Royalthought wrote: »Vortigaunt wrote: »Royalthought wrote: »Lord_Eomer wrote: »Lord_Eomer wrote: »Why Rip stam sorc? Hurricane is an ability not passive
Because, in order to keep a high uptime on the set, you have to continuously cast Hurricane, before it fully ramps up in damage.
Hurricane is not high cast ability and getting set proc on demand is something very useful.
This is simply lame excuse, this set will perform much better on Stam Sorc with Troll King!
Its NB who suffer only!
Yea. its pretty unreasonable to not allow it to proc of a passive from a casted ability. They know thats how nightblades were designed to get there limited duration of major resolve.
This was a nerf that targeted nightblades specifically.
Bad decision
Boohoo stamblades can’t do something and now they are sad because they don’t get to have everything like always. Get used to it. Play a stam sorc next time you complain about stamblades.
I do. Hurricane works just fine. Great class.
Something you care to add?
universal_wrath wrote: »Royalthought wrote: »Vortigaunt wrote: »Royalthought wrote: »Lord_Eomer wrote: »Lord_Eomer wrote: »Why Rip stam sorc? Hurricane is an ability not passive
Because, in order to keep a high uptime on the set, you have to continuously cast Hurricane, before it fully ramps up in damage.
Hurricane is not high cast ability and getting set proc on demand is something very useful.
This is simply lame excuse, this set will perform much better on Stam Sorc with Troll King!
Its NB who suffer only!
Yea. its pretty unreasonable to not allow it to proc of a passive from a casted ability. They know thats how nightblades were designed to get there limited duration of major resolve.
This was a nerf that targeted nightblades specifically.
Bad decision
Boohoo stamblades can’t do something and now they are sad because they don’t get to have everything like always. Get used to it. Play a stam sorc next time you complain about stamblades.
I do. Hurricane works just fine. Great class.
Something you care to add?
Hurricanes sucks ass, bad visuals and audio. Also bad mechanics of skill, 150% on last 1 tick. Can we plsea return the 250% dmg boost but increase skill to 25 secs? This should help a bit, also minor expidiotion is not special to stam sorc anymore. Stam sorcs is not fast anymore, other classes have easy access to major expedition or heavy snares making stam sorc a fat runner. Last thing, stam sorc is not a class anymore, it's a test dummy. You try stam sorc for anything, if it work fine, it will do great on other classes.
Did seventh stacked before pts changes? Like with 2 seconds cooldown, did weapon damage stacked?
DisgracefulMind wrote: »Nightblades having one set inaccessible to them because of their OP passive armor buff on skills they commonly use is completely fine and balanced imo. Passive armor buff is already incredibly OP as is. It's okay, nightblades, to have something that goes against that.
Royalthought wrote: »Vortigaunt wrote: »Royalthought wrote: »Lord_Eomer wrote: »Lord_Eomer wrote: »Why Rip stam sorc? Hurricane is an ability not passive
Because, in order to keep a high uptime on the set, you have to continuously cast Hurricane, before it fully ramps up in damage.
Hurricane is not high cast ability and getting set proc on demand is something very useful.
This is simply lame excuse, this set will perform much better on Stam Sorc with Troll King!
Its NB who suffer only!
Yea. its pretty unreasonable to not allow it to proc of a passive from a casted ability. They know thats how nightblades were designed to get there limited duration of major resolve.
This was a nerf that targeted nightblades specifically.
Bad decision
Boohoo stamblades can’t do something and now they are sad because they don’t get to have everything like always. Get used to it. Play a stam sorc next time you complain about stamblades.
I do. Hurricane works just fine. Great class.
Something you care to add?
Vortigaunt wrote: »Royalthought wrote: »Vortigaunt wrote: »Royalthought wrote: »Lord_Eomer wrote: »Lord_Eomer wrote: »Why Rip stam sorc? Hurricane is an ability not passive
Because, in order to keep a high uptime on the set, you have to continuously cast Hurricane, before it fully ramps up in damage.
Hurricane is not high cast ability and getting set proc on demand is something very useful.
This is simply lame excuse, this set will perform much better on Stam Sorc with Troll King!
