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Pet Sorcs got gutted ...
SirAndy
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Shields: 20% duration nerf, 30% cost increase
Pets: 35%-70% damage nerf, 15% healing nerf
Liquid Lightning: 40% damage nerf
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Deathlord92✭✭✭✭✭
✭Pet sorcs was well over performing I don’t want them gutted but they did need slight nerfs.9 -
StormChaser3000✭✭✭✭✭
✭What? Again?
Are they trying to make more people play new class or what?Edited by StormChaser3000 on July 6, 2019 6:13PM20 -
Neoealth✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Say it aint so...
They only just gave us pet sorcs the ability to do decent damage. Give with one hand and take it away with another.13 -
Seraphayel✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭PetSorcs were absolutely overperforming in PvP and this nerf to their defensive capabilities was necessary.
By the way the Liquid Lightning nerf can be ignored because every AoE DoT was nerfed.Edited by Seraphayel on July 6, 2019 6:21PMPS5EUAldmeri Dominion- Khajiit Arcanist -27 -
ZonasArch✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Let's wait until Monday before the prophets start calling the end of the world, please?
This could very very well be fake.... Looks like it, btw. Quality troll.4 -
shimm✭✭✭✭✭StormChaser3000 wrote: »What? Again?
Are they trying to make more people play new class or what?
Not sure about pve but they may be trying to get people to play ANY other class in pvp!2 -
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Of course they look like the real notes. Wouldn't be a very good troll attempt if they were obvious fakes.4 -
mikemacon✭✭✭✭✭Wow.
I didn’t know it was Monday yet and the patch had dropped for PTS.
Take a deep breath, find your center, and repeat after me: ALLEGED “leaked” patch notes.
Way too early to start panicking.4 -
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✭✭Deathlord92 wrote: »Pet sorcs was well over performing I don’t want them gutted but they did need slight nerfs.
But liquid lightning also nerf non pet sorc5 -
iCaliban✭✭✭✭✭
✭Why are they nerfing pve so much? (these arent pvp nerfs, pet sorc cheese will be the same regardless, because the real issue is LOS)9 -
Priyasekarssk✭✭✭✭✭Shields: 20% duration nerf, 30% cost increase
Pets: 35%-70% damage nerf, 15% healing nerf
Liquid Lightning: 40% damage nerf
I wont be surprised. This is what noobs and streamers want. Kills with out resistance or counter play. I'm am pretty sure AD will be door gated and permanent third position. Orcs and DC races ,stam sorcs will have buffs to insanity.
Fellow gamers. My sincere advice is never play AD. Never ever make AD character.
Avoid AD at all costs. AD races too.
AD is only meant to be potatoes with potatoe races easy to get steam rolled and killed easily. Just make a DC or ep character with tanky race and run behind streamers and some are zos employees.
Easiest and quickest way to get lot of aps in short time and make your life easier.
Remember necro bash shouldn't have existed. Zos made it only to appease and easy group kills.
Bunch of noob exploiters are top PVP
Players of eso.
Great way to promote eso.
Welcome to permanent emperor and permanent gating. New form of balanced eso PVP.
Edited by Priyasekarssk on July 6, 2019 8:53PM8 -
Savos_Saren✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Priyasekarssk wrote: »Shields: 20% duration nerf, 30% cost increase
Pets: 35%-70% damage nerf, 15% healing nerf
Liquid Lightning: 40% damage nerf
I wont be surprised. This is what noobs and streamers want. Kills with out resistance or counter play. I'm am pretty sure AD will be door gated and permanent third position. Orcs and DC races stam sorcs will have buffs too.
Fellow gamers. My sincere advice is never play AD. Never ever make AD character.
AD is only meant to be potatoes with potatoe races easy to get steam rolled and killed easily. Just make a DC or ep character with tanky race and run behind streamers and some are zos employees.
Easiest and quickest way to get lot of aps.
Remember necro bash shouldn't have existed. Zos made it only to appease and easy group kills.
Bunch of noob exploiters are top PVP
Players of eso.
Great way to promote eso.
Welcome to permanent emperor and permanent gating. New form of balanced eso PVP.
Um... AD has all classes and races. From my experience- EP runs more DKs, DC runs more Sorcs, and AD runs more NBs.
