The maintenance is Monday morning - Monday afternoon for me in the EU. Since I am your common employed guy who does daily shifts, there couldn't be a better time for the servers to go down for me.
runkorkoeb17_ESO wrote: »runkorkoeb17_ESO wrote: »runkorkoeb17_ESO wrote: »runkorkoeb17_ESO wrote: »runkorkoeb17_ESO wrote: »So in roughly 15 hours 39 minutes the next chapter releases. Prime time playing for us. Then the servers go down for 6 hours?! So they come back up at midnight for us. What gives?? Can't do patch maintenance on a Sunday? So we can play? Nope too hard basket.
So... you want them to take the servers down in prime time for both EU AND NA instead...
I'm sorry that it's prime time for you in Australia, but to ask them to have them down in two MUCH larger playerbases during their prime time is not a reasonable request.
EU here. Stil dont find it normal servers to be down on release date.
Huh? They have to update the game on the servers... it's always going to be down for a period of time on release date.
The content can be easily released for download earlier
Wont be the first game who do that. Buy ye, we have what we have.
MMOs don't work that way. This isn't a single player game.
Rly ? Because it work perfectly in other mmos i play.
As i said, we have what we have.
perhaps if they weren't doing class changes, skill changes, balance changes, etc.. It's not just new content they release, they are adjusting the current content. You can't have people playing different versions with different rules...
They can still allow the download earlier and then to apply it when decide.
Download and aplpy are 2 diferent things you know
Then you'd have to have both the original version plus the large patch on your machine until the patch was activated and over-wrote much of the original, and people would be complaining about the space requirements. Besides, offering the download to players is only one part of the downtime, mostly it's about implementing the update on all the individual servers that make up the overall megaserver structure in both regions. SOE once counted up the number of individual pieces of hardware that had to be modified as part of an update for EQ and the figure was staggering and served to show how impressive it was that they got it done in the time it took!
There's never an easy solution for the players, someone always get hit whichever way you do it. What matters is that developers organise it the best way for them, that way it minimises the chance of it going wrong.
BY update i dont mean the entire updated game mate....
Dont tell me how it works because i use it more than 5y.
You donload it early. And then when is ready it autoapply. Without need to w8 X hours to download it after release. And without fe..g ZoS servers because everyone download it at the same time....
runkorkoeb17_ESO wrote: »runkorkoeb17_ESO wrote: »runkorkoeb17_ESO wrote: »runkorkoeb17_ESO wrote: »runkorkoeb17_ESO wrote: »So in roughly 15 hours 39 minutes the next chapter releases. Prime time playing for us. Then the servers go down for 6 hours?! So they come back up at midnight for us. What gives?? Can't do patch maintenance on a Sunday? So we can play? Nope too hard basket.
So... you want them to take the servers down in prime time for both EU AND NA instead...
I'm sorry that it's prime time for you in Australia, but to ask them to have them down in two MUCH larger playerbases during their prime time is not a reasonable request.
EU here. Stil dont find it normal servers to be down on release date.
Huh? They have to update the game on the servers... it's always going to be down for a period of time on release date.
The content can be easily released for download earlier
Wont be the first game who do that. Buy ye, we have what we have.
MMOs don't work that way. This isn't a single player game.
Rly ? Because it work perfectly in other mmos i play.
As i said, we have what we have.
perhaps if they weren't doing class changes, skill changes, balance changes, etc.. It's not just new content they release, they are adjusting the current content. You can't have people playing different versions with different rules...
They can still allow the download earlier and then to apply it when decide.
Download and aplpy are 2 diferent things you know
Then you'd have to have both the original version plus the large patch on your machine until the patch was activated and over-wrote much of the original, and people would be complaining about the space requirements. Besides, offering the download to players is only one part of the downtime, mostly it's about implementing the update on all the individual servers that make up the overall megaserver structure in both regions. SOE once counted up the number of individual pieces of hardware that had to be modified as part of an update for EQ and the figure was staggering and served to show how impressive it was that they got it done in the time it took!
There's never an easy solution for the players, someone always get hit whichever way you do it. What matters is that developers organise it the best way for them, that way it minimises the chance of it going wrong.
BY update i dont mean the entire updated game mate....
Dont tell me how it works because i use it more than 5y.
You donload it early. And then when is ready it autoapply. Without need to w8 X hours to download it after release. And without fe..g ZoS servers because everyone download it at the same time....
Ah yes, and every game uses the same type of server architecture where it can be done the same way.