Its NB who suffer only!
Yea. its pretty unreasonable to not allow it to proc of a passive from a casted ability. They know thats how nightblades were designed to get there limited duration of major resolve.
This was a nerf that targeted nightblades specifically.
Bad decision
Boohoo stamblades can’t do something and now they are sad because they don’t get to have everything like always. Get used to it. Play a stam sorc next time you complain about stamblades.
I do. Hurricane works just fine. Great class.
Something you care to add?
So you use your only class dot and highest pressure ability to trigger your main damage set, which runs out just when your class dot is about to ramp up and do some decent damage.
Are you trolling? Nobody can be this delusional
DisgracefulMind wrote: »Nightblades having one set inaccessible to them because of their OP passive armor buff on skills they commonly use is completely fine and balanced imo. Passive armor buff is already incredibly OP as is. It's okay, nightblades, to have something that goes against that.
Vortigaunt wrote: »Royalthought wrote: »Vortigaunt wrote: »Royalthought wrote: »Lord_Eomer wrote: »Lord_Eomer wrote: »Why Rip stam sorc? Hurricane is an ability not passive
Because, in order to keep a high uptime on the set, you have to continuously cast Hurricane, before it fully ramps up in damage.
Hurricane is not high cast ability and getting set proc on demand is something very useful.
This is simply lame excuse, this set will perform much better on Stam Sorc with Troll King!
Its NB who suffer only!
Yea. its pretty unreasonable to not allow it to proc of a passive from a casted ability. They know thats how nightblades were designed to get there limited duration of major resolve.
This was a nerf that targeted nightblades specifically.
Bad decision
Boohoo stamblades can’t do something and now they are sad because they don’t get to have everything like always. Get used to it. Play a stam sorc next time you complain about stamblades.
I do. Hurricane works just fine. Great class.
Something you care to add?
So you use your only class dot and highest pressure ability to trigger your main damage set, which runs out just when your class dot is about to ramp up and do some decent damage.
Are you trolling? Nobody can be this delusional
Vortigaunt wrote: »Royalthought wrote: »Vortigaunt wrote: »Royalthought wrote: »Lord_Eomer wrote: »Lord_Eomer wrote: »Why Rip stam sorc? Hurricane is an ability not passive
Because, in order to keep a high uptime on the set, you have to continuously cast Hurricane, before it fully ramps up in damage.
Hurricane is not high cast ability and getting set proc on demand is something very useful.
This is simply lame excuse, this set will perform much better on Stam Sorc with Troll King!
Its NB who suffer only!
Yea. its pretty unreasonable to not allow it to proc of a passive from a casted ability. They know thats how nightblades were designed to get there limited duration of major resolve.
This was a nerf that targeted nightblades specifically.
Bad decision
Boohoo stamblades can’t do something and now they are sad because they don’t get to have everything like always. Get used to it. Play a stam sorc next time you complain about stamblades.
I do. Hurricane works just fine. Great class.
Something you care to add?
So you use your only class dot and highest pressure ability to trigger your main damage set, which runs out just when your class dot is about to ramp up and do some decent damage.
Are you trolling? Nobody can be this delusional
People act like they play a class when posting on the forums. All these people acting like they play stamsorc yet I see very few around PvP.
Royalthought wrote: »Vortigaunt wrote: »Royalthought wrote: »Vortigaunt wrote: »Royalthought wrote: »Lord_Eomer wrote: »Lord_Eomer wrote: »Why Rip stam sorc? Hurricane is an ability not passive
Because, in order to keep a high uptime on the set, you have to continuously cast Hurricane, before it fully ramps up in damage.
Hurricane is not high cast ability and getting set proc on demand is something very useful.
This is simply lame excuse, this set will perform much better on Stam Sorc with Troll King!
Its NB who suffer only!
Yea. its pretty unreasonable to not allow it to proc of a passive from a casted ability. They know thats how nightblades were designed to get there limited duration of major resolve.
This was a nerf that targeted nightblades specifically.
Bad decision
Boohoo stamblades can’t do something and now they are sad because they don’t get to have everything like always. Get used to it. Play a stam sorc next time you complain about stamblades.