AD is gated more because NBs rather stealth and gank than to push North.Want to enjoy the game more? Try both PvP (crybabies) and PvE (carebears). You'll get a better perspective on everyone's opinion.
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✭Lol who can say that magicka is overperforming? Totally bias comment there...
I don't understand this hatred over magicka but after reading the overall notes I think they're draining power from class and AOE skills and adding it DOT damage? Also unstable wall damage got buffedPC/DC/NAserver
V16 sorc - V16 temp - V16 dk - V1 nb - V1 temp - V1 dk3 -
Priyasekarssk✭✭✭✭✭Savos_Saren wrote: »Priyasekarssk wrote: »Shields: 20% duration nerf, 30% cost increase
Pets: 35%-70% damage nerf, 15% healing nerf
Liquid Lightning: 40% damage nerf
I wont be surprised. This is what noobs and streamers want. Kills with out resistance or counter play. I'm am pretty sure AD will be door gated and permanent third position. Orcs and DC races stam sorcs will have buffs too.
Fellow gamers. My sincere advice is never play AD. Never ever make AD character.
AD is only meant to be potatoes with potatoe races easy to get steam rolled and killed easily. Just make a DC or ep character with tanky race and run behind streamers and some are zos employees.
Easiest and quickest way to get lot of aps.
Remember necro bash shouldn't have existed. Zos made it only to appease and easy group kills.
Bunch of noob exploiters are top PVP
Players of eso.
Great way to promote eso.
Welcome to permanent emperor and permanent gating. New form of balanced eso PVP.
Um... AD has all classes and races. From my experience- EP runs more DKs, DC runs more Sorcs, and AD runs more NBs.
AD is gated more because NBs rather stealth and gank than to push North.
Nah. AD usually had more mage sorcs in high elf. They are the ones who carried the eagle flag for long time. Alliance will be neck to neck in scores. Difference between the leading alliance and the lowest alliance will be no more than 20 percent in any time.
DC only have Orcs with breton healers in the back. Mage sorcs DC are rare. You are wrong in stats.Edited by Priyasekarssk on July 6, 2019 9:11PM0 -
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✭✭Priyasekarssk wrote: »Shields: 20% duration nerf, 30% cost increase
Pets: 35%-70% damage nerf, 15% healing nerf
Liquid Lightning: 40% damage nerf
I wont be surprised. This is what noobs and streamers want. Kills with out resistance or counter play. I'm am pretty sure AD will be door gated and permanent third position. Orcs and DC races ,stam sorcs will have buffs to insanity.
Fellow gamers. My sincere advice is never play AD. Never ever make AD character.
Avoid AD at all costs. AD races too.
AD is only meant to be potatoes with potatoe races easy to get steam rolled and killed easily. Just make a DC or ep character with tanky race and run behind streamers and some are zos employees.
Easiest and quickest way to get lot of aps in short time and make your life easier.
Remember necro bash shouldn't have existed. Zos made it only to appease and easy group kills.
Bunch of noob exploiters are top PVP
Players of eso.
Great way to promote eso.
Welcome to permanent emperor and permanent gating. New form of balanced eso PVP.
Where do you play? On my server/region/campaign AD is top dog every week, with rare exceptions. EP is worthless and DC zergling fest.
I guess it varies from platform, server and campaign you play.0 -
crowfl56✭✭✭✭✭They only way EP or DC get anything is population.
They both have a few quality pvp players and they are tough
AD has so many more quality pvp players, but they have to WORK, so they don't spend 24/7 in game.
Now the old term and constant excuse is " Game Mechanic's " or how can I EXPLOIT this ability, or armor ?
No defending it and the more they try and defend their secret build, the more they look all that more quilty.
Few are just great players, but not all.
But all in all pvp is great fun, enjoy it and don't whine about this change or that change, it happens to all classes.
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[snip] Ill never understand why so many players are like this. I'm not a fan of sorcs at all, but pointless garbage nerfs aren't healthy for the game or good for anyone. But this is what zos does, instead of small changes over time.
