laksikus wrote: »

El_Borracho wrote: »

FlopsyPrince wrote: »

El_Borracho wrote: »

Just so I understand, people pay money to buy this game, then pay more money to avoid playing the game, then complain that they are given the option to spend more money to avoid playing the game. ZOS, you guys are geniuses!

I simply don't understand the aversion to gathering skyshards as part of leveling an alternate character. You have to level the new character and the new character's skills by playing the game, why not make running delves and hunting skyshards part of it? Its not hard. Its not much more time consuming than running main quest/zone story quests/guild quests to speed level.

I can see it now, ZOS will next offer "Scrolls of Leveling" in the guild store where you can use crowns to buy experience to level your alternate character. And people will complain that it is again too expensive.

Running around needed items like skyshards is grindy, not "playing the game". Technically anything is, but the game could have something that required you to daily run (not ride) between Alinoir and Shimmerine, for example. That would technically be "playing the game" but would add no value. The same is true of collecting skyshards on multiple characters. That grind keeps me from playing much of the game I would rather play.

You get over 50 skill points just by leveling to level 50. You get at least 5 more through the basic main quest. You get anywhere from 3-6 more skill points by doing a zone story quest. It takes about 2-3 zones to level up to 50, so conservatively, that is 10 more skill points for a total of 65, and that is without counting the bonus skill points you get at level 25 or 30 or whatever.

With 10 skills and 2 ultimates, that's 24 skill points. Racial passives are another 9. Throw in 2 for persuasion and intimidation and we are up to 33. Which leaves over 30 points for passives to fill. And this is all without grabbing a single skyshard. In fact, this would likely entail actively avoiding grabbing skyshards on quests you are doing for leveling.

Exactly how many skill points do you need from skyshards on your alternate? Are you trying to make every character a master crafter? If so, great, its your game. But that is an unnecessary luxury. Just as buying skyshards is an unnecessary luxury. Therefore, you should be prepared to pay unnecessary prices for it.

Its really no different than paying gold to teleport in the game instead of riding another 10 seconds to a wayshrine with your mount. Except you are using real money to gather something that would take, what, 30-45 minutes to run through a zone? A zone you are likely grinding exp on to level that new character anyway...

lets see what my nb needs on skillpoints other than crafting skills and for 1 pvp and 1 pve build only:

22 skills+morphs: 44 skill points
12x2 class passives: 24 skill points
11x2 Weapon passives: 24 skill points
Armor passives: 21 skill points
Guild passives: 21 skill points
alliance war passives: 12 skill points
racials: 9 skill points
Medicinal Use: 3 skill points

thats on total 158 skill points

LukosCreyden wrote: »

for 800 crowns, you may as well just go grab them again. It only takes 15 minutes max per zone.