Don’t be daft... if zos would be able to shorten the maintenance and offer an early download, wouldn’t you think they would do that ? They could change their systems maybe, but what would the cost be in terms of development effort and time... probably not worth it
runkorkoeb17_ESO wrote: »runkorkoeb17_ESO wrote: »runkorkoeb17_ESO wrote: »runkorkoeb17_ESO wrote: »runkorkoeb17_ESO wrote: »runkorkoeb17_ESO wrote: »So in roughly 15 hours 39 minutes the next chapter releases. Prime time playing for us. Then the servers go down for 6 hours?! So they come back up at midnight for us. What gives?? Can't do patch maintenance on a Sunday? So we can play? Nope too hard basket.
So... you want them to take the servers down in prime time for both EU AND NA instead...
I'm sorry that it's prime time for you in Australia, but to ask them to have them down in two MUCH larger playerbases during their prime time is not a reasonable request.
EU here. Stil dont find it normal servers to be down on release date.
Huh? They have to update the game on the servers... it's always going to be down for a period of time on release date.
The content can be easily released for download earlier
Wont be the first game who do that. Buy ye, we have what we have.
MMOs don't work that way. This isn't a single player game.
Rly ? Because it work perfectly in other mmos i play.
As i said, we have what we have.
perhaps if they weren't doing class changes, skill changes, balance changes, etc.. It's not just new content they release, they are adjusting the current content. You can't have people playing different versions with different rules...
They can still allow the download earlier and then to apply it when decide.
Download and aplpy are 2 diferent things you know
Then you'd have to have both the original version plus the large patch on your machine until the patch was activated and over-wrote much of the original, and people would be complaining about the space requirements. Besides, offering the download to players is only one part of the downtime, mostly it's about implementing the update on all the individual servers that make up the overall megaserver structure in both regions. SOE once counted up the number of individual pieces of hardware that had to be modified as part of an update for EQ and the figure was staggering and served to show how impressive it was that they got it done in the time it took!
There's never an easy solution for the players, someone always get hit whichever way you do it. What matters is that developers organise it the best way for them, that way it minimises the chance of it going wrong.
BY update i dont mean the entire updated game mate....
Dont tell me how it works because i use it more than 5y.
You donload it early. And then when is ready it autoapply. Without need to w8 X hours to download it after release. And without fe..g ZoS servers because everyone download it at the same time....
Ah yes, and every game uses the same type of server architecture where it can be done the same way.
Don’t be daft... if zos would be able to shorten the maintenance and offer an early download, wouldn’t you think they would do that ? They could change their systems maybe, but what would the cost be in terms of development effort and time... probably not worth it
Daft?
Where you see me wanting zos to shorten the meintenance? All i said is that will be better if we are able to predownload patch to be rdy to apply it right after meintenance. So we wont need to w8 extra hour or so.
Do you rly think they will write patch changes tomorrow ? Patch content is ready for download.
Daft..............
Ppl predownload patches and even epxansions from years.
runkorkoeb17_ESO wrote: »runkorkoeb17_ESO wrote: »runkorkoeb17_ESO wrote: »runkorkoeb17_ESO wrote: »runkorkoeb17_ESO wrote: »runkorkoeb17_ESO wrote: »So in roughly 15 hours 39 minutes the next chapter releases. Prime time playing for us. Then the servers go down for 6 hours?! So they come back up at midnight for us. What gives?? Can't do patch maintenance on a Sunday? So we can play? Nope too hard basket.
So... you want them to take the servers down in prime time for both EU AND NA instead...
I'm sorry that it's prime time for you in Australia, but to ask them to have them down in two MUCH larger playerbases during their prime time is not a reasonable request.
EU here. Stil dont find it normal servers to be down on release date.
Huh? They have to update the game on the servers... it's always going to be down for a period of time on release date.
The content can be easily released for download earlier
Wont be the first game who do that. Buy ye, we have what we have.
MMOs don't work that way. This isn't a single player game.
Rly ? Because it work perfectly in other mmos i play.
As i said, we have what we have.
perhaps if they weren't doing class changes, skill changes, balance changes, etc.. It's not just new content they release, they are adjusting the current content. You can't have people playing different versions with different rules...
They can still allow the download earlier and then to apply it when decide.
Download and aplpy are 2 diferent things you know
Then you'd have to have both the original version plus the large patch on your machine until the patch was activated and over-wrote much of the original, and people would be complaining about the space requirements. Besides, offering the download to players is only one part of the downtime, mostly it's about implementing the update on all the individual servers that make up the overall megaserver structure in both regions. SOE once counted up the number of individual pieces of hardware that had to be modified as part of an update for EQ and the figure was staggering and served to show how impressive it was that they got it done in the time it took!
There's never an easy solution for the players, someone always get hit whichever way you do it. What matters is that developers organise it the best way for them, that way it minimises the chance of it going wrong.
BY update i dont mean the entire updated game mate....
Dont tell me how it works because i use it more than 5y.
You donload it early. And then when is ready it autoapply. Without need to w8 X hours to download it after release. And without fe..g ZoS servers because everyone download it at the same time....
