What, did you even read what he said? When people asked him why not use vMA staff, he answered elaborately that it is not a staff easily aquired by the crowd the build is made for, and that the build is cheaper, and easier to obtain and stronger compared to the original ez mode sorc. Adding a vMA staff doesn't change any of those 3 points. I mean, we might be talking about different things though, enlighten me what you meant@T3hasiangod just ignore them man, they are not reading your arguments xd
Both "sides" of this debate seem to ignore the arguments of the opposite side. They talk past each other, instead of listening.
vesselwiththepestle wrote: »You should check out his youtube channel...
vesselwiththepestle wrote: »The whole point of his build is to utilize easy to get gear...
starkerealm wrote: »vesselwiththepestle wrote: »You should check out his youtube channel...
I have, and it's clear that he needs to learn about how to play the DPS role. It might be a good idea for him to brush up on the basics.vesselwiththepestle wrote: »The whole point of his build is to utilize easy to get gear...
...precludes the inclusion of trial sets. I know, you think Trials are easy. I think trials are easy. However, that isn't necessarily the case. If we're talking about people with manual dexterity issues so severe they're unable to clear vMA... trial content is probably going to be beyond them as well. Unless you're advocating they actively look for carries.
starkerealm wrote: »vesselwiththepestle wrote: »You should check out his youtube channel...
I have, and it's clear that he needs to learn about how to play the DPS role. It might be a good idea for him to brush up on the basics.vesselwiththepestle wrote: »The whole point of his build is to utilize easy to get gear...
...precludes the inclusion of trial sets. I know, you think Trials are easy. I think trials are easy. However, that isn't necessarily the case. If we're talking about people with manual dexterity issues so severe they're unable to clear vMA... trial content is probably going to be beyond them as well. Unless you're advocating they actively look for carries.
The build t3hasiangod compared Xynode's Easy Sorc to is using: Ilambris, Mother's Sorrow and Necropotence. None of which are trial sets.
WrathOfInnos wrote: »IA is often redundant in groups, but has decent stats. UI is just plain weak. Max mag on the 2 and 3 pc is the worst DPS trait (Spell Crit, Spell Damage, Spell Pen all perform better), Weapon Crit to the 4 pc adds literally nothing, and the 5 pc is not nearly powerful enough to make up for these shortcomings.
If you’re going to do a pure lightning heavy attack build just use something like Julianos and/or Netch. Neither are BiS for end game, but both are good options for easy sorc. Mother’s Sorrow is also excellent and can be bought from other players for cheap. Even Queen’s Elegance is decent for heavy attack builds, and is dirt cheap, no farming required.
What you’ll very quickly discover is that the build calls for the sets that it does (IA & UI) for a very specific reason and that those sets with those skills and that rotation have the best outcome for this bulld.
Seriously. Go try it.
starkerealm wrote: »@masel, there seems to be an inverse correlation. The more someone understands about the game, the less likely they are to be hyperfocused on finding a single, overall, "best."
I mean, it drops off at the bottom end, with people who really don't know or care, but, if you're looking at someone who came from WoW, or raids occasionally, terms like "BiS" are much more likely to be thrown around as actual statements. The people who really understand the game's systems, and the options we have are far more likely to use, "BiS," sarcastically.
I think that has to do with how ESO's build diversity really is open, and an understanding that a difference of 5k DPS at the upper end of the spectrum doesn't really matter in a practical sense (outside of score attacks.) However, if you're coming from an MMO where there is an objective best, you could make the mistake of looking at that 5k, and thinking, "but, there must be a reason to run the better option!"
There's also a few people who only run their builds on paper (or against dummies), who then get extremely defensive of their builds the instant you poke them. I mean, the real reason here is, they're untested, and they know it, but they'll scream to the rooftops about how theirs is the way, the truth, and the light, rather than admit that you could get slightly lower damage on a dummy, but better damage in live, by just switching to a different, "less optimized set." I remember someone arguing for Siroria when they were only able to maintain five stacks, as an example of this. Or, you know, half the value of just running Juli. But, they're quite aggressive about their builds. (I kinda wonder if they were the ones behind the Mother's Sorrow+Acuity mess a couple years ago.)
So, yeah, I tend to be somewhat hostile to the people who are like, "no, there's only one possible BiS." Sometimes, a bit too aggressive, but life goes on.
Actually Xynode does list his CP setup. Did you look here? https://www.xynodegaming.com/easysorclassitershawn wrote: »Worth noting that I forgot to fully optimize CP for this but the website doesn't even list optimized CP just says put 75 in thaum.