I do. Hurricane works just fine. Great class.
Something you care to add?
So you use your only class dot and highest pressure ability to trigger your main damage set, which runs out just when your class dot is about to ramp up and do some decent damage.
Are you trolling? Nobody can be this delusionalVortigaunt wrote: »Royalthought wrote: »Vortigaunt wrote: »Royalthought wrote: »Lord_Eomer wrote: »Lord_Eomer wrote: »Why Rip stam sorc? Hurricane is an ability not passive
Because, in order to keep a high uptime on the set, you have to continuously cast Hurricane, before it fully ramps up in damage.
Hurricane is not high cast ability and getting set proc on demand is something very useful.
This is simply lame excuse, this set will perform much better on Stam Sorc with Troll King!
Its NB who suffer only!
Yea. its pretty unreasonable to not allow it to proc of a passive from a casted ability. They know thats how nightblades were designed to get there limited duration of major resolve.
This was a nerf that targeted nightblades specifically.
Bad decision
Boohoo stamblades can’t do something and now they are sad because they don’t get to have everything like always. Get used to it. Play a stam sorc next time you complain about stamblades.
I do. Hurricane works just fine. Great class.
Something you care to add?
So you use your only class dot and highest pressure ability to trigger your main damage set, which runs out just when your class dot is about to ramp up and do some decent damage.
Are you trolling? Nobody can be this delusional
People act like they play a class when posting on the forums. All these people acting like they play stamsorc yet I see very few around PvP.
So you would rather hurricane NOT proc at all?
That's whats being suggested for the Nightblades design.
Grass is always greener huh? People act like... Get over yourself. I don't like how the buff runs out before hurricane hits its peak potential but that doesn't change the fact it still procs it.
That's what this discussion is about.
jediodyn_ESO wrote: »This set shouldn’t be something that you can activate on demand.
Stop coddling this awful playstyle. Heavy armor should mean low output damage, but very hard to kill.
Current PTS version of this set basically gives heavy armor users something equal to/better than one of the best stam dps sets in medium.
7th needs the Viper’s Sting/Red Mountain Blackrose treatment. The “oh ones, my gold tempers” argument is not viable for something that has been so clearly over performing for so long.
Edit: it’s actually OK to have a super tanks build with a short window of high DPS so long as it is reactive (something that triggers somewhat randomly) and not proactive (something that they can activate on demand). - Balancing 101
jediodyn_ESO wrote: »This set shouldn’t be something that you can activate on demand.
Stop coddling this awful playstyle. Heavy armor should mean low output damage, but very hard to kill.
Current PTS version of this set basically gives heavy armor users something equal to/better than one of the best stam dps sets in medium.
7th needs the Viper’s Sting/Red Mountain Blackrose treatment. The “oh ones, my gold tempers” argument is not viable for something that has been so clearly over performing for so long.
Edit: it’s actually OK to have a super tanks build with a short window of high DPS so long as it is reactive (something that triggers somewhat randomly) and not proactive (something that they can activate on demand). - Balancing 101
jediodyn_ESO wrote: »This set shouldn’t be something that you can activate on demand.
Stop coddling this awful playstyle. Heavy armor should mean low output damage, but very hard to kill.
Current PTS version of this set basically gives heavy armor users something equal to/better than one of the best stam dps sets in medium.
7th needs the Viper’s Sting/Red Mountain Blackrose treatment. The “oh ones, my gold tempers” argument is not viable for something that has been so clearly over performing for so long.
Edit: it’s actually OK to have a super tanks build with a short window of high DPS so long as it is reactive (something that triggers somewhat randomly) and not proactive (something that they can activate on demand). - Balancing 101
350 weapon damage is not a crazy high amount. You can get 300 WD at 100% uptime with Hunding's Rage, the downside there however is it's only a one bar set, but a lot of the arena weapons are useless in the current meta so one bar sets are less important.
Royalthought wrote: »Vortigaunt wrote: »Royalthought wrote: »Vortigaunt wrote: »Royalthought wrote: »Lord_Eomer wrote: »Lord_Eomer wrote: »Why Rip stam sorc? Hurricane is an ability not passive
Because, in order to keep a high uptime on the set, you have to continuously cast Hurricane, before it fully ramps up in damage.
