Can we have an update re: Guild History?

StabbityDoom · June 2019

I don’t know, data comes through in dribs and drabs even when I’m not doing anything. But of course it’s almost nothing. Hey? Update? @ZOS_GinaBruno Even if it’s just we haven’t figured it out yet?

StabbityDoom · June 2019

Who should I even be addressing these requests to? Is Gina the right person?

therift · June 2019

StabbityDoom wrote: »

Who should I even be addressing these requests to? Is Gina the right person?

I believe addressing Gina is the correct step. I believe she is diligent in passing on the requests to whomever is responsible for this issue. I recommend avoiding tagging her excessively; all it does is clutter up her inbox and possibly annoy. And all she can do is ask the team and wait for a response. It would be nice if she were to post "they're working on it; no eta yet"... but it seems that in other threads, when she does so, it merely prompts another round of tagging to clarify "eta".

Donny_Vito · June 2019

StabbityDoom wrote: »

Who should I even be addressing these requests to? Is Gina the right person?

Support Ticket. If you are trying to tag ZOS employees on the public forum for official answers then you are under the wrong expectations. They'll speak when they want to, and tagging them on issues they are aware of isn't going to expedite the process, unfortunately.

Chrysoprase · June 2019

Just posting to let you know that my 3 trading guilds of 1500 players are waiting for and asking for some sort of communication here.

StabbityDoom · June 2019

That's what this thread needs to hear, thanks @Chrysoprase.

@Donny_Vito , I will try that too.

Donny_Vito · June 2019

I think the bigger issue here is that add-ons shouldn't be a crucial part of the game. If you, or your guild, cannot continue playing and having fun because of an add-on then there is another underlying issue that needs to be resolved first.

Edit: To clarify, I do believe some of the blame is on ESO for the architecture they set up, as they made these add-ons a crutch for certain players. And now they are trying to increase game performance (which people say is the #1 issue) by limiting the API calls for add-ons. It's a lose-lose situation.

agegarton · June 2019

still no answer ?

wavingblue · June 2019

Would really love an update, the clock is ticking.

TheTraveler · June 2019

I opened a ticket 4 days after the initial freeze already. On the in-game feedback tab. Maybe I can start another one in the "bug" section? :P

Pevey · June 2019

Donny_Vito wrote: »

I think the bigger issue here is that add-ons shouldn't be a crucial part of the game. If you, or your guild, cannot continue playing and having fun because of an add-on then there is another underlying issue that needs to be resolved first.

That’s a valid concern and perhaps a good topic for discussion elsewhere, but it’s not the “bigger issue here.” It’s not the topic here at all.

Addons have always been a big part of the game on PC, and an important api was disabled with no ETA as to when we will get it back. We would like an update on the status when possible. That is the topic of this thread.

chess1ukb16_ESO · June 2019

You can get MM to read the data but it is slow in a busy guild(s).

If you open the Guild history then Sales and slowly work backwards by pressing E repeatedly; to whatever point of time you want; I went back to 9 pm CET on 9th April so I had a full set of sales data for last week. Then run the /mm missing command and voila.

Press E too often in quick succession you get kicked from the game for spamming commands to the server so gently does it.

Enjoy

RANKK7 · June 2019

Got some data but this is not solved at all. It seems to get MM to read all the sales we must browse all the history from the Guild Sales Menu and then enable the addon, at that point all should be showing. Yeah, right, this takes like hours, no way!

@ZOS the situation is bad

Chrysoprase wrote: »

Just posting to let you know that my 3 trading guilds of 1500 players are waiting for and asking for some sort of communication here.

This.

RANKK7 · June 2019

chess1ukb16_ESO wrote: »

You can get MM to read the data but it is slow in a busy guild(s).

If you open the guild history and slowly work backwards by pressing E repeatedly; to whatever point of time you want; I went back to 9 pm CET on 9th April so I had a full last week of MM the information will be loaded into MM. Then run the /mm missing command and voila.

Press E too often in quick succession you get kicked from the game for spamming commands to the server so gently does it.

Enjoy

Yes, I was writing that just the moment you too were posting, how much time it takes though? When it doesn't freeze too...
For a big guild with a lot of sales and more than one guild, it's just insane time to spend.

Pevey · June 2019

chess1ukb16_ESO wrote: »

You can get MM to read the data but it is slow in a busy guild(s).

If you open the guild history and slowly work backwards by pressing E repeatedly; to whatever point of time you want; I went back to 9 pm CET on 9th April so I had a full last week of MM the information will be loaded into MM. Then run the /mm missing command and voila.

Press E too often in quick succession you get kicked from the game for spamming commands to the server so gently does it.

Enjoy

Thanks. Many of us are actually aware of this but almost afraid to point it out since ZOS may take more drastic measures to prevent even this. And it is not a fix for the situation, since it is very time consuming, especially if you are in multiple guilds. And it is surely more taxing on the server than the API way of pulling the data, but who knows.

therift · June 2019

Troll food edited at OP's request

Back on topic.... has base guild UI history logs been turned back on? Curious. And sympathetic.

