anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

Obviously, many people don't like the harder/longer content. And that's their right. Or better said, our right, since I belong to those people.
The question is rather, why do you do random dungeons ? There's nothing interesting in the rewards (besides, maybe, transmutation crystals ?). CPs ? They're dead anyway. The max level is frozen and the system will be changed. With the diminishing returns, your character will be more or less equal with 600 or 800 CPs. Just stop doing random dungeons. That's my suggestion. Considering the time people spend around tricking the random finder, they can gather the same XP elsewhere...

RDF gives 100k XP, with the enlightned bonus it is 400k, enough for 1 CP per day. Well if the system is going away like you are saying, perhaps, I can see it differently upon next expansion release.

idk wrote: »

Have a good day as I am tired of such a pointless discussion. I will let you have the last word and I pretty much know it will be much of the same as you have already. Cheers.

Thanks.

Now to summarize my thoughts:
On World of Warcraft you can select a few Dungeons or Battlegrounds to skip in dungeon/battleground finder.
I see no problem in not have it here as well.

Actually, @Grandesdar you were the only one to give a good excuse. Yeah it would be 50/50 it would be bad for people who farm DLC. They will keep forcing subscribers to do the DLC dungeons. Meaning that not everyone likes to do them.

Offtopic:
I find funny when there is always people who stand for the status quo.

- What about flying mounts? NO!
- What about diving deep sea? NO!
- What about having options? HELL NO!

I'm done.

you could just do specific dungeons and click all the ones you want to be possible. i dont really see why you would threaten to unsub for this.

I am a woman.

But yeah, I will stick subscribed because the pros beat the cons. I vented my unsatisfaction though.

The more I think about this, the more I am convinced that a third option with an additional reward for DLC vs 'classic' dungeons would help significantly.

Simply allowing the option to exclude DLC whenever you want would result in not enough people queuing for DLC.

However, if there was an incentive that was JUST enough to entice people who have enough time, it would help divide the line between people who HATE DLCs always and people who sometimes don't mind them but sometimes just don't have the time.

I am often in the latter category. I frequently queue for DLCs or randoms where I know I might get a DLC. My play time is specific (~7am - noon EST, on Sat and Sun). At 7am, I'll do any DLC. At 11:30am, I want a classic dungeon.

I have seen lots of groups try way too long to try and complete HM just for the extra key. Get the reward right, and we'll have like-minded individuals pursuing DLCs on a more regular basis, and none of us will have to drop group and face a queue penalty just for being honest about the time we have available to play.

There are so many cool things they could do. % of chance for a perfect roe. An extra key. % of change for an apex radiant mount. (PvP folks would not be happy, but how cool would it be to give a chance to win those mounts from an in game activity?) Gems. Introduction of a new currency, like transmute crystals, that upon collection of 50 or 100 or even 500 allows you to choose the weapon of your choice at the end of a dungeon. (I have farmed SP and CoA I way too long for the Jorvuld's lightning staff and the BSW fire staff.) Gold jewelry which can be broken down for mats. Gold jewelry mats. A chance for the same furniture patterns you can get when doing crafting writs. A chance for rarer motifs.

Really there are so many possibilities. I would not view any of those as being unfair, but rather as adding an additional way to obtain something that helps maintain incentive to learn and participate in the more difficult dungeons.

Want a quicker run? No problem, but the reward is less.

Also I think, while CP points aren't everything, it might be a good idea to raise eligibility slightly for number of CP points you must have to participate in a DLC dungeon. While some people with low CP can make the grade, usually those folks aren't experienced enough to enjoy the dungeon, which just discourages them from ever trying again before they really are ready to even participate for the first time. The level could even be different for accounts with a higher maximum character with completed achievement vs not.