Actually Xynode does list his CP setup. Did you look here? https://www.xynodegaming.com/easysorclassitershawn wrote: »Worth noting that I forgot to fully optimize CP for this but the website doesn't even list optimized CP just says put 75 in thaum.Blue Stuff: 75 Thaumaturge - 47 Staff Expert - 64 Elemental expert - 51 Elfborn - 10 Spell Erosion - 23 Master at arms
Green Stuff: 75 Tenacity - 75 Arcanist - 44 Warlord - 76 Tumbling
Red Stuff: 19 Quick Recovery - 64 Hardy - 64 Elemental Defender - 51 Thick Skinned - 72 Ironclad
lassitershawn wrote: »Actually Xynode does list his CP setup. Did you look here? https://www.xynodegaming.com/easysorclassitershawn wrote: »Worth noting that I forgot to fully optimize CP for this but the website doesn't even list optimized CP just says put 75 in thaum.Blue Stuff: 75 Thaumaturge - 47 Staff Expert - 64 Elemental expert - 51 Elfborn - 10 Spell Erosion - 23 Master at arms
Green Stuff: 75 Tenacity - 75 Arcanist - 44 Warlord - 76 Tumbling
Red Stuff: 19 Quick Recovery - 64 Hardy - 64 Elemental Defender - 51 Thick Skinned - 72 Ironclad
You're right, my mistake. I didn't see the entire part devoted to CP, just the second part which makes it look a lot more like just randomly throwing in CP where they look good. He could fit most of the information from the entire post into a single superstar screenshot
starkerealm wrote: »vesselwiththepestle wrote: »You should check out his youtube channel...
I have, and it's clear that he needs to learn about how to play the DPS role. It might be a good idea for him to brush up on the basics.vesselwiththepestle wrote: »The whole point of his build is to utilize easy to get gear...
...precludes the inclusion of trial sets. I know, you think Trials are easy. I think trials are easy. However, that isn't necessarily the case. If we're talking about people with manual dexterity issues so severe they're unable to clear vMA... trial content is probably going to be beyond them as well. Unless you're advocating they actively look for carries.
The build t3hasiangod compared Xynode's Easy Sorc to is using: Ilambris, Mother's Sorrow and Necropotence. None of which are trial sets.
Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »Has this set up been tried on a magdk with the 50% boost to heavys?
starkerealm wrote: »lassitershawn wrote: »Actually Xynode does list his CP setup. Did you look here? https://www.xynodegaming.com/easysorclassitershawn wrote: »Worth noting that I forgot to fully optimize CP for this but the website doesn't even list optimized CP just says put 75 in thaum.Blue Stuff: 75 Thaumaturge - 47 Staff Expert - 64 Elemental expert - 51 Elfborn - 10 Spell Erosion - 23 Master at arms
Green Stuff: 75 Tenacity - 75 Arcanist - 44 Warlord - 76 Tumbling
Red Stuff: 19 Quick Recovery - 64 Hardy - 64 Elemental Defender - 51 Thick Skinned - 72 Ironclad
You're right, my mistake. I didn't see the entire part devoted to CP, just the second part which makes it look a lot more like just randomly throwing in CP where they look good. He could fit most of the information from the entire post into a single superstar screenshot
Ironically, a Superstar Screenshot would take up more space than the CP allocation there. Also, the entire part where he's explaining his allocation instead of just saying, "here, take this, it's t3h best," doesn't really fit on a screenshot.
lassitershawn wrote: »starkerealm wrote: »lassitershawn wrote: »Actually Xynode does list his CP setup. Did you look here? https://www.xynodegaming.com/easysorclassitershawn wrote: »Worth noting that I forgot to fully optimize CP for this but the website doesn't even list optimized CP just says put 75 in thaum.Blue Stuff: 75 Thaumaturge - 47 Staff Expert - 64 Elemental expert - 51 Elfborn - 10 Spell Erosion - 23 Master at arms
Green Stuff: 75 Tenacity - 75 Arcanist - 44 Warlord - 76 Tumbling
Red Stuff: 19 Quick Recovery - 64 Hardy - 64 Elemental Defender - 51 Thick Skinned - 72 Ironclad
You're right, my mistake. I didn't see the entire part devoted to CP, just the second part which makes it look a lot more like just randomly throwing in CP where they look good. He could fit most of the information from the entire post into a single superstar screenshot
Ironically, a Superstar Screenshot would take up more space than the CP allocation there. Also, the entire part where he's explaining his allocation instead of just saying, "here, take this, it's t3h best," doesn't really fit on a screenshot.
