Skyshard Prices!?

generalmyrick · June 2019

Whatcha thinK????

vMaick · June 2019

What is the price and how many do you get for it?

Iluvrien · June 2019

other

Shouldn’t be available for sale in the first place.

phaneub17_ESO · June 2019

vMaick wrote: »

What is the price and how many do you get for it?

50 crowns per sky shard. So an average zone gives you 16 for 800 crowns. Since I hate to pvp and don't want to set foot in Cyrodiil ever again, I can buy those sky shards for my alts that don't already have them. Anywhere else in the game, I'm still going to grab them manually.

Oh, and forgot to mention just like everything else in this game they don't give discounts for having partially collected, you pay full price regardless.

randomkeyhits · June 2019

phaneub17_ESO wrote: »

vMaick wrote: »

What is the price and how many do you get for it?

50 crowns per sky shard. So an average zone gives you 16 for 800 crowns. Since I hate to pvp and don't want to set foot in Cyrodiil ever again, I can buy those sky shards for my alts that don't already have them. Anywhere else in the game, I'm still going to grab them manually.

You still have to go there for the one at the top of the mountain don't you?

VaranisArano · June 2019

Searching for Skyshards is still free...

Or you can pay through the nose for the convenience (or avoiding having to roam in Cyrodiil). Your call.

method__01 · June 2019

cheap!

its cheap,should be 1000 per area or more
this is an mmorpg,the more time you invest,the more the benefits
dont want join a grp who does skyshard hunting in daily basis?fine,play with less skills or level only 1 toon or whatever
imo its the same with ppl asking for mount upgrades acc wide,or mages guild or psijic order

play more if you want more

Davor · June 2019

other

phaneub17_ESO wrote: »

Oh, and forgot to mention just like everything else in this game they don't give discounts for having partially collected, you pay full price regardless.

You can buy partially collected skyshards? I don't see that option. I see them in red and saying I am not allowed to buy them. So I believe you can only buy them if you have collected all of them in the zone at least once on a character.

As for me, I voted other. At 50 cents, it an excellent deal. Just like pennies, cheap on their own, but when added up, can become real expensive.

phaneub17_ESO · June 2019

Davor wrote: »

phaneub17_ESO wrote: »

Oh, and forgot to mention just like everything else in this game they don't give discounts for having partially collected, you pay full price regardless.

You can buy partially collected skyshards? I don't see that option. I see them in red and saying I am not allowed to buy them. So I believe you can only buy them if you have collected all of them in the zone at least once on a character.

As for me, I voted other. At 50 cents, it an excellent deal. Just like pennies, cheap on their own, but when added up, can become real expensive.

No I mean if you already collected some of an area like have 7/16 collected, and you pay for the sky shard buy option you still pay the full 800 crowns.

gimpdrb14_ESO · June 2019

just right!

already brought the cyrdil ones for my necro

barney2525 · June 2019

phaneub17_ESO wrote: »

vMaick wrote: »

What is the price and how many do you get for it?

50 crowns per sky shard. So an average zone gives you 16 for 800 crowns. Since I hate to pvp and don't want to set foot in Cyrodiil ever again, I can buy those sky shards for my alts that don't already have them. Anywhere else in the game, I'm still going to grab them manually.

Oh, and forgot to mention just like everything else in this game they don't give discounts for having partially collected, you pay full price regardless.

Should also mention that you Only get the option to buy them IF you have had a character pick all of them up manually one time.

DBZVelena · June 2019

other

imo, the prices are alright if you haven't explored a zone already.

However, the prices stay the same regardless of the number of skyshards to grab.

THAT is when i feel like we are getting ripped off. If it unlocks less skyshards, you should either A: get a discount. Or B: not be able to purchase that zone at all.

srfrogg23 · June 2019

other

Y'all should have known this would happen.

FlopsyPrince · June 2019

too expensive

phaneub17_ESO wrote: »

Davor wrote: »

phaneub17_ESO wrote: »

Oh, and forgot to mention just like everything else in this game they don't give discounts for having partially collected, you pay full price regardless.

You can buy partially collected skyshards? I don't see that option. I see them in red and saying I am not allowed to buy them. So I believe you can only buy them if you have collected all of them in the zone at least once on a character.

As for me, I voted other. At 50 cents, it an excellent deal. Just like pennies, cheap on their own, but when added up, can become real expensive.

No I mean if you already collected some of an area like have 7/16 collected, and you pay for the sky shard buy option you still pay the full 800 crowns.

It would be the full price even if you had 17/18, such as in Summerset.