Hurricane is not high cast ability and getting set proc on demand is something very useful.
This is simply lame excuse, this set will perform much better on Stam Sorc with Troll King!
Its NB who suffer only!
Yea. its pretty unreasonable to not allow it to proc of a passive from a casted ability. They know thats how nightblades were designed to get there limited duration of major resolve.
This was a nerf that targeted nightblades specifically.
Bad decision
Boohoo stamblades can’t do something and now they are sad because they don’t get to have everything like always. Get used to it. Play a stam sorc next time you complain about stamblades.
I do. Hurricane works just fine. Great class.
Something you care to add?
So you use your only class dot and highest pressure ability to trigger your main damage set, which runs out just when your class dot is about to ramp up and do some decent damage.
Are you trolling? Nobody can be this delusionalVortigaunt wrote: »Royalthought wrote: »Vortigaunt wrote: »Royalthought wrote: »Lord_Eomer wrote: »Lord_Eomer wrote: »Why Rip stam sorc? Hurricane is an ability not passive
Because, in order to keep a high uptime on the set, you have to continuously cast Hurricane, before it fully ramps up in damage.
Hurricane is not high cast ability and getting set proc on demand is something very useful.
This is simply lame excuse, this set will perform much better on Stam Sorc with Troll King!
Its NB who suffer only!
Yea. its pretty unreasonable to not allow it to proc of a passive from a casted ability. They know thats how nightblades were designed to get there limited duration of major resolve.
This was a nerf that targeted nightblades specifically.
Bad decision
Boohoo stamblades can’t do something and now they are sad because they don’t get to have everything like always. Get used to it. Play a stam sorc next time you complain about stamblades.
I do. Hurricane works just fine. Great class.
Something you care to add?
So you use your only class dot and highest pressure ability to trigger your main damage set, which runs out just when your class dot is about to ramp up and do some decent damage.
Are you trolling? Nobody can be this delusional
People act like they play a class when posting on the forums. All these people acting like they play stamsorc yet I see very few around PvP.
So you would rather hurricane NOT proc at all?
That's whats being suggested for the Nightblades design.
Grass is always greener huh? People act like... Get over yourself. I don't like how the buff runs out before hurricane hits its peak potential but that doesn't change the fact it still procs it.
That's what this discussion is about.
My two main classes in PvP are stamsorc and stamblade. My stamblade is currently running 7th on live and will not even be able to run 7th at all with these changes.
As for my stamsorc I don't see it as a good choice. Hurricane is already an underpowered DOT, why would I want to make it even weaker by using 7th over a different damage set? I might as well decon the set at this point.
And I created this thread, so I think I know what this discussion is about... 😉
It’s irrelevant if it procs it if you don’t have it up when you do your actual damage.Royalthought wrote: »Vortigaunt wrote: »Royalthought wrote: »Vortigaunt wrote: »Royalthought wrote: »Lord_Eomer wrote: »Lord_Eomer wrote: »Why Rip stam sorc? Hurricane is an ability not passive
Because, in order to keep a high uptime on the set, you have to continuously cast Hurricane, before it fully ramps up in damage.
Hurricane is not high cast ability and getting set proc on demand is something very useful.
This is simply lame excuse, this set will perform much better on Stam Sorc with Troll King!
Its NB who suffer only!
Yea. its pretty unreasonable to not allow it to proc of a passive from a casted ability. They know thats how nightblades were designed to get there limited duration of major resolve.
This was a nerf that targeted nightblades specifically.
Bad decision
Boohoo stamblades can’t do something and now they are sad because they don’t get to have everything like always. Get used to it. Play a stam sorc next time you complain about stamblades.
I do. Hurricane works just fine. Great class.
Something you care to add?
So you use your only class dot and highest pressure ability to trigger your main damage set, which runs out just when your class dot is about to ramp up and do some decent damage.