? You can literally fit an entire build on a superstar screenshot. Gear, CP, stats, skill bars, everything...
lassitershawn wrote: »starkerealm wrote: »lassitershawn wrote: »Actually Xynode does list his CP setup. Did you look here? https://www.xynodegaming.com/easysorclassitershawn wrote: »Worth noting that I forgot to fully optimize CP for this but the website doesn't even list optimized CP just says put 75 in thaum.Blue Stuff: 75 Thaumaturge - 47 Staff Expert - 64 Elemental expert - 51 Elfborn - 10 Spell Erosion - 23 Master at arms
Green Stuff: 75 Tenacity - 75 Arcanist - 44 Warlord - 76 Tumbling
Red Stuff: 19 Quick Recovery - 64 Hardy - 64 Elemental Defender - 51 Thick Skinned - 72 Ironclad
You're right, my mistake. I didn't see the entire part devoted to CP, just the second part which makes it look a lot more like just randomly throwing in CP where they look good. He could fit most of the information from the entire post into a single superstar screenshot
Ironically, a Superstar Screenshot would take up more space than the CP allocation there. Also, the entire part where he's explaining his allocation instead of just saying, "here, take this, it's t3h best," doesn't really fit on a screenshot.
? You can literally fit an entire build on a superstar screenshot. Gear, CP, stats, skill bars, everything...
gee thanks for that!
lassitershawn wrote: »lassitershawn wrote: »starkerealm wrote: »lassitershawn wrote: »Actually Xynode does list his CP setup. Did you look here? https://www.xynodegaming.com/easysorclassitershawn wrote: »Worth noting that I forgot to fully optimize CP for this but the website doesn't even list optimized CP just says put 75 in thaum.Blue Stuff: 75 Thaumaturge - 47 Staff Expert - 64 Elemental expert - 51 Elfborn - 10 Spell Erosion - 23 Master at arms
Green Stuff: 75 Tenacity - 75 Arcanist - 44 Warlord - 76 Tumbling
Red Stuff: 19 Quick Recovery - 64 Hardy - 64 Elemental Defender - 51 Thick Skinned - 72 Ironclad
You're right, my mistake. I didn't see the entire part devoted to CP, just the second part which makes it look a lot more like just randomly throwing in CP where they look good. He could fit most of the information from the entire post into a single superstar screenshot
Ironically, a Superstar Screenshot would take up more space than the CP allocation there. Also, the entire part where he's explaining his allocation instead of just saying, "here, take this, it's t3h best," doesn't really fit on a screenshot.
? You can literally fit an entire build on a superstar screenshot. Gear, CP, stats, skill bars, everything...
gee thanks for that!
Its just constructive criticism Not trying to be mean, superstar is a hella nice way to convey a lot of information really concisely.
lassitershawn wrote: »starkerealm wrote: »lassitershawn wrote: »Actually Xynode does list his CP setup. Did you look here? https://www.xynodegaming.com/easysorclassitershawn wrote: »Worth noting that I forgot to fully optimize CP for this but the website doesn't even list optimized CP just says put 75 in thaum.Blue Stuff: 75 Thaumaturge - 47 Staff Expert - 64 Elemental expert - 51 Elfborn - 10 Spell Erosion - 23 Master at arms
Green Stuff: 75 Tenacity - 75 Arcanist - 44 Warlord - 76 Tumbling
Red Stuff: 19 Quick Recovery - 64 Hardy - 64 Elemental Defender - 51 Thick Skinned - 72 Ironclad
You're right, my mistake. I didn't see the entire part devoted to CP, just the second part which makes it look a lot more like just randomly throwing in CP where they look good. He could fit most of the information from the entire post into a single superstar screenshot
Ironically, a Superstar Screenshot would take up more space than the CP allocation there. Also, the entire part where he's explaining his allocation instead of just saying, "here, take this, it's t3h best," doesn't really fit on a screenshot.
? You can literally fit an entire build on a superstar screenshot. Gear, CP, stats, skill bars, everything...
Lightspeedflashb14_ESO wrote: »Has this set up been tried on a magdk with the 50% boost to heavys?
I'm currently working on a mag dk heavy attack build that I'll publish within the next week or so. Ir deals (ofc) less dps than a light attack build, but is pretty relaxing to play.
kylewwefan wrote: »
With how laggy the game is now, I see it working well because the game can’t handle light attack rotations for a poo in its current form.
Grianasteri wrote: »I have been running a variation of the "Easy Sorc" for several years. I rarely copy a build/rotation completely, I adapt it to suit my play style and preference.......