Ah yes, and every game uses the same type of server architecture where it can be done the same way.
Don’t be daft... if zos would be able to shorten the maintenance and offer an early download, wouldn’t you think they would do that ? They could change their systems maybe, but what would the cost be in terms of development effort and time... probably not worth it
Daft?
Where you see me wanting zos to shorten the meintenance? All i said is that will be better if we are able to predownload patch to be rdy to apply it right after meintenance. So we wont need to w8 extra hour or so.
Do you rly think they will write patch changes tomorrow ? Patch content is ready for download.
Daft..............
Ppl predownload patches and even epxansions from years.
I usually have the patch downloaded and installed before the servers come up... They do like 8 hours of maintenance... patch comes out like 2 hours before they're done.
I'm at work at that time so its an good time for meNotaDaedraWorshipper wrote: »The EU server's maintenance is usually done at the same time as the NA one. Which is not that good of a time for Europeans.
runkorkoeb17_ESO wrote: »
Btw, not even close, a handful of *** do not make up the majority. Not wise to generalize either. I mean, we could use the EU /Aussie generalization tropes that are aimed to make EU / Aussie look horrid and idiotic as well. But, lets not fall into those traps.
So in roughly 15 hours 39 minutes the next chapter releases. Prime time playing for us. Then the servers go down for 6 hours?! So they come back up at midnight for us. What gives?? Can't do patch maintenance on a Sunday? So we can play? Nope too hard basket.
runkorkoeb17_ESO wrote: »runkorkoeb17_ESO wrote: »runkorkoeb17_ESO wrote: »runkorkoeb17_ESO wrote: »So in roughly 15 hours 39 minutes the next chapter releases. Prime time playing for us. Then the servers go down for 6 hours?! So they come back up at midnight for us. What gives?? Can't do patch maintenance on a Sunday? So we can play? Nope too hard basket.
So... you want them to take the servers down in prime time for both EU AND NA instead...
I'm sorry that it's prime time for you in Australia, but to ask them to have them down in two MUCH larger playerbases during their prime time is not a reasonable request.
EU here. Stil dont find it normal servers to be down on release date.
Huh? They have to update the game on the servers... it's always going to be down for a period of time on release date.
The content can be easily released for download earlier
Wont be the first game who do that. Buy ye, we have what we have.
MMOs don't work that way. This isn't a single player game.
Rly ? Because it work perfectly in other mmos i play.
As i said, we have what we have.
perhaps if they weren't doing class changes, skill changes, balance changes, etc.. It's not just new content they release, they are adjusting the current content. You can't have people playing different versions with different rules...
They can still allow the download earlier and then to apply it when decide.
Download and aplpy are 2 diferent things you know
Then you'd have to have both the original version plus the large patch on your machine until the patch was activated and over-wrote much of the original, and people would be complaining about the space requirements. Besides, offering the download to players is only one part of the downtime, mostly it's about implementing the update on all the individual servers that make up the overall megaserver structure in both regions. SOE once counted up the number of individual pieces of hardware that had to be modified as part of an update for EQ and the figure was staggering and served to show how impressive it was that they got it done in the time it took!
There's never an easy solution for the players, someone always get hit whichever way you do it. What matters is that developers organise it the best way for them, that way it minimises the chance of it going wrong.
runkorkoeb17_ESO wrote: »runkorkoeb17_ESO wrote: »runkorkoeb17_ESO wrote: »runkorkoeb17_ESO wrote: »runkorkoeb17_ESO wrote: »So in roughly 15 hours 39 minutes the next chapter releases. Prime time playing for us. Then the servers go down for 6 hours?! So they come back up at midnight for us. What gives?? Can't do patch maintenance on a Sunday? So we can play? Nope too hard basket.
So... you want them to take the servers down in prime time for both EU AND NA instead...
I'm sorry that it's prime time for you in Australia, but to ask them to have them down in two MUCH larger playerbases during their prime time is not a reasonable request.
EU here. Stil dont find it normal servers to be down on release date.
Huh? They have to update the game on the servers... it's always going to be down for a period of time on release date.
The content can be easily released for download earlier
Wont be the first game who do that. Buy ye, we have what we have.
MMOs don't work that way. This isn't a single player game.
Rly ? Because it work perfectly in other mmos i play.
As i said, we have what we have.
perhaps if they weren't doing class changes, skill changes, balance changes, etc.. It's not just new content they release, they are adjusting the current content. You can't have people playing different versions with different rules...
They can still allow the download earlier and then to apply it when decide.