Are you trolling? Nobody can be this delusionalVortigaunt wrote: »Royalthought wrote: »Vortigaunt wrote: »Royalthought wrote: »Lord_Eomer wrote: »Lord_Eomer wrote: »Why Rip stam sorc? Hurricane is an ability not passive
Because, in order to keep a high uptime on the set, you have to continuously cast Hurricane, before it fully ramps up in damage.
Hurricane is not high cast ability and getting set proc on demand is something very useful.
This is simply lame excuse, this set will perform much better on Stam Sorc with Troll King!
Its NB who suffer only!
Yea. its pretty unreasonable to not allow it to proc of a passive from a casted ability. They know thats how nightblades were designed to get there limited duration of major resolve.
This was a nerf that targeted nightblades specifically.
Bad decision
Boohoo stamblades can’t do something and now they are sad because they don’t get to have everything like always. Get used to it. Play a stam sorc next time you complain about stamblades.
I do. Hurricane works just fine. Great class.
Something you care to add?
So you use your only class dot and highest pressure ability to trigger your main damage set, which runs out just when your class dot is about to ramp up and do some decent damage.
Are you trolling? Nobody can be this delusional
People act like they play a class when posting on the forums. All these people acting like they play stamsorc yet I see very few around PvP.
So you would rather hurricane NOT proc at all?
That's whats being suggested for the Nightblades design.
Grass is always greener huh? People act like... Get over yourself. I don't like how the buff runs out before hurricane hits its peak potential but that doesn't change the fact it still procs it.
That's what this discussion is about.
Vortigaunt wrote: »It’s irrelevant if it procs it if you don’t have it up when you do your actual damage.Royalthought wrote: »Vortigaunt wrote: »Royalthought wrote: »Vortigaunt wrote: »Royalthought wrote: »Lord_Eomer wrote: »Lord_Eomer wrote: »Why Rip stam sorc? Hurricane is an ability not passive
Because, in order to keep a high uptime on the set, you have to continuously cast Hurricane, before it fully ramps up in damage.
Hurricane is not high cast ability and getting set proc on demand is something very useful.
This is simply lame excuse, this set will perform much better on Stam Sorc with Troll King!
Its NB who suffer only!
Yea. its pretty unreasonable to not allow it to proc of a passive from a casted ability. They know thats how nightblades were designed to get there limited duration of major resolve.
This was a nerf that targeted nightblades specifically.
Bad decision
Boohoo stamblades can’t do something and now they are sad because they don’t get to have everything like always. Get used to it. Play a stam sorc next time you complain about stamblades.
I do. Hurricane works just fine. Great class.
Something you care to add?
So you use your only class dot and highest pressure ability to trigger your main damage set, which runs out just when your class dot is about to ramp up and do some decent damage.
Are you trolling? Nobody can be this delusionalVortigaunt wrote: »Royalthought wrote: »Vortigaunt wrote: »Royalthought wrote: »Lord_Eomer wrote: »Lord_Eomer wrote: »Why Rip stam sorc? Hurricane is an ability not passive
Because, in order to keep a high uptime on the set, you have to continuously cast Hurricane, before it fully ramps up in damage.
Hurricane is not high cast ability and getting set proc on demand is something very useful.
This is simply lame excuse, this set will perform much better on Stam Sorc with Troll King!
Its NB who suffer only!
Yea. its pretty unreasonable to not allow it to proc of a passive from a casted ability. They know thats how nightblades were designed to get there limited duration of major resolve.
This was a nerf that targeted nightblades specifically.
Bad decision
Boohoo stamblades can’t do something and now they are sad because they don’t get to have everything like always. Get used to it. Play a stam sorc next time you complain about stamblades.
I do. Hurricane works just fine. Great class.
Something you care to add?
So you use your only class dot and highest pressure ability to trigger your main damage set, which runs out just when your class dot is about to ramp up and do some decent damage.
Are you trolling? Nobody can be this delusional
People act like they play a class when posting on the forums. All these people acting like they play stamsorc yet I see very few around PvP.
So you would rather hurricane NOT proc at all?
That's whats being suggested for the Nightblades design.
Grass is always greener huh? People act like... Get over yourself. I don't like how the buff runs out before hurricane hits its peak potential but that doesn't change the fact it still procs it.
That's what this discussion is about.