StabbityDoom · June 2019

TheTraveler wrote: »

I opened a ticket 4 days after the initial freeze already. On the in-game feedback tab. Maybe I can start another one in the "bug" section? :P

Can you give me the number? I would like to cite it in mine.

StabbityDoom · June 2019

Pevey wrote: »

chess1ukb16_ESO wrote: »

You can get MM to read the data but it is slow in a busy guild(s).

If you open the guild history and slowly work backwards by pressing E repeatedly; to whatever point of time you want; I went back to 9 pm CET on 9th April so I had a full last week of MM the information will be loaded into MM. Then run the /mm missing command and voila.

Press E too often in quick succession you get kicked from the game for spamming commands to the server so gently does it.

Enjoy

Thanks. Many of us are actually aware of this but almost afraid to point it out since ZOS may take more drastic measures to prevent even this. And it is not a fix for the situation, since it is very time consuming, especially if you are in multiple guilds. And it is surely more taxing on the server than the API way of pulling the data, but who knows.

Exactly. I'm not sure this is "legal" so i'd rather not mess with it and get banned.

StabbityDoom · June 2019

therift wrote: »

Back on topic.... has base guild UI history logs been turned back on? Curious. And sympathetic.

Thanks for keeping it on topic! Yes, they have been turned on, but there's no way to pull the data yet.

Pevey · June 2019

For whatever reason, my experience and the experience of others I have talked to is that tickets submitted in-game seem to go unanswered. If you submit a ticket, probably best to do so on the web site.

Although, honestly, I don’t think it’s a good idea. Submitting a ticket if you were unaware of why the function wasn’t working because you don’t read the forums would be understandable, but since we know the function was turned off on purpose, it just further gunks up the zos plumbing. I know several people who have not gotten their E3 drops and are having a hard time getting a reasonable response because of all the other legit tickets right now, so I would feel bad about making it even more difficult for them. Just my two cents.

StabbityDoom · June 2019

@Kidgangster101 I will tell you this once, and only once, out of human decency. I'm not going to debate you. I'm not going to discuss *anything* with you. This will be the end of my communication with you. /END

If anyone else reads this, please do the same. It will end in this thread being locked again.

This is about the API feed for the addons on pc. Period.

StabbityDoom · June 2019

Pevey wrote: »

For whatever reason, my experience and the experience of others I have talked to is that tickets submitted in-game seem to go unanswered. If you submit a ticket, probably best to do so on the web site.

Although, honestly, I don’t think it’s a good idea. Submitting a ticket if you were unaware of why the function wasn’t working because you don’t read the forums would be understandable, but since we know the function was turned off on purpose, it just further gunks up the zos plumbing. I know several people who have not gotten their E3 drops and are having a hard time getting a reasonable response because of all the other legit tickets right now, so I would feel bad about making it even more difficult for them. Just my two cents.

I have had them answered in game but they have been for things I needed fixed, like missing nirn or something.

SteveCampsOut · June 2019

StabbityDoom wrote: »

Kidgangster101 wrote: »

@TheTraveler Glad you are entitled as a PC player once again, you do realize zos doesn't care how much you pay for your pc right? This is

DON'T BITE. He's baiting you into an argument. @TheTraveler, everyone else, please just ignore all attempts to derail conversation, I appreciate everyone's assistance in this. This is not about whether Addons should be in the game. This is not about PC/Console. This is about the api on pc. Period. If you are here to fight about those other issues, may I recommend you start a different thread.

I recommend people just report troll posts as I am doing.

ZOS_Ragnar · June 2019

We have removed some off-topic comments that were disrupting the discussion. Further attempts at derailing this thread may result in your account being actioned accordingly.

West1389 · June 2019

Thanks ryan told these people to just go back and play the game they love. When will they learn smh.

reoskit · June 2019

Busy day IRL, but I've not forgotten. Here for my daily request:

Please restore the API's full capacity access to the guild history.

Edit: Missing word.

wavingblue · June 2019

Yes because the devs are the ones moderating the forums.

reoskit · June 2019

Forum mods do not develop code. My request is not directed at them. No one is being distracted.

Thank you for your concern.

GarnetFire17 · June 2019

As of last night Shissu's Guild Tools and ATT seem to be working as they should. Last week'sinfo seems missing and I don't trust this week's info either to rely on. But the Guild Finder issues seem fixed and promoting and demoting players is very much improved. There is much less delay and the message in the top right corner is very helpful. I will keep looking out for problems but as of now I am pretty happy with what has been done and I would say that it looks like it was worth it in the end.

reoskit · June 2019

GarnetFire17 wrote: »

As of last night Shissu's Guild Tools and ATT seem to be working as they should. Last week'sinfo seems missing and I don't trust this week's info either to rely on. But the Guild Finder issues seem fixed and promoting and demoting players is very much improved. There is much less delay and the message in the top right corner is very helpful. I will keep looking out for problems but as of now I am pretty happy with what has been done and I would say that it looks like it was worth it in the end.

That’s good news. Without full sales data (atm) we currently cannot purge guildies to make room for newbies, but I’m happy to hear of any progress on the guild finder. It has such promise. Thanks for the info.