Download and aplpy are 2 diferent things you know
Then you'd have to have both the original version plus the large patch on your machine until the patch was activated and over-wrote much of the original, and people would be complaining about the space requirements. Besides, offering the download to players is only one part of the downtime, mostly it's about implementing the update on all the individual servers that make up the overall megaserver structure in both regions. SOE once counted up the number of individual pieces of hardware that had to be modified as part of an update for EQ and the figure was staggering and served to show how impressive it was that they got it done in the time it took!
There's never an easy solution for the players, someone always get hit whichever way you do it. What matters is that developers organise it the best way for them, that way it minimises the chance of it going wrong.
BY update i dont mean the entire updated game mate....
Dont tell me how it works because i use it more than 5y.
You donload it early. And then when is ready it autoapply. Without need to w8 X hours to download it after release. And without fe..g ZoS servers because everyone download it at the same time....
runkorkoeb17_ESO wrote: »runkorkoeb17_ESO wrote: »So in roughly 15 hours 39 minutes the next chapter releases. Prime time playing for us. Then the servers go down for 6 hours?! So they come back up at midnight for us. What gives?? Can't do patch maintenance on a Sunday? So we can play? Nope too hard basket.
So... you want them to take the servers down in prime time for both EU AND NA instead...
I'm sorry that it's prime time for you in Australia, but to ask them to have them down in two MUCH larger playerbases during their prime time is not a reasonable request.
EU here. Stil dont find it normal servers to be down on release date.
Huh? They have to update the game on the servers... it's always going to be down for a period of time on release date.
The content can be easily released for download earlier
Wont be the first game who do that. Buy ye, we have what we have.
MMOs don't work that way. This isn't a single player game.
Never played wow or guild wars? Server comes down for maybe 5 mins on expac release then goes back up
runkorkoeb17_ESO wrote: »
There is nothing false about the statement that Zenimax Online Studios is an American Company, headquartered in the United States.
The time they picked probably inconveniences the least amount of people. It's offline when a majority of people in NA/EU are at work. Yes, it stretches into some of early EU prime time, cuts off some of NA prime time the night before... They start the maintenance at 4:00 AM local time... they're making a sacrifice themselves to try and inconvenience the least amount of people. Good thing they don't start it at "normal" start time of 8:00 or 9:00 because it's "better" for them... then EU would lose their entire prime time on maintenance day...
Androconium wrote: »runkorkoeb17_ESO wrote: »
There is nothing false about the statement that Zenimax Online Studios is an American Company, headquartered in the United States.
The time they picked probably inconveniences the least amount of people. It's offline when a majority of people in NA/EU are at work. Yes, it stretches into some of early EU prime time, cuts off some of NA prime time the night before... They start the maintenance at 4:00 AM local time... they're making a sacrifice themselves to try and inconvenience the least amount of people. Good thing they don't start it at "normal" start time of 8:00 or 9:00 because it's "better" for them... then EU would lose their entire prime time on maintenance day...
Well, the company that sold the game to me was Zenimax Europe, located in London.
Regardless of where the game is made, or where it is purchased; it is sold in countries around the world as an online service.
For countries outside of the US to complain that the service is not available at a time that suits them (the players) is an entirely valid point. If it's a US-made game for US residents, it should not be sold to anyone outside of the US, if the same level of availability and support is not available to players outside the US.
But there's always the concept of repeat business to consider, based on your own experiences.
runkorkoeb17_ESO wrote: »runkorkoeb17_ESO wrote: »So in roughly 15 hours 39 minutes the next chapter releases. Prime time playing for us. Then the servers go down for 6 hours?! So they come back up at midnight for us. What gives?? Can't do patch maintenance on a Sunday? So we can play? Nope too hard basket.
So... you want them to take the servers down in prime time for both EU AND NA instead...
I'm sorry that it's prime time for you in Australia, but to ask them to have them down in two MUCH larger playerbases during their prime time is not a reasonable request.
EU here. Stil dont find it normal servers to be down on release date.
Huh? They have to update the game on the servers... it's always going to be down for a period of time on release date.
The content can be easily released for download earlier
Wont be the first game who do that. Buy ye, we have what we have.
MMOs don't work that way. This isn't a single player game.
Never played wow or guild wars? Server comes down for maybe 5 mins on expac release then goes back up
How dreamy 😍
So in roughly 15 hours 39 minutes the next chapter releases. Prime time playing for us. Then the servers go down for 6 hours?! So they come back up at midnight for us. What gives?? Can't do patch maintenance on a Sunday? So we can play? Nope too hard basket.
So tired of these "Oh Aussies are *** again" posts. You know what, deal with it. Not everyone lives in the same timezone. Also it's not ZoS's fault that your ping is high. It's because Australia's internet connection sucks.
I live in Asia, I don't complain about my ping being 300+ all the time, nor do I complain about how Elsweyr is going to go live at midnight my time. You don't see Asians complain any of those. So stop your whinning and deal with it.