As a solo player I particularly dislike pet sorcs (or sorcs with the twilight, that i'm well aware they pretty much need to run atm). I always run into a problem pet sorc that is a pain in the ass to kill because while I fight their friend(s) they sit in the back aidsing me down with frags, curses, and executes, while pretty much being a tank. 2 shields, a ridiculous heal, and streak if they get it trouble. Ya they're annoying, but id rather keep them than see anything else get nerfed in this damn game.Shields: 20% duration nerf, 30% cost increase
Pets: 35%-70% damage nerf, 15% healing nerf
Liquid Lightning: 40% damage nerf
I imagine ill get some [snip] for this, but tell me something. Why is hardened ward so important for mag sorcs? I've seen mag blades, mag dks, and magdens, that hit like trucks and are extremely tanky with just harness. Sorcs are the same way, except they are more tanky with the extra shield. Add to that the twilight and streak and its a tough fight.
The lighting and pet damage nerf seems like overkill. Like i said above I dont want nerfs but im just curious if the shield nerf would be that bad. At least when it comes to harden. Its been a long time since ive played any mag build, probably at least a year, so thats why I ask. Its much different with resistances now with armor master necro builds, etc.Edited by ZOS_GregoryV on July 8, 2019 6:45PM3 -
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@eso_lagsI imagine ill get some *** for this, but tell me something. Why is hardened ward so important for mag sorcs?
Because there's more to ESO than just PvP.
I use my Mag Pet Sorc to solo group vet dungeons and run vMA.
The shields are essential for a light armor build in those scenarios. Without them my build won't work.
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@eso_lagsI imagine ill get some *** for this, but tell me something. Why is hardened ward so important for mag sorcs?
Because there's more to ESO than just PvP.
I use my Mag Pet Sorc to solo group vet dungeons and run vMA.
The shields are essential for a light armor build in those scenarios. Without them my build won't work.
For the bolded part: That’s why some builds are being nerfed.
Want to enjoy the game more? Try both PvP (crybabies) and PvE (carebears). You'll get a better perspective on everyone's opinion.
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@eso_lagsI imagine ill get some *** for this, but tell me something. Why is hardened ward so important for mag sorcs?
Because there's more to ESO than just PvP.
I use my Mag Pet Sorc to solo group vet dungeons and run vMA.
The shields are essential for a light armor build in those scenarios. Without them my build won't work.
I know that lol. I was thinking more of a pvp and trial perspective. And I wasn't thinking about the pets.
Fair enough. Now that you mention it, hardened is definitely essential for a pet sorc because of the pets. Without them the pets would die too fast. So I guess thats a problem I overlooked. Idk, I guess we will see on monday or whenever the PTS is out. I agree that the notes are probably real, or a damn good fake that someone wasted a damn long time on, but the pts will show how bad it would be.0 -
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✭✭✭Seraphayel wrote: »PetSorcs were absolutely overperforming in PvP and this nerf to their defensive capabilities was necessary.
By the way the Liquid Lightning nerf can be ignored because every AoE DoT was nerfed.
I don't care about pvp, and the shield changes are really bad for pve.13 -
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✭✭Savos_Saren wrote: »
@eso_lagsI imagine ill get some *** for this, but tell me something. Why is hardened ward so important for mag sorcs?
Because there's more to ESO than just PvP.
I use my Mag Pet Sorc to solo group vet dungeons and run vMA.
The shields are essential for a light armor build in those scenarios. Without them my build won't work.
For the bolded part: That’s why some builds are being nerfed.
Possibly but you can solo many dungeons on more than a pet sorc. And this is something thats always gonna happen in a game like this. Many of those dungeons were made back at, what, vr12? or vr14? with 500 cp? I forget what it was. Now its 810 cp and stats have gone up, things have gotten stronger, zos put overpowered sets in the game.. Not sure why they would target classes over that.6 -
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@Savos_SarenSavos_Saren wrote: »
For the bolded part: That’s why some builds are being nerfed.
@eso_lagsI imagine ill get some *** for this, but tell me something. Why is hardened ward so important for mag sorcs?
Because there's more to ESO than just PvP.
I use my Mag Pet Sorc to solo group vet dungeons and run vMA.
The shields are essential for a light armor build in those scenarios. Without them my build won't work.
If you can clear vMA, you can solo most base game group dungeons on vet.
If that bothers you, you will have to nerf every build that has ever cleared vMA.
Sounds ridiculous? Yeah, i thought so too ...
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