50 crowns per is idiotic already.

They should be account-wide without a cost already. Pure money grab and very annoying. Too much of my game time is spent hunting shards now for many alts rather than questing and playing the content. Sure I get some content too, but running around the same places in the same zone 15 times gets very old.

FlopsyPrince · June 2019

too expensive

DBZVelena wrote: »

imo, the prices are alright if you haven't explored a zone already.

However, the prices stay the same regardless of the number of skyshards to grab.

THAT is when i feel like we are getting ripped off. If it unlocks less skyshards, you should either A: get a discount. Or B: not be able to purchase that zone at all.

The starter zones are the only ones with a price that is even remotely acceptable, except that it is for far fewer shards and those can almost always be quickly nabbed. Not appealing at all, just annoying.

Chaos2088 · June 2019

other

Ain't gunna buy them....i like questing....so will come across these in game. But hey some will like them and get them, to each their own

Devanear · June 2019

other

As long as something can be earned in game, it's price in the store is irrelevant. If people want to pay for convenience, that's up to them.

Jayne_Doe · June 2019

Price is fine, as they're still entirely free to get in-game. This isn't a cost that anyone needs to pay. Just like motifs at 5k crowns a pop. You can get each and every one of those in-game for free. I'm not including the CS-only motifs, which have cost less than half of most of the CS motifs.

And, yes it's 50 crowns per shard, but that's 150 crowns per skill point.

FlopsyPrince · June 2019

too expensive

Devanear wrote: »

As long as something can be earned in game, it's price in the store is irrelevant. If people want to pay for convenience, that's up to them.

I would strongly disagree.

That would allow them to complicate many things on purpose just so they could offer simplification by using Crowns.

This is a very tedious part of the game that needlessly impacts alts. It is bad, though I don't see it changing much.

Davor · June 2019

other

phaneub17_ESO wrote: »

Davor wrote: »

phaneub17_ESO wrote: »

Oh, and forgot to mention just like everything else in this game they don't give discounts for having partially collected, you pay full price regardless.

You can buy partially collected skyshards? I don't see that option. I see them in red and saying I am not allowed to buy them. So I believe you can only buy them if you have collected all of them in the zone at least once on a character.

As for me, I voted other. At 50 cents, it an excellent deal. Just like pennies, cheap on their own, but when added up, can become real expensive.

No I mean if you already collected some of an area like have 7/16 collected, and you pay for the sky shard buy option you still pay the full 800 crowns.

Oh. I didn't know that. Thank you for letting me know.

daemonios · June 2019

other

Ya get what ya pay for. Many people have been signalling to ZOS for years that they'll pay through their teeth for convenience (in addition to pixels with zero marginal cost). Stop paying, maybe ZOS will remove the inconveniences and/or lower prices.

Devanear · June 2019

other

FlopsyPrince wrote: »

Devanear wrote: »

As long as something can be earned in game, it's price in the store is irrelevant. If people want to pay for convenience, that's up to them.

I would strongly disagree.

That would allow them to complicate many things on purpose just so they could offer simplification by using Crowns.

This is a very tedious part of the game that needlessly impacts alts. It is bad, though I don't see it changing much.

You mean like they do with the inventory? I would say that is a good example of what you are talking about, but not the sky shards. That's an element of the game, that was designed around gameplay and then added to the store as a convenience for alts. Let's not forget you need to get the achievement for the skyshards before you are able to buy them. So I have no problem with this business model, is gameplay first, store second. I only wish everything was like that.

max_only · June 2019

just right!

750 per Cyrodiil faction is almost too much, they pushed it lol. Was hoping for 500, but not more than 800. Got all my Imperial City and Cyrodiil skyshards before the update and I never have to go back.

This was the monkey’s paw offered to assuage consoles. When it was announced, a good amount of console players said they would buy it ASAP. They wished for either account wide skyshards or a skyshard map and this was the result.

FlopsyPrince · June 2019

too expensive

max_only wrote: »

750 per Cyrodiil faction is almost too much, they pushed it lol. Was hoping for 500, but not more than 800. Got all my Imperial City and Cyrodiil skyshards before the update and I never have to go back.

This was the monkey’s paw offered to assuage consoles. When it was announced, a good amount of console players said they would buy it ASAP. They wished for either account wide skyshards or a skyshard map and this was the result.

50 per Skyshard is WAY too costly.

CMDR_Un1k0rn · June 2019

just right!

Just right.

Pro tip: You don't have to buy all the packages. Personally I will get the Cyrodiil packs. Everything else though I'll get the old fashioned way.

El_Borracho · June 2019

other

Just so I understand, people pay money to buy this game, then pay more money to avoid playing the game, then complain that they are given the option to spend more money to avoid playing the game. ZOS, you guys are geniuses!

I simply don't understand the aversion to gathering skyshards as part of leveling an alternate character. You have to level the new character and the new character's skills by playing the game, why not make running delves and hunting skyshards part of it? Its not hard. Its not much more time consuming than running main quest/zone story quests/guild quests to speed level.

I can see it now, ZOS will next offer "Scrolls of Leveling" in the guild store where you can use crowns to buy experience to level your alternate character. And people will complain that it is again too expensive.

wolfie1.0. · June 2019

other

I'm just glad that I wont see any more forum posts with people complaining about the skyshard grind on alts. Now I can prepare myself for the forum posts about people complaining that they have to pay for them on every character....

FlopsyPrince · June 2019

too expensive

El_Borracho wrote: »

Just so I understand, people pay money to buy this game, then pay more money to avoid playing the game, then complain that they are given the option to spend more money to avoid playing the game. ZOS, you guys are geniuses!

I simply don't understand the aversion to gathering skyshards as part of leveling an alternate character. You have to level the new character and the new character's skills by playing the game, why not make running delves and hunting skyshards part of it? Its not hard. Its not much more time consuming than running main quest/zone story quests/guild quests to speed level.

I can see it now, ZOS will next offer "Scrolls of Leveling" in the guild store where you can use crowns to buy experience to level your alternate character. And people will complain that it is again too expensive.

Running around needed items like skyshards is grindy, not "playing the game". Technically anything is, but the game could have something that required you to daily run (not ride) between Alinoir and Shimmerine, for example. That would technically be "playing the game" but would add no value. The same is true of collecting skyshards on multiple characters. That grind keeps me from playing much of the game I would rather play.

FlopsyPrince · June 2019

too expensive

wtlonewolf20 wrote: »

I'm just glad that I wont see any more forum posts with people complaining about the skyshard grind on alts. Now I can prepare myself for the forum posts about people complaining that they have to pay for them on every character....

It remains a grind unless you have more money than brains. Most of us, even those with some money, don't spend it quite so freely. Bad "solution".

SirAxen · June 2019

just right!

When things start popping up on the Crown store for super cheap you will know the game is dying.

El_Borracho · June 2019

other

FlopsyPrince wrote: »

El_Borracho wrote: »

Just so I understand, people pay money to buy this game, then pay more money to avoid playing the game, then complain that they are given the option to spend more money to avoid playing the game. ZOS, you guys are geniuses!

I simply don't understand the aversion to gathering skyshards as part of leveling an alternate character. You have to level the new character and the new character's skills by playing the game, why not make running delves and hunting skyshards part of it? Its not hard. Its not much more time consuming than running main quest/zone story quests/guild quests to speed level.

I can see it now, ZOS will next offer "Scrolls of Leveling" in the guild store where you can use crowns to buy experience to level your alternate character. And people will complain that it is again too expensive.

Running around needed items like skyshards is grindy, not "playing the game". Technically anything is, but the game could have something that required you to daily run (not ride) between Alinoir and Shimmerine, for example. That would technically be "playing the game" but would add no value. The same is true of collecting skyshards on multiple characters. That grind keeps me from playing much of the game I would rather play.

You get over 50 skill points just by leveling to level 50. You get at least 5 more through the basic main quest. You get anywhere from 3-6 more skill points by doing a zone story quest. It takes about 2-3 zones to level up to 50, so conservatively, that is 10 more skill points for a total of 65, and that is without counting the bonus skill points you get at level 25 or 30 or whatever.

With 10 skills and 2 ultimates, that's 24 skill points. Racial passives are another 9. Throw in 2 for persuasion and intimidation and we are up to 33. Which leaves over 30 points for passives to fill. And this is all without grabbing a single skyshard. In fact, this would likely entail actively avoiding grabbing skyshards on quests you are doing for leveling.

Exactly how many skill points do you need from skyshards on your alternate? Are you trying to make every character a master crafter? If so, great, its your game. But that is an unnecessary luxury. Just as buying skyshards is an unnecessary luxury. Therefore, you should be prepared to pay unnecessary prices for it.

Its really no different than paying gold to teleport in the game instead of riding another 10 seconds to a wayshrine with your mount. Except you are using real money to gather something that would take, what, 30-45 minutes to run through a zone? A zone you are likely grinding exp on to level that new character anyway...

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