ability. They know thats how nightblades were designed to get there limited duration of major resolve.

    This was a nerf that targeted nightblades specifically.

    Bad decision

    Boohoo stamblades can’t do something and now they are sad because they don’t get to have everything like always. Get used to it. Play a stam sorc next time you complain about stamblades.

    I do. Hurricane works just fine. Great class.

    Something you care to add?

    So you use your only class dot and highest pressure ability to trigger your main damage set, which runs out just when your class dot is about to ramp up and do some decent damage.

    Are you trolling? Nobody can be this delusional
    akray21 wrote: »
    Vortigaunt wrote: »
    Vortigaunt wrote: »
    Lord_Eomer wrote: »
    jaws343 wrote: »
    Lord_Eomer wrote: »
    Why Rip stam sorc? Hurricane is an ability not passive

    Because, in order to keep a high uptime on the set, you have to continuously cast Hurricane, before it fully ramps up in damage.

    Hurricane is not high cast ability and getting set proc on demand is something very useful.

    This is simply lame excuse, this set will perform much better on Stam Sorc with Troll King!

    Its NB who suffer only!

    Yea. its pretty unreasonable to not allow it to proc of a passive from a casted ability. They know thats how nightblades were designed to get there limited duration of major resolve.

    This was a nerf that targeted nightblades specifically.

    Bad decision

    Boohoo stamblades can’t do something and now they are sad because they don’t get to have everything like always. Get used to it. Play a stam sorc next time you complain about stamblades.

    I do. Hurricane works just fine. Great class.

    Something you care to add?

    So you use your only class dot and highest pressure ability to trigger your main damage set, which runs out just when your class dot is about to ramp up and do some decent damage.

    Are you trolling? Nobody can be this delusional

    People act like they play a class when posting on the forums. All these people acting like they play stamsorc yet I see very few around PvP.

    So you would rather hurricane NOT proc at all?

    That's whats being suggested for the Nightblades design.

    Grass is always greener huh? People act like... Get over yourself. I don't like how the buff runs out before hurricane hits its peak potential but that doesn't change the fact it still procs it.

    That's what this discussion is about.
    It’s irrelevant if it procs it if you don’t have it up when you do your actual damage.

    Huh? So... What's your point of quoting me with that?

    Changing it so nightblades entire shadow line don't proc it was my issue.

    My request is the abilities proc it when they buff resistance.

    It's proc duration being shorter than hurricane is your issue.

    What is it you're after?
    Edited by Royalthought on July 18, 2019 10:52PM
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