Adernath wrote: »

Checking forums after a long working day, starting downloading the new expansion and browsing through the world-first post on the ESO forum.

Wouldn't it be more of a competition if the trial is downloadable a month before, and then officially opened during live?

I will certainly not participate in this by playing day and night (I just don't care personally because I got other things to do) but for those who have no fast internet connection or are actually working seriously during the day - and do care - would certainly appreciate a more controlled start of the 'race'.

Then all the bugs uncovered in PTS would be release into live and set back the numerous guilds who will still be progressing this trial for months to come by that much longer. There's nothing wrong with doing the trial on PTS, people just use it as an excuse because they can't invest as much time in the game as others or simply aren't as skilled as others. Neither of which there is anything wrong with.

Congratz UA.

Adernath wrote: »

Checking forums after a long working day, starting downloading the new expansion and browsing through the world-first post on the ESO forum.

Wouldn't it be more of a competition if the trial is downloadable a month before, and then officially opened during live?

I will certainly not participate in this by playing day and night (I just don't care personally because I got other things to do) but for those who have no fast internet connection or are actually working seriously during the day - and do care - would certainly appreciate a more controlled start of the 'race'.

My point exactly. They got to practice on PTS so had a huge head start. Some peeps haven't even installed the game yet, other countries cant buy it like Asia .
Xbox peeps get it later



It's like playing tennis with your shadow😜

It's great you cleared it kudos to you but you cannot call it a world first. Also PTS shouldnt count since it's meant to be a testing server not a flexing server.

Afaik, Hodor and the other guilds do quite a bit of bug testing. The leaderboard guilds can have their world firsts. This is a game after all.

Gratz!

I just think it’s great. No matter the group. Even with practice on the PTS. I know I’ll never have that level of skill or find the time with a dedicated group to practice but I sure can have great appreciation for those accomplishing these achievements. And I love the videos showing the great coordination. Team effort all the way.

DjMuscleboy02 wrote: »

Adernath wrote: »

Checking forums after a long working day, starting downloading the new expansion and browsing through the world-first post on the ESO forum.

Wouldn't it be more of a competition if the trial is downloadable a month before, and then officially opened during live?

I will certainly not participate in this by playing day and night (I just don't care personally because I got other things to do) but for those who have no fast internet connection or are actually working seriously during the day - and do care - would certainly appreciate a more controlled start of the 'race'.

Then all the bugs uncovered in PTS would be release into live and set back the numerous guilds who will still be progressing this trial for months to come by that much longer. There's nothing wrong with doing the trial on PTS, people just use it as an excuse because they can't invest as much time in the game as others or simply aren't as skilled as others. Neither of which there is anything wrong with.

Congratz UA.

What I said is certainly doable with sufficient internal testing.

It would be really interesting to see the real time and effort a group requires to learn the mechanics and finally beat the trial, from a well-defined start date, for example on a weekend, where everyone is on equal terms and no one knows what to expect.

Adernath wrote: »

DjMuscleboy02 wrote: »

Adernath wrote: »

Checking forums after a long working day, starting downloading the new expansion and browsing through the world-first post on the ESO forum.

Wouldn't it be more of a competition if the trial is downloadable a month before, and then officially opened during live?

I will certainly not participate in this by playing day and night (I just don't care personally because I got other things to do) but for those who have no fast internet connection or are actually working seriously during the day - and do care - would certainly appreciate a more controlled start of the 'race'.

Then all the bugs uncovered in PTS would be release into live and set back the numerous guilds who will still be progressing this trial for months to come by that much longer. There's nothing wrong with doing the trial on PTS, people just use it as an excuse because they can't invest as much time in the game as others or simply aren't as skilled as others. Neither of which there is anything wrong with.

Congratz UA.

What I said is certainly doable with sufficient internal testing.

It would be really interesting to see the real time and effort a group requires to learn the mechanics and finally beat the trial, from a well-defined start date, for example on a weekend, where everyone is on equal terms and no one knows what to expect.

Pretty much this. That's actually what other games like Destiny or FF14 do. They test their stuff internally, don't put the raids on the test servers and release them simultaneously on all platforms, usually after a grace period to allow all players to catch up to changes first.

So, while quite and achievement, the title "first world clear" is pretty much hollow in ESO.

First of all Gz on the first HM clear.

Adernath wrote: »

What I said is certainly doable with sufficient internal testing.

It would be really interesting to see the real time and effort a group requires to learn the mechanics and finally beat the trial, from a well-defined start date, for example on a weekend, where everyone is on equal terms and no one knows what to expect.

Trust me you dont want ZOS internal testing to be the only Thing that Looks for Bugs pre live release. The amount of absolutely broken Bugs going live would be way too high, they didnt even care to check if you get damaged by the Dragons fire/ice breath if you take a step to the side and out of the cone for example.
Everyone is on equal Terms on the pts, well everyone that has Access to it but console due to having a later release date is screwed out of Worlds first anyway, they all have the same starting date and they all dont know what to expect when they go in first and they all have to learn (and find!) the mechanics first.
People are actually even more so on equal Terms in the pts since everyone can make an absolute BIS character and Change it at will if something better is discovered while exploring the Trial for the first times, on live People with more gear and a bigger Variety of classes would have an Advantage.

Turelus wrote: »

Congrats HOD... Wait what?

My thoughts exactly, when I saw the thread and the poster I was like "wait, Baumlaus is in Hodor now??" :

Adernath wrote: »

What I said is certainly doable with sufficient internal testing.

Yeah, the problem is: ZOS have no resources for proper testing, and new trials are suffering from multiple bugs, broken mechanics and lack of understanding from the devs of how real pve group are gonna progress through encounters.

Adernath wrote: »

It would be really interesting to see the real time and effort a group requires to learn the mechanics and finally beat the trial, from a well-defined start date, for example on a weekend, where everyone is on equal terms and no one knows what to expect.

It's already happening as soon as PTS starts. Best guilds dive in and start from the scratch. More of it, EU guilds additionally suffer with lag as PTS is in NA.

Regardless of if you feel it's deserved or not, it's technically the first time it's cleared on an official release, so a world's first xD
And as we can see there is real competition.

Congrats to UA!

To the moaners: Anyone complaining about people getting to practice on PTS can return to their salt filled lives. No-one stops you from going on the PTS and doing it.

Congrats! And don't mind the salt mine from people (including disgraced community ambassador) that actually benefit from all the PTS testing you guys do. The PTS is available